Try this site a good place to find out most things 'Brummie'. A free safe site and friendly helpful people, all volunteers. http://forums.birminghamhistory.co.uk

there is a Luce Rd (I've just been scrolling through multimap! off Guy Avenue Jane SRILEY145@aol.com wrote: To all you lovely Listers who have come up with suggestions to try variants of Lussu - I will do this. As you have said, it may well be a matter of accents/dialects. Many thanks to you all. Sheila _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Funny you should say that....I was writing out LUSSU in big loopy writing this morning.....and it looks like Russell to me! The big loopy 'R' looks very much like an 'L' David Morgan wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jim sword" <jim_sword@hotmail.com> > > >>Can I just throw an idea into this problem instead of looking for this >>street try thinking of someone with a strong Birmingham/Wolverhampton >>/black >> >> > >Thinking about it, my money's on Russell Street, close to the centre of >Wolverhampton (near the ring present day road) and extant in the 1851. > >

Have you tried names like Tussin for example? I bet if you had asked all of those 5 people to write Lussu you'd get 5 very different styles> the " u" at the end might be "in " for example. The L could be an S. The double ss could be ff' Is there a DUFFIN St in the area? A Lasso Street? A Sussex Street? Try looking at from the extreme right or extreme left you might see it in a whole new Light! Take it to your Doctor or Chemist or someone used to deciphering scribble!!! Cheers Marlene SRILEY145@aol.com wrote: > The marriage was 1888. A relation has the certificate but 5 of us looked at > it last week and it was clearly Lussu. Never mind - one of those little > mysteries which will probably be solved when we least expect it to be. Sheila > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Peter I was replying to Jane, Where in Australia do you obtain access to the National Probate Calendars, please? The Birmingham will I would like to see was from 1869. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <nich3046@tpg.com.au> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:37 AM Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke Mike Fisher in Droitwich (I though I had eye problems for a moment) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter J Richardson" <pjrich_uk@hotmail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Fisher Rootsweb Lists" <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:36 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > > >> Hi >> >> This is a 1869 will and I take it was proved in the Birmingham Probate >> Office and a copy of it is in a bound volume in the library. > > The e-mail that I replied to said 1849. > > The probate of wills seems to have centralised after 1858. They do have a > card index at Lichfield of the > post-1858 wills of the area, but not the originals. > > Regards > Peter >> >> Mike Fisher in Droitwich >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter J Richardson" <pjrich_uk@hotmail.com> >> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke >> >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <nich3046@tpg.com.au> >>> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:37 PM >>> Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke >>> >>> >>>> I was hoping someone could enlighten me as to the whereabouts of >>>> Birmingham wills? I have obtained the death certificate of my ancestor >>>> William Hyatt DARKE (other family members used the spelling "Hyett") >>>> which confirms that he, a chemist, died on 20 February 1849 at 335 >>>> Coventery Rd., Aston. >>>> I have access here in Australia to the National Probate Calendars on >>>> microfiche, but these only start in 1858. >>>> Is there an index anywhere to earlier wills? Where would the documents >>>> themselves be found? >>> >>> Modern day Birmingham spreads across more than one diocise. I would >>> guess >>> that Aston was administered at >>> Lichfield, and those wills are likely to be at the Lichfield Records >>> Office: >>> http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/archives/. I went up there last year and >>> found an original will relating to my >>> BUTCHARD family who were living in the St Phillips area of Birmingham. >>> They would perhaps be willing to do some >>> sort of search for you (though they may need to make a charge unless you >>> can pin down the name and dates >>> required very accurately. Contact can be made by e-mail via >>> lichfield.record.office@staffordshire.gov.uk. >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>> http://www.bham.de/ >>> >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All >> New Yahoo! Mail. >> http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fisher Rootsweb Lists" <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > Hi > > This is a 1869 will and I take it was proved in the Birmingham Probate > Office and a copy of it is in a bound volume in the library. The e-mail that I replied to said 1849. The probate of wills seems to have centralised after 1858. They do have a card index at Lichfield of the post-1858 wills of the area, but not the originals. Regards Peter > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter J Richardson" <pjrich_uk@hotmail.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:18 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <nich3046@tpg.com.au> >> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:37 PM >> Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke >> >> >>> I was hoping someone could enlighten me as to the whereabouts of >>> Birmingham wills? I have obtained the death certificate of my ancestor >>> William Hyatt DARKE (other family members used the spelling "Hyett") >>> which confirms that he, a chemist, died on 20 February 1849 at 335 >>> Coventery Rd., Aston. >>> I have access here in Australia to the National Probate Calendars on >>> microfiche, but these only start in 1858. >>> Is there an index anywhere to earlier wills? Where would the documents >>> themselves be found? >> >> Modern day Birmingham spreads across more than one diocise. I would guess >> that Aston was administered at >> Lichfield, and those wills are likely to be at the Lichfield Records >> Office: >> http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/archives/. I went up there last year and >> found an original will relating to my >> BUTCHARD family who were living in the St Phillips area of Birmingham. >> They would perhaps be willing to do some >> sort of search for you (though they may need to make a charge unless you >> can pin down the name and dates >> required very accurately. Contact can be made by e-mail via >> lichfield.record.office@staffordshire.gov.uk. >> >> Regards >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello list Can I just throw an idea into this problem instead of looking for this street try thinking of someone with a strong Birmingham/Wolverhampton /black country accent, someone working class and probably illiterate giving this information to a registrar who is possibly middle class and speaking with a more "cultured" accent it could then be maybe Lucy St Lewis St. Think a little wider than the written word. all the best in the search Jim Sword >From: eng-warks-birmingham-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >Subject: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM Digest, Vol 2, Issue 102 >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:31:53 -0700 > >Warwickshire Surname Interest List - check for matches and add your own >interests: >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/warwick.html >___________________________________________ >Today's Topics: > > 1. Lussu Street (SRILEY145@aol.com) > 2. Villers Family (groco1) > 3. Re: Lussu Street (Jean Lees) > 4. Re: Lussu Street (famhist@dsl.pipex.com) > 5. Re: Businesses and Surnames (Neil Hearn) > 6. Re: Businesses and Surnames (Nivard Ovington) >From: SRILEY145@aol.com >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >Subject: [B'ham] Lussu Street >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:00:31 EST >The marriage was 1888. A relation has the certificate but 5 of us looked >at >it last week and it was clearly Lussu. Never mind - one of those little >mysteries which will probably be solved when we least expect it to be. >Sheila > >From: "groco1" <groco1@ntlworld.com> >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [B'ham] Villers Family >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:12:03 -0000 >I am looking for Joseph Villers born in Birmingham c 1840. His father was >a Silversmith also named Joseph and born c 1811. His mother Mary had one >more child that I know of Ann Villers born c 1836 and died as a child in >1851. They all came from Birmingham except for Josephs father who came >from Wabry? > >Does anyone else have the same interests? >Regards >Penny >From: "Jean Lees" <jean.lees@blueyonder.co.uk> >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [B'ham] Lussu Street >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:07:12 -0000 >Maybe thats how the person writting the certificate out understood it or >heard it. > >jean > >-----Original Message----- >From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of >SRILEY145@aol.com >Sent: 07 February 2007 17:01 >To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >Subject: [B'ham] Lussu Street > > >The marriage was 1888. A relation has the certificate but 5 of us looked >at >it last week and it was clearly Lussu. Never mind - one of those little >mysteries which will probably be solved when we least expect it to be. >Sheila >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >From: <famhist@dsl.pipex.com> >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [B'ham] Lussu Street >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:08:21 +0000 (GMT) >On 07 Feb, Jean Lees <jean.lees@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Maybe thats how the person writting the certificate out understood it or > > heard it. > >Ahh! Was it LISTER street? (say it with a broad Glaswegian or Irish >accent...) > > > jean > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of > > SRILEY145@aol.com > > Sent: 07 February 2007 17:01 > > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [B'ham] Lussu Street > > > > The marriage was 1888. A relation has the certificate but 5 of us >looked > > at > > it last week and it was clearly Lussu. Never mind - one of those >little > > mysteries which will probably be solved when we least expect it to be. > > Sheila > > _____________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Would anybody be able to do a lookup for me in the parish records for St Martin? I'm looking for a marriage between Abraham MURCOTT and Mary or Catherine (or possibly Mary Catherine!) (possibly RICH or GREVILLE) in Birmingham St Martin on 5 November 1761. I am particularly interested in finding out any details at all about the bride. Some researches have indicated she may have been related to the Earl of Warwick. Thanks in advance - Regards Katy Southampton, UK

To all you lovely Listers who have come up with suggestions to try variants of Lussu - I will do this. As you have said, it may well be a matter of accents/dialects. Many thanks to you all. Sheila

Debbie, I've not seen any responses to your question about the photos and their photographers. I think it's a great idea....people could upload the picture onto a website with the name possibilities, transcribing any of the details from the back which may aid in identification. People accessing the site could perhaps search by name and/or area and hopefully find some more relatives. Maybe photographers could market searchable cds of their archives and offer the photos for sale. Perhaps they already do this. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie" <stilldebbar@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: [B'ham] Businesses and Surnames > Hi everyone, > I have been gone a long time and would like to throw in my surnames again. > Also I would like to ask about businesses. I have many old photos but no > name to go with them - some are the postcard type but others have the > photograghers name on the back. Is there a sight to find these > photograghers, would there be any records of them still? I know this is a > long shot but I figure that's what we deal in all the time. > Also I have an appprenticeship indenture paper of my grandfather (CHARLES > M BOWEN) for 'VERITY'S LIMITED, of Plume Works - Electrical Manufacturers' > in Aston, Warwickshire. I was wondering if I would be able to find a list > of other workers from there. - hopefully a picture of the place. > > Surnames are > > BOWEN, HAINES, ROTHERO, MILTON, MILLWARD, > > Thanks > Debbie > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the wealth of information, Robyn. Do any of the sites mention contain records for deaths/wills/probate in Birmingham, though? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Shaw" <m.rshaw@bigpond.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > Jan, many records can be found for Australia from NSW records. We WERE > all > NSW at first. You can try the site called State Records, NSW This > gives you a name search e.g. last name at first. You can also look for > immigration, probate, insolvency, convicts etc. State Records also has > immigration for other states. > > National Archives, Canberra is another place where records are also able > to > be called up. > > State Library, Qld is also a good site. Gives lots of info and you can do > a > name search there also. > > Commonwealth War Graves Commission, Canberra is another alternative. > > WW2 Nominal Roll is also good. Name search again,. last name is best and > rat through them all. > > best wishes. robyndehood. qld. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > > >> Jane, >> Where in Australia do you obtain access to the National Probate >> Calendars, please? The Birmingham will I would like to see was from 1869. >> Jan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <nich3046@tpg.com.au> >> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:37 AM >> Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke >> >> >>> >>> I was hoping someone could enlighten me as to the whereabouts of >>> Birmingham wills? I have obtained the death certificate of my ancestor >>> William Hyatt DARKE (other family members used the spelling "Hyett") >>> which confirms that he, a chemist, died on 20 February 1849 at 335 >>> Coventery Rd., Aston. >>> I have access here in Australia to the National Probate Calendars on >>> microfiche, but these only start in 1858. >>> Is there an index anywhere to earlier wills? Where would the documents >>> themselves be found? >>> Grateful for any assistance! >>> Jane N. >>> Birmingham families - DARKE, HYETT, BAYLEY, BENTLEY, MOUNTFORD, LATHAM, >>> ROBINS >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>> http://www.bham.de/ >>> >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: >> 4/02/2007 >> 1:30 AM >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could Wabry be Wednesbury? Is it Staffordshire? Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "groco1" <groco1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:12 PM Subject: [B'ham] Villers Family I am looking for Joseph Villers born in Birmingham c 1840. His father was a Silversmith also named Joseph and born c 1811. His mother Mary had one more child that I know of Ann Villers born c 1836 and died as a child in 1851. They all came from Birmingham except for Josephs father who came from Wabry? Does anyone else have the same interests? Regards Penny

I am thinking that it is probably Wolvey, Warwick. Just having looked at the IGI Penny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Villers Family > Could Wabry be Wednesbury? Is it Staffordshire? > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "groco1" <groco1@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:12 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Villers Family > > > I am looking for Joseph Villers born in Birmingham c 1840. His father was > a > Silversmith also named Joseph and born c 1811. His mother Mary had one > more > child that I know of Ann Villers born c 1836 and died as a child in 1851. > They all came from Birmingham except for Josephs father who came from > Wabry? > > Does anyone else have the same interests? > Regards > Penny > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: > 07/02/2007 15:33 > >

Hi This is a 1869 will and I take it was proved in the Birmingham Probate Office and a copy of it is in a bound volume in the library. Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter J Richardson" <pjrich_uk@hotmail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <nich3046@tpg.com.au> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:37 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > > >> I was hoping someone could enlighten me as to the whereabouts of >> Birmingham wills? I have obtained the death certificate of my ancestor >> William Hyatt DARKE (other family members used the spelling "Hyett") >> which confirms that he, a chemist, died on 20 February 1849 at 335 >> Coventery Rd., Aston. >> I have access here in Australia to the National Probate Calendars on >> microfiche, but these only start in 1858. >> Is there an index anywhere to earlier wills? Where would the documents >> themselves be found? > > Modern day Birmingham spreads across more than one diocise. I would guess > that Aston was administered at > Lichfield, and those wills are likely to be at the Lichfield Records > Office: > http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/archives/. I went up there last year and > found an original will relating to my > BUTCHARD family who were living in the St Phillips area of Birmingham. > They would perhaps be willing to do some > sort of search for you (though they may need to make a charge unless you > can pin down the name and dates > required very accurately. Contact can be made by e-mail via > lichfield.record.office@staffordshire.gov.uk. > > Regards > Peter > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

----- Original Message ----- From: <nich3046@tpg.com.au> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:37 PM Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > I was hoping someone could enlighten me as to the whereabouts of > Birmingham wills? I have obtained the death certificate of my ancestor > William Hyatt DARKE (other family members used the spelling "Hyett") > which confirms that he, a chemist, died on 20 February 1849 at 335 > Coventery Rd., Aston. > I have access here in Australia to the National Probate Calendars on > microfiche, but these only start in 1858. > Is there an index anywhere to earlier wills? Where would the documents > themselves be found? Modern day Birmingham spreads across more than one diocise. I would guess that Aston was administered at Lichfield, and those wills are likely to be at the Lichfield Records Office: http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/archives/. I went up there last year and found an original will relating to my BUTCHARD family who were living in the St Phillips area of Birmingham. They would perhaps be willing to do some sort of search for you (though they may need to make a charge unless you can pin down the name and dates required very accurately. Contact can be made by e-mail via lichfield.record.office@staffordshire.gov.uk. Regards Peter

Hi Jan You could ask on the list to see if some kind soul could go up to Birmingham Central Library and look up the entry and photo/copy it or contact the staff their who will do it for a fee. They are in books on open shelves and if I was still working in Birmingham I would have done it for you. http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/birmingham.html http://www.birminghamheritage.org.uk/archive.htm Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: <nich3046@tpg.com.au> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:37 PM Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > > I was hoping someone could enlighten me as to the whereabouts of > Birmingham wills? I have obtained the death certificate of my ancestor > William Hyatt DARKE (other family members used the spelling "Hyett") > which confirms that he, a chemist, died on 20 February 1849 at 335 > Coventery Rd., Aston. > I have access here in Australia to the National Probate Calendars on > microfiche, but these only start in 1858. > Is there an index anywhere to earlier wills? Where would the documents > themselves be found? > Grateful for any assistance! > Jane N. > Birmingham families - DARKE, HYETT, BAYLEY, BENTLEY, MOUNTFORD, LATHAM, > ROBINS > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Hi Jan and Debbie The question of photographers archives comes up from time to time, I have never come across any archives that have survived in a searchable sense. You can often work out the period a photographer was working by checking the census and trade directories but aside of that I doubt theres much mileage in it. Its a sad fact that there are many thousands of photo's out there in peoples possession that will most likely remain anonymous (including my own). For Debbie A google search for "VERITYS LIMITED" finds a few hits, some for Aston which you may find lead you somewhere. There may be works records at the Records Office that would deal with Aston Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > I've not seen any responses to your question about the photos > and their photographers. I think it's a great idea....people could upload > the picture onto a website with the name possibilities, transcribing any > of > the details from the back which may aid in identification. > People accessing the site could perhaps search by name and/or area > and > hopefully find some more relatives. > Maybe photographers could market searchable cds of their archives and > offer the photos for sale. Perhaps they already do this. > > Jan

On 07 Feb, Jean Lees <jean.lees@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Maybe thats how the person writting the certificate out understood it or > heard it. Ahh! Was it LISTER street? (say it with a broad Glaswegian or Irish accent...) > jean > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of > SRILEY145@aol.com > Sent: 07 February 2007 17:01 > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Subject: [B'ham] Lussu Street > The marriage was 1888. A relation has the certificate but 5 of us looked > at > it last week and it was clearly Lussu. Never mind - one of those little > mysteries which will probably be solved when we least expect it to be. > Sheila > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Jan, many records can be found for Australia from NSW records. We WERE all NSW at first. You can try the site called State Records, NSW This gives you a name search e.g. last name at first. You can also look for immigration, probate, insolvency, convicts etc. State Records also has immigration for other states. National Archives, Canberra is another place where records are also able to be called up. State Library, Qld is also a good site. Gives lots of info and you can do a name search there also. Commonwealth War Graves Commission, Canberra is another alternative. WW2 Nominal Roll is also good. Name search again,. last name is best and rat through them all. best wishes. robyndehood. qld. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > Jane, > Where in Australia do you obtain access to the National Probate > Calendars, please? The Birmingham will I would like to see was from 1869. > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <nich3046@tpg.com.au> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:37 AM > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham wills / William Hyatt Darke > > >> >> I was hoping someone could enlighten me as to the whereabouts of >> Birmingham wills? I have obtained the death certificate of my ancestor >> William Hyatt DARKE (other family members used the spelling "Hyett") >> which confirms that he, a chemist, died on 20 February 1849 at 335 >> Coventery Rd., Aston. >> I have access here in Australia to the National Probate Calendars on >> microfiche, but these only start in 1858. >> Is there an index anywhere to earlier wills? Where would the documents >> themselves be found? >> Grateful for any assistance! >> Jane N. >> Birmingham families - DARKE, HYETT, BAYLEY, BENTLEY, MOUNTFORD, LATHAM, >> ROBINS >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 4/02/2007 > 1:30 AM > >

Maybe thats how the person writting the certificate out understood it or heard it. jean -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of SRILEY145@aol.com Sent: 07 February 2007 17:01 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] Lussu Street The marriage was 1888. A relation has the certificate but 5 of us looked at it last week and it was clearly Lussu. Never mind - one of those little mysteries which will probably be solved when we least expect it to be. Sheila _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message