Hello, I'm searching for parents for Ann Brookes who was born in 1777 and married Simon Onions in 1794 in St Martins. Jan

A Carter may own his waggon and could run his own businesss which would probably be more lucrative than working in a factory/workshop. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <MomNat@aol.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Occupations- Carters boy and ammunition maker >A carter drove a cart or wagon. A carter's boy would be his helper. I have >a > carter who was previously a gold beater, metal roller. I imagine he was > injured and became a carter. > Kathryne > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Anne, for the suggestion. I had a look through the site you suggested last night but so far haven't been able to come up with any thing on William Livingstone or his uncle Christopher in Birmingham in 1870's. Will keep looking though. Once again Thank you Regards, Chris

Hi List I have just found out that my great aunt Lydia GOODES's maiden name was NIBLETT, and that she married Great Uncle Fred in 1927 in Birmingham, having been born in Birmingham in 1905. Does anyone have any NIBLETTs lurking in their line anywhere? Many thanks -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Hello: Could someone please do a look-up for me. Great-Grandmother: Margaret Phillips - b1831 I have a copy of the marriage certificate: October 9th, 1864 - Parish of Bishop Ryder, Birmingham Margaret Phillips (33) - father Richard Phillips William Williams (21) - father John Williams Witnesses: William Wilkinson Matilda S.A. Betts Thank you Isobel Wells

Hello Gerry I believe Kynock's in Witton was the largest munitions factory in Europe, later to become ICI. My aunt who lived in Bevington Road Aston worked there for many years, before, during and after the war. I am not sure when it started though. Regards Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Edwards" <jedwac342@rogers.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:50 PM Subject: [B'ham] Occupations- Carters boy and ammunition maker > Hello Lidsters: > > Can anyone tell me what a carters boy would be. > Also I have a great grandmother who worked as an ammunition maker in the > Aston area. She lived at 8 Ct.Tower Road. > Was there a particular large plant in that area in 1891? Or did the > ammunition industry involve a lot of small plants? > > Gerry Edwards > Canada > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you any information aobout the dates of birth of the children? Velda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: [B'ham] Joseph Spencer > Can anyone find Joseph Spencer, born 1800, in Brum. His wife was Mary Ann > and children included Joseph, MaryAnn, Maria, George, Edwin, Thomas and > John. > I haven't found him in any census!! > Jan > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Julie, I found at 10 Crt Aston Rd Aston Joseph Bunting 52 Head scalebeam maker Wednesbury Staffs Mary Bunting 52 Wife Walsall Staffs Abel Bunting 22 Son Gun Percussioner Birmingham Warks Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie insull" <jinsull789@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham-d@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:41 AM Subject: [B'ham] 1851 lookup please hi list can someone have a look for a ABEL BUNTING aged abt 18 ,born birmingham please would be most grateful julie --------------------------------- All New Yahoo! Mail - Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julie Will send image off list. Cheers Peter in Oz -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of julie insull Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2007 7:41 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham-d@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] 1851 lookup please hi list can someone have a look for a ABEL BUNTING aged abt 18 ,born birmingham please would be most grateful julie --------------------------------- All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.1/640 - Release Date: 19/01/2007 4:46 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.1/640 - Release Date: 19/01/2007 4:46 PM

Hi Jan, I found this: My ancestor Mary Ann Onions was born in 1803 to James and Martha Onions. She married Joseph Spencer, Builder, in about 1820 [09 NOV 1820]. Her son Joseph Onions Spencer was a bellows manufacturer. I am seeking any information about the history of the Onions family and the Iron Foundries they owned in the 18th-19th centuries. Thanks! -- Doug Hawkes e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > Can anyone find Joseph Spencer, born 1800, in Brum. His wife was Mary Ann > and children included Joseph, MaryAnn, Maria, George, Edwin, Thomas and > John. > I haven't found him in any census!! > Jan > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 20/01/2007 16:22:29 GMT Standard Time, neil.hearn3@bigpond.com writes: Can anyone find Joseph Spencer, born 1800, in Brum. His wife was Mary Ann and children included Joseph, MaryAnn, Maria, George, Edwin, Thomas and John. I haven't found him in any census!! Jan Hi Jan No SPENCERs found on the census, however on the IGI I have found: Joseph SPENCER chr. 31 JAN 1800 St Martin, B'ham to Benjamin & Betty Joseph SPENCER (m) Mary Ann ONIONS, St Martin, B'ham on 09 NOV 1820. Joseph Onions SPENCER born 31 JAN 1822. Is this the family? Rgds Anthony

Don't Forget ANN BROOKES Female Christening: 11 FEB 1777 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England Parents: Father: CHARLES BROOKES Mother: SARAH -- Doug Hawkes e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > There's an ANN BROOKES christened 26 DEC 1777 at Holy Trinity, Coventry. > Parents: William Brookes & Elizabeth > > also: > > ANN BROOKES christened 26 DEC 1777 at St John, Deritend & Bordesley. > Parents: Abraham & Elizabeth > > Yes - 26 DEC 1777 for both! > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello again Gerry, The previously mentioned book contains a number of relevant pictures, mostly taken in the early part of the 20th century. Another photo depicts Small Heath and Sparkbrook railway station with a caption telling us "It was opened in 1863 by the Great Western Railway to serve the new BSA works and the growing population in both districts." Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Edwards" <jedwac342@rogers.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: [B'ham] Occupations- Carters boy and ammunition maker > Hello Lidsters: > > Can anyone tell me what a carters boy would be. > Also I have a great grandmother who worked as an ammunition maker in the > Aston area. She lived at 8 Ct.Tower Road. > Was there a particular large plant in that area in 1891? Or did the > ammunition industry involve a lot of small plants? > > Gerry Edwards > Canada > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jan, I have a George Brookes b ca 1785 in my file who married Ann Millward Hawkes in 1821. I also could not find his parents but I did find another Brookes from the same time: THOMAS BROOKES Male ------------- Christening: 16 SEP 1794 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England ------------- Parents: Father: ARTHUR BROOKES [Possible parents of George Brookes] Mother: ANN I admit 1777 is a bit of a long time before but possible, cheers, Doug. -- Doug Hawkes e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > Hello, > I'm searching for parents for Ann Brookes who was born in 1777 > and married Simon Onions in 1794 in St Martins. > Jan > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

G'day Gerry, A Carter was someone who had a cart which would be used to transport goods. A Carters Boy would be his assistant...usually of a very young age. There were huge ammunitions factories in Brum ..in particular the BSA plant (British Small Arms) , a fortress like building which stretched from the railway line to the canal and expanded up to Golden Hillock Road. Terraced houses were built for key workers in Armoury Road and the Spark Brook divided the buildings from the Proof House shooting ranges. (See more in Small Heath and Sparkbrook (Images of England ) by Margaret D Green Jan in sunny Queensland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Edwards" <jedwac342@rogers.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: [B'ham] Occupations- Carters boy and ammunition maker > Hello Lidsters: > > Can anyone tell me what a carters boy would be. > Also I have a great grandmother who worked as an ammunition maker in the > Aston area. She lived at 8 Ct.Tower Road. > Was there a particular large plant in that area in 1891? Or did the > ammunition industry involve a lot of small plants? > > Gerry Edwards > Canada > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When was Abel Bunting aged 18 please? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie insull" <jinsull789@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham-d@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:41 AM Subject: [B'ham] 1851 lookup please hi list can someone have a look for a ABEL BUNTING aged abt 18 ,born birmingham please would be most grateful julie --------------------------------- All New Yahoo! Mail - Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There's an ANN BROOKES christened 26 DEC 1777 at Holy Trinity, Coventry. Parents: William Brookes & Elizabeth also: ANN BROOKES christened 26 DEC 1777 at St John, Deritend & Bordesley. Parents: Abraham & Elizabeth Yes - 26 DEC 1777 for both!

>From thed 1851 census I found an Abel BUNTING, transcribed as "Alice" but definitely Abel, aged 22 born Birmingham, living in Aston with parents Joseph and Mary. Joseph was born in WEdnesbury Please contact me off list if you want further info Good hunting Christine West Yorkshire ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie insull" <jinsull789@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham-d@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: [B'ham] 1851 lookup please > hi list > can someone have a look for a ABEL BUNTING aged abt 18 ,born birmingham > please > would be most grateful > julie > > > --------------------------------- > All New Yahoo! Mail - Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard > protect you. >

In a message dated 19/01/2007 23:05:38 GMT Standard Time, scorpio916@mac.com writes: Hi Anthony Do you have any further information re: Joseph CLARKE ( b: 1815 Edgbaston) ie: source of your info? place of marriage ect.? or does anyone know what Parish Edgbaston may be in? I have a large file on CLARKE family, Happy hunting, George Hi George Thanks for the reply The only info I have is: Joseph CLARKE b.1815, d. before 1871, married (24 Mar 1833 in Edgbaston) Amelia GOODFELLOW (b.2 Oct 1812 B'ham, died 1885). Their offspring: Joseph (b.1839), Mary Ann (b.1839), Edwin (b.1841), Henry (b.1852), Samuel (b.1856). All children were born in Aston. All dates are approximate, unless in full. Are these part of your file? Best rgds Anthony

A carter drove a cart or wagon. A carter's boy would be his helper. I have a carter who was previously a gold beater, metal roller. I imagine he was injured and became a carter. Kathryne