A possiblity will take a look and see if it matches .On the 1901 census robert is down as John LEES.We don't know why as he is Robert on all other census. Many thks Jean -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Truffles46@aol.com Sent: 13 January 2007 23:41 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Holywood .Birmingham Warks Jean, On the 1861 census there is a Robert Lees b 1852 Aston visiting a John b1791 and Sarah b1797 Lees. They were lodgers to a Heath household in Kingswinford. This was the nearest possible i could find. Jackie _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kenneth. Elusive marriage? No problem. From Free BMD Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page  Marriages Mar 1874   (>99%) Belfield  Mary Ann    Birmingham  6d 7   CAPEWELL  Samuel David    Birmingham  6d 7   Harris  Charles    Birmingham  6d 7   Pritchett  Sarah Ann    Birmingham  6d 7 Do you have census details for this family? HTH Anne On 14 Jan 2007, at 15:48, OnLaneside@aol.com wrote: > I am researching a HARRIS family in Harborne, Birmingham. I would be > delighted to know if anyone knows of any connections. Also, > suggestions to obtaining > the elusive marriage certificate from .circa 1875 > > Charles Harris b 1847 Harborne (believed married Mary Julia Pritchett > b 1847 > but despite extensive searches I have been unable find the marriage > details). > Three children Charles b 1875, Mary Eliz b 1879 and.......... > > Francis Henry Harris born 1876 Harborne married 1899 to Jane Maria > Fisher. > Five children - Francis b 1901, Olive, Florence, Gladys and Mary > Elizabeth b > 1914 West Bromwich. > > Thank you. > > Kenneth > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Karen, There is a mailing list devoted to the Boer War, where you might find answers to your questions > BOER-WAR-L > lists9 > > Topic: A list discussing genealogy and the Boer War. > > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at > BOER-WAR-admin@rootsweb.com. > • Subscribing. Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should > work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual > instructions: to join BOER-WAR-L, send mail to > BOER-WAR-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the > message subject and body. To join BOER-WAR-D, do the same thing with > BOER-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com. HTH Anne On 14 Jan 2007, at 16:33, <angeloleto@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Looking for information about Birmingham Residents that served in the > Boer War in South Africa specifically from about 1883-1890, under a > Col. Carrington. I am desparately trying to find a list of names for > his regiment and I am having no luck. The name John "Jack" DAY is the > relative I am looking for. He was injured in 1886, and may have > returned home. He also may have received a pension. Is there a list > of servicemen, or a pension list available? > > > Thanks for looking! > Karen > > _

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAllister" <mcallisterfamily@btopenworld.com> To: "Wendy Archer" <wharcher@cvd.co.uk> Cc: "bham list" <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Robert Howorth Dear List, I would like to publically apologise for my outburst concerning this subject line. I realise I shouldn't have centred my anger towards the List, but to the person concerned, which will not happen now. Regards, Michael McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Archer" <wharcher@cvd.co.uk> To: "Michael McAllister" <mcallisterfamily@btopenworld.com> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Robert Howorth

Listers - A reminder that, just as if the list were a physical gathering of Birmingham listers hosted in my home, I expect civility amongst us all. Discussion of problems relating to family history within the Birmingham area are quite acceptable, and the fun of a list is that we come together to try to provide answers. Hopefully, in so doing, listers become aware of resources of which they, in turn, might make first-hand use. These may be free, subscription, pay-as-you-go, or purchased resources. It is within the spirit of RootsWeb lists for requests to be made for lookups in such resources, and for listers to contribute therefrom, provided so doing does not break any terms conditions. Not everyone has, or is aware of, all resources which might be of use to solve a particular problem. And, finally, unfavourable comments about one lister's private behaviour with regard to another have no place on this list. Best wishes for everyone's research in 2007 ! Wendy B'ham List Admin

Looking for information about Birmingham Residents that served in the Boer War in South Africa specifically from about 1883-1890, under a Col. Carrington. I am desparately trying to find a list of names for his regiment and I am having no luck. The name John "Jack" DAY is the relative I am looking for. He was injured in 1886, and may have returned home. He also may have received a pension. Is there a list of servicemen, or a pension list available? Thanks for looking! Karen

Joe Robert and Betty's Marriage located on FreeBMD Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- CLEGG Betty Rochdale 21 407 HOWORTH Robert Rochdale 21 407 Have located the Robert & Betty in 1851 at - ( but no children ) 1851 England Census about Robert Howorth Name: Robert Howorth Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Betty Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Heap Ecclesiastical parish: Heywood St Luke County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: Birtle ED, institution, or vessel: 3c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 40 Will send image ( direct ,if you cannot locate on Ancestry !! ) but have my doubts this is the Robert you are seeking. Helen New Zealand

Kia Ora Helen Thanks for at least satisfying my curiousity. It will be up to Joe to check Ashton Under Lyne for baptisms or better still get the birth certs to prove it is his family and not cousins having babies with the same names(!!!) It now makes sense as to why they were there for the births of at least some of the children. Happy New Year! See you apopo! Marlene Helen Verrall wrote: > Joe > > Have located the HOWORTH Family in 1841 - will send Page Image direct > Were living in Ashton Under Lyne > > Name: Robert Howorth > Age: 25 > Estimated birth year: abt 1816 > Household: View other family members > Gender: Male > Where born: Lancashire, England > > Civil parish: Ashton Under Lyne > Hundred: Salford > County/Island: Lancashire > Country: England > > Street address: > > Occupation: View image > > Source information: HO107/532/14 > Registration district: Ashton and Oldham > Sub-registration district: Ashton Town > ED, institution, or vessel: 21 > Folio: 15 > Page: 22 (click to see others on page) > Line number: 20 > > Helen > New Zealand > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marlene > Shipman > Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2007 7:58 p.m. > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Robert Howorth > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am researching a HARRIS family in Harborne, Birmingham. I would be delighted to know if anyone knows of any connections. Also, suggestions to obtaining the elusive marriage certificate from .circa 1875 Charles Harris b 1847 Harborne (believed married Mary Julia Pritchett b 1847 but despite extensive searches I have been unable find the marriage details). Three children Charles b 1875, Mary Eliz b 1879 and.......... Francis Henry Harris born 1876 Harborne married 1899 to Jane Maria Fisher. Five children - Francis b 1901, Olive, Florence, Gladys and Mary Elizabeth b 1914 West Bromwich. Thank you. Kenneth

Joe Have located the HOWORTH Family in 1841 - will send Page Image direct Were living in Ashton Under Lyne Name: Robert Howorth Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Ashton Under Lyne Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Source information: HO107/532/14 Registration district: Ashton and Oldham Sub-registration district: Ashton Town ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 15 Page: 22 (click to see others on page) Line number: 20 Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Shipman Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2007 7:58 p.m. To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Robert Howorth

Hi again If you have the marriage details why not let us know , his father with occupation may enable us to find him in earlier census. Did he have a middle name? who were the witnesses? Let us know, it may be whats needed to locate him. Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Thanks yes i have this and further on .but just cannot trace him before > his > marriage. > > jean <snip> > Hi Jean > > Any use ? > > Marriages Mar 1873 > FLOWERS Dinah Aston 6d 397 > LEES Robert Aston 6d 397

I am amazed this person is still begging for requests to do his family history for 'free'. Mr Joe Howorth contacted me last year to do paid research and failed to honour his agreement! Have a nice day Mr Howorth, you have finally got what you wanted - someone else to do your research for free! Regards, Michael McAllister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Robert Howorth > > Joe > > Robert and Betty's Marriage located on FreeBMD > > Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > CLEGG Betty Rochdale 21 407 > HOWORTH Robert Rochdale 21 407 > > > > Have located the Robert & Betty in 1851 at - > ( but no children ) > > > 1851 England Census > about Robert Howorth > Name: Robert Howorth > Age: 34 > Estimated birth year: abt 1817 > Relation: Head > Spouse's name: Betty > Gender: Male > Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England > > Civil parish: Heap > Ecclesiastical parish: Heywood St Luke > County/Island: Lancashire > Country: England > > Street address: > > Occupation: > > Condition as to marriage: > > Disability: View image > > Registration district: Bury > Sub-registration district: Birtle > ED, institution, or vessel: 3c > Neighbors: View others on page > Household schedule number: 40 > > Will send image ( direct ,if you cannot locate on Ancestry !! ) but have > my doubts this is the Robert you are seeking. > > Helen > New Zealand > > >

Hello James Sorry I can't help with info on St Chads. I have a Charlotte LINES born 1845 Birmingham father Charles LINES mother Charlotte formerly LAURENCE. Charlotte married Charles PARTRIDGE at St Phillips in 1864 she is listed as LYONS on her marriage certificate. I thought it worth a mention. Regards Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "james curley" <jamescurley77@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: [B'ham] RC records Hello list. I am keen to find out more about my ancestors (CURLEY, DRISCOLL, LINES/LOYNS, HENNIGAN/HANIGAN), in the Roman Catholic records 1840-1910. They seem to have worshipped at one time or another at most of the Birmingham RC churches, especially St.Peters and St.Chads. I do not have time to visit Birminham myself. Does anyone on the list know if the archivists at St.Chads for instance undertake research for a fee? Or, are there any other published or searchable sources of these registers? Many thanks for the help, James _____________________________________________ Dr James Curley www.eboracensis.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Kenneth William Bibb <kbibb@bigpond.com> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 8 January, 2007 10:03:02 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin Keith , You should be able to find family through the films you can hire from the LDS library, St George chr 1823-1875 mar 1830-1875 St Martin chr 1555-1875 mar 1554-1879 bts chr1718-1831 St Phillips chr1715-1863 mar 1715-1875 Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin Hi Keith I do realise it's a bit of a long way, hence the comment at the bottom of my e-mail. BMSGH have a lot of resources and you might find they have what you want. I believe St Philips to be very short on the IGI, I have not been able to find many of my family at all, either on St Philips or St Georges IGI, and they lived in the vicinity for close on 60 years, I believe them to be clearly unfinished. I did find, however, that one of the films (circa 1812) was unavailable, so perhaps that is the reason. I can find very few on St Georges, too, but have insufficient time to check that for the time being due to family and other commitments. Yes, the weather was good last summer, and now although it is winter, it's not like it used to be, we never freeze these days, which is good news for those of us who don't like the cold. It's been around 10-12º which is not too cold at all. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > Hi Pauline, > > A trip to Birmingham would be nice, although not at present being your > winter. However a rather expensive way of finding details for a few > burials and perhaps the odd marriage that the IGI does not have. > > The degree of missing data on the IGI became apparent to me in 1993 > when a cousin in Nottingham went through the registers there and came > back with 40% more entries for Flinders from St. Marys, Nottingham. > Alas I don't have any cousins near Birmingham who are able nowadays to > go and do research. Age and infirmity has caught up with them. > > I spent 5 weeks in England August/September last year and was > delighted with the weather that was turned on for me. In contrast the > summer in this part of NZ has been the coldest on record since 1928, > and has seldom been above 16 degrees. Global warming has bypassed us > and the iceage commith. > > > Regards > > Keith Flinders > Wellington, NZ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > Hello Keith > > > > Records for St Philip and St Martin are available in Birmingham > > Library. > > > > I know from my own research that all are not on the IGI, it is very > > incomplete. BMSGH have some fiche available, but I am not sure > > exactly how > > many have been produced. > > > > Google BMSGH and you can purchase from the site, as NZ is a bit of a > > long > > way to travel!! > > > > Pauline > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> > > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:23 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > > >> Birmingham is a new area of research for me, hence this question. > >> > >> Do indexes exist for baptisms, marriages and burial at Birmingham > >> St, > >> Martin and St. Philip for the period 1790 to 1837 ? > >> > >> The IGI has some marriages and some baptisms, but I suspect not all > >> for the above period I cite. But of course it does not have > >> burials. > >> > >> The surname I am interested in currently is WYON, a rather uncommon > >> one. > >> > >> Any guidance re the above will be much appreciated. > >> > >> Keith Wellington, NZ > >> > >> > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > > > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks yes i have this and further on .but just cannot trace him before his marriage. jean -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 13 January 2007 22:33 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Holywood .Birmingham Warks Hi Jean Any use ? Marriages Mar 1873 FLOWERS Dinah Aston 6d 397 LEES Robert Aston 6d 397 Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Admin for OVINGTON - HAYLOCK - SEYMOUR Lists > Can someone please tell me did the area of HOLYWOOD excist in 1850??. > > I am searching for Robert LEES who said on census 1881 0nwards that this > is > his place of birth. > but cannot find any trace of him . > > jean _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jean Any use ? Marriages Mar 1873 FLOWERS Dinah Aston 6d 397 LEES Robert Aston 6d 397 Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Admin for OVINGTON - HAYLOCK - SEYMOUR Lists > Can someone please tell me did the area of HOLYWOOD excist in 1850??. > > I am searching for Robert LEES who said on census 1881 0nwards that this > is > his place of birth. > but cannot find any trace of him . > > jean

Hi Jean Hollywood existed in 1881 and long before but it was and is in Worcestershire. Just south of the Maypole which is now in Birmingham Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Lees" <jean.lees@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "Warwick list" <WARWICK@rootsweb.com>; "Birm List" <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:40 PM Subject: [B'ham] Holywood .Birmingham Warks > Can someone please tell me did the area of HOLYWOOD excist in 1850??. > > I am searching for Robert LEES who said on census 1881 0nwards that this > is > his place of birth. > but cannot find any trace of him . > > jean > > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Can someone please tell me did the area of HOLYWOOD excist in 1850??. I am searching for Robert LEES who said on census 1881 0nwards that this is his place of birth. but cannot find any trace of him . jean

Hi Jill Thanks Jill !! That's what I didn't have some sound info! I needed something concrete to go on! 1. There was someone on this site chasing ELKINGTONs sometime ago _ I know because I put her in touch with The Elkingtons here in New Zealand - so beware Joe, you might have a Kiwi connection and have to support the All Blacks! 2.Am I right in assuming from the censii below that Robert may have died 1861-1871? Using HOW * there are only 3 choices for Robert's death on Free BMD in B'ham. None of which look likely. However there's a Robert HOWARTH death Sept 1861 8d/289 in Ashton Under Lyne which given the info below might be significant. 3.Sarah Ann HOWORTH's birth appears to be March 1841 Ashton Under Lyne 20/157 (On the boundaries of Cheshire & Lancashire) 4.Robert HOWORTH's birth appears to be registered June 1843 B'ham 16/250 5.JOHN HOWORTH's birth appears to be registered correctly Sept 1845 B'ham 16/283. 6.DANIEL HOWARTH's birth appears to be June 1847 Ashton Under Lyne 20/156. 7.MARY HOWORTH 's birth appears Sept 1849 Wolverhampton 17/* On the whole the family appears to have spelt the name HOWORTH consistently so there maybe a mistranscription. IS it possible for someone to search Cheshire, Lancashire & particularly Wolverhampton in 1851 for Joe as I suspect they may have backtracked to familiar stomping grounds and then after Robert's death headed back to B'ham? Searching for Daniel .(with no surname or HOW * , aged 4, might do it! it's the most "unusual" name. Warning : there are other Howorths/ Howarths around the areas! Joe the only way you can be sure of the above is to ask for the certs - specify the Parents Names! Best of luck Marlene Jill Simon wrote: > Hi > I was trying to help Joe too. It's nice to know no one else can find him > either, I feel so much better now :) > This is what I did find; > > 1861 Census > Cottage Street, Birmingham Warwickshire > Robert Howarth abt 1815 Bury, Lancashire, England Head, Stonemason > Betty Howarth abt 1811 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Wife > *Sarah Ann Howarth abt 1842 Birmingham Daughter > Robert Howarth abt 1844 Birmingham Son > John Howarth abt 1846 Birmingham Son > *Daniel Howarth abt 1847 Birmingham Son > Mary Howarth abt 1850 Wolverhampton > > Marriages Dec 1868 > Elkington George Birmingham 6d 160 > HOWARD Sarah Ann Birmingham 6d 160 > > 1871 Census > 2 Hall Street, Birmingham Warwickshire > George Elkington abt 1844 Yardley, Worcestershire, England Head > *Sarah Ann Elkington abt 1842 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Wife > Robert Timothy Elkington abt 1869 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son > Mary Grace Elkington abt 1871 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter > Betty Howorth abt 1811 Halifax, Yorkshire, England Grandmother, Grandma > John Howorth abt 1846 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Brother-in-law > Robert Howorth abt 1844 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Brother-in-law > > 1871 Census > Birmingham Warwickshire > *Daniel Howorth abt 1847 Bham, Warwickshire, England Head > Amelia Howorth abt 1848 Bham, Warwickshire, England Wife > Amelia Howorth abt 1870 Bham, Warwickshire, England Daughter > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Jean, On the 1861 census there is a Robert Lees b 1852 Aston visiting a John b1791 and Sarah b1797 Lees. They were lodgers to a Heath household in Kingswinford. This was the nearest possible i could find. Jackie

Jean, Hollywood is on the borders of a few area's and is known both as Hollywood and Wythall. Back in 1800's it would have been under Kings Norton Worcestershire. However close by is Shirley and Solihull which might have had parts under Warwickshire. Jackie