Thanks James, My Brookes interest lies with George Brook(e)s who married Ann Millward Hawkes in 1821. I believe his parents may have been Seth Brooks and Maria. Ann was widowed in 1840 and always spelled her name as Brookes. Cheers, Doug. -- Doug Hawkes e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > Hi Douglas, > I have always assumed that Mary died before 1861 as James is listed as a > widower in the Census. > Whilst checking through my research I found the search I did at St > Philip's for my James and found this which was of no use to me at the > time, baptism 11 FEb 1777 Ann daughter of Charles and Sarah BROOKES. > Hope this helps. > James > > Douglas Hawkes <dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca> wrote: > Hi James, > > Was Mary alive when James died? If so, have you looked at this > certificate? > > Deaths Dec 1868 > Brookes Mary 66 Birmingham 6d 36 > > -- > Doug Hawkes > e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > >> G'day James, >> I'm just beginning my research of the Brookes line but >> will keep your ancestor in mind. He may even have been a brother to our >> Ann, >> born in 1777. >> Cheers, >> Jan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "JAMES BROOKES" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Ann Brookes >> >> >>> Good morning, >>> I'm searching for James BROOKES (1776-1866) was born in Birmingham >>> according to his military records and died in Birmingham, was married >>> twice, second wife, who was Mary BROWN (1801-) in 1824 also in >>> Birmingham >>> If you should come across him in your searches could you let me know? >>> Regards >>> James >>> >>> Neil Hearn wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I'm searching for parents for Ann Brookes who was born in 1777 and >>> married >>> Simon Onions in 1794 in St Martins. >>> Jan >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>> http://www.bham.de/ >>> >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>> http://www.bham.de/ >>> >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks so much, Nivard, for your help in guiding me towards my goal of tracking down some elusive ancestors. Your advice is written very clearly and I'm sure will be of value to many others as well as myself Jan in sunny Queensland

Hello List I wonder if anyone can help me with information from a trade directory around 1920. I am looking for information on where the DAVIES coal business was. I know the family lived at Aragon House, Tudor Hill in Sutton Coldfield. The house has long gone but there is a road called Aragon Drive where it was. I don't think the business would have been there, although I am not sure. I know the family and the business moved in 1926 to Llandudno in North Wales. I think the business started about 1908. I would be grateful for any help. Regards Wendy Partridge

Sorry Nancy they only cover the London area and a few surrounding counties. Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Curry" <nancurry@msn.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Launch of British phone books 1880-1984 - Ancestry > Robert, Sometime while you're searching the phone directory, I wonder if > you could find a Alfred or Frederick Pritchard, he was living in Erdington > in 1939. I usually go to our public library to get Ancestry, but they > don't have the phone directory. Only if you have time/inclination. > Nancy > > > > > Robert Deloyde > > -- > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit > http://www.messagelabs.com/email<http://www.messagelabs.com/email> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit > http://www.messagelabs.com/email<http://www.messagelabscom/email> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

On 22 Jan, Neil Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: > G'day Chris, I have a Sarah Niblett (19) in the 1881 census who was a > servant to Richard Guthrie Haskew(32) and his wife who lived at 35 > Penshurst Rd, London. Sarah was born in Lower Stone, Gloucestershire. That's interesting! I know there's a lot of Nibletts from Glos, but I haven't managed to trace back to where Lydia's forebears came from as she doesn't appear in any censuses available at the present. I shall keep the information on file. Many thanks. > Jan > in sunny Qld > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <famhist@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:09 AM > Subject: [B'ham] NIBLETT > > Hi List > > > > I have just found out that my great aunt Lydia GOODES's maiden name was > > NIBLETT, and that she married Great Uncle Fred in 1927 in Birmingham, > > having been born in Birmingham in 1905. Does anyone have any NIBLETTs > > lurking in their line anywhere? > > > > Many thanks > > > > -- > > Chris Pampling > > researching: > > > > BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, > > MAHER > > all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day > > PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present > > VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present > > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Hi James, Was Mary alive when James died? If so, have you looked at this certificate? Deaths Dec 1868 Brookes Mary 66 Birmingham 6d 36 -- Doug Hawkes e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > G'day James, > I'm just beginning my research of the Brookes line but > will keep your ancestor in mind. He may even have been a brother to our > Ann, > born in 1777. > Cheers, > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JAMES BROOKES" <james.e.brookes@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:03 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Ann Brookes > > >> Good morning, >> I'm searching for James BROOKES (1776-1866) was born in Birmingham >> according to his military records and died in Birmingham, was married >> twice, second wife, who was Mary BROWN (1801-) in 1824 also in >> Birmingham >> If you should come across him in your searches could you let me know? >> Regards >> James >> >> Neil Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> I'm searching for parents for Ann Brookes who was born in 1777 and >> married >> Simon Onions in 1794 in St Martins. >> Jan >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning, I'm searching for James BROOKES (1776-1866) was born in Birmingham according to his military records and died in Birmingham, was married twice, second wife, who was Mary BROWN (1801-) in 1824 also in Birmingham If you should come across him in your searches could you let me know? Regards James Neil Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: Hello, I'm searching for parents for Ann Brookes who was born in 1777 and married Simon Onions in 1794 in St Martins. Jan _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually BSA stands for Birmingham Small Arms. They produced everything from ammunition to guns. Also bikes, and later cars, tanks, etc. Regards Mike Hutchinson

Robert, Sometime while you're searching the phone directory, I wonder if you could find a Alfred or Frederick Pritchard, he was living in Erdington in 1939. I usually go to our public library to get Ancestry, but they don't have the phone directory. Only if you have time/inclination. Nancy > Robert Deloyde -- ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email<http://www.messagelabs.com/email> ______________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email<http://www.messagelabscom/email> ______________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello: Just cannot thank Barb enough for her kindness in helping me locate my ancestors in the Census." She has been a wonderful help to me and I sure appreciate this. I now know who my Great-Grandparents and their siblings were. Very exciting!! Thank you Isobel

hi list just a big thankyou to all those who did a lookup for me, greatly appreciated best wishes julie --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes.

Hello. I am tracing Naylors from Coventry. One part of the family moved to Aston in Birmingham around 1896. This was Charles J Naylor- b Coventry 1866 initialy involved in the watch trade -and his family. His wife Susan -b 1864 in Coventry- and 4 children. These were... Ethel 1893 Coventry, Grace 1895 Coventry, Winifred 1897 Birmingham and Charles J (jnr) 1900 Birmingham. Does anybody have these in their family or have any connections to them and theirs. In 1901 they lived at 2 Derby Terrace Aston. regards, Peter Lincoln ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Roger, Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to look. Much appreciated. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Goodger" <roger.goodger@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Cocoa / Chocolate Packer - SELLY OAK - Healey Road > > Hi Rob > > Although I could not find mention of your Ada, Norah and Alfred FELLOWS, > these marriages were in > The Bounville Works Magazines I have. > > regards > Roger > > Magazine 1, Vol IV, November 1905 - October 1906 "The Bounville Works > Magazine" > Marriage: > BILLINGSLEY - FELLOWS > On October 12th at St. Mary's Church, Selly Oak, Arthur C. Billingsley to > Agnes Fellows. (This marriage refers to October 1905 as it is in Magazine > No. 1.at the start of the Volume IV.). > > (In the 1901 Census she could be the daughter of Nathaniel & Jane > Fellows - > RG13/2713, folio 91, page 12). > ------------------------------------------------ > Magazine 12, Vol VI, October 1908 "The Bounville Works Magazine":- > Marriage: > FELLOWS - CASELEY > On September 1st at St. Mary's Church, Selly Oak, George Henry Fellows to > Annie Caseley > ------------------------------------------------ > Magazine 14, Vol VIII, December 1910 "The Bounville Works Magazine":- > Marriage: > JONES - FELLOWES > On October 22nd at Birmingham, Edwin Jones to Ella Fellowes > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Rob Although I could not find mention of your Ada, Norah and Alfred FELLOWS, these marriages were in The Bounville Works Magazines I have. regards Roger Magazine 1, Vol IV, November 1905 - October 1906 "The Bounville Works Magazine" Marriage: BILLINGSLEY - FELLOWS On October 12th at St. Mary's Church, Selly Oak, Arthur C. Billingsley to Agnes Fellows. (This marriage refers to October 1905 as it is in Magazine No. 1.at the start of the Volume IV.). (In the 1901 Census she could be the daughter of Nathaniel & Jane Fellows - RG13/2713, folio 91, page 12). ------------------------------------------------ Magazine 12, Vol VI, October 1908 "The Bounville Works Magazine":- Marriage: FELLOWS - CASELEY On September 1st at St. Mary's Church, Selly Oak, George Henry Fellows to Annie Caseley ------------------------------------------------ Magazine 14, Vol VIII, December 1910 "The Bounville Works Magazine":- Marriage: JONES - FELLOWES On October 22nd at Birmingham, Edwin Jones to Ella Fellowes ------------------------------------------------

I am trying to get a fairly accurate picture of what my aunt would have earned over the years from around 1935 to 1971 working full time at piece work rates at Fawcetts in Brum Have googled unsuccessfully Anyone on the list with a relative who might be able to give some details - does the firm still exist? Might they be contactable by phone or email? I realise piece work means fast people earned more than others but still it would give me some idea thanks Ros

Hello again, Thanks so much for all the assistance! Joseph Spencer's birth date came from the IGI as did those of MaryAnn and Joseph (Jnr). Maria's christening was 15/03/1828 at Bordesley according to the IGI. The other children came up in the 1841 census but their father was not present at that time.I've been told that they rounded the ages down to the nearest five years in 1841. I was not aware I could obtain a birth certificate for someone born in 1800. How can I find reference numbers for that period, please? What I have (from IGI) is Joseph b 31 Jan 1822 St Martins, Birmingham MaryAnn b. 25 November, 1825 St Martins Maria ch. 15 March 1828. Hope this may help and thanks again. Jan

Hi Jan As Jean has already said, civil registration started in mid 1837 so no civil registration certificates before then. (There were a few certificates made out earlier from odd Parishes but they are very few and far between and only contain the details found in the PR anyway as a rule) The entry for Joseph Onions SPENCER is from an extraction program and as such you can order a copy of the Parish Register page from the LDS for not a lot, that is if you cannot visit an LDS FHS to order in the film, then view and print them off. It will not contain the detail found on the later certificates though. Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Admin for OVINGTON - HAYLOCK - SEYMOUR Lists > Hello again, > Thanks so much for all the assistance! > Joseph Spencer's birth date came from the IGI as did those of MaryAnn and > Joseph (Jnr). Maria's christening was 15/03/1828 at Bordesley according to > the IGI. The other children came up in the 1841 census but their father > was not present at that time.I've been told that they rounded the ages > down to the nearest five years in 1841. > I was not aware I could obtain a birth certificate for someone born in > 1800. How can I find reference numbers for that period, please? > What I have (from IGI) is > Joseph b 31 Jan 1822 St Martins, Birmingham > MaryAnn b. 25 November, 1825 St Martins > Maria ch. 15 March 1828. > > Hope this may help and thanks again. > > Jan

Hope you have an easier task with your HARRIS family than I've been having with mine. I've got them mis-transcribed as HARRISS, HANISS, HARRES, and even HAMP (explain that one!). Unfortunately, none of mine are from Harborne. Good Hunting, Allan Halstead

No birth certs available till after 1837. jean -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Neil Hearn Sent: 20 January 2007 20:59 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] Spencer, Joseph Hello again, Thanks so much for all the assistance! Joseph Spencer's birth date came from the IGI as did those of MaryAnn and Joseph (Jnr). Maria's christening was 15/03/1828 at Bordesley according to the IGI. The other children came up in the 1841 census but their father was not present at that time.I've been told that they rounded the ages down to the nearest five years in 1841. I was not aware I could obtain a birth certificate for someone born in 1800. How can I find reference numbers for that period, please? What I have (from IGI) is Joseph b 31 Jan 1822 St Martins, Birmingham MaryAnn b. 25 November, 1825 St Martins Maria ch. 15 March 1828. Hope this may help and thanks again. Jan _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone find Joseph Spencer, born 1800, in Brum. His wife was Mary Ann and children included Joseph, MaryAnn, Maria, George, Edwin, Thomas and John. I haven't found him in any census!! Jan