Hi Hilton. Noticed your very unusual surname and thought I should let you know that I have an aquaintance of the same surname, living in Lichfield , Staffordshire. John is researching his FH but I am not sure how far he has got. Perhaps you would have a connection as you are contacting the Birmingham Warks list? If you want to contact him you are welcome to send me your e-mail address and I will pass it on. regards Barbara [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilton Doidge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:43 AM Subject: [B'ham] Warwickshire surname interest list page > Hi Wendy...Can I post my interests on the Warwickshire surname interest > list without subscribing???... > Either of these don't appear to be Rootsweb sites as the name Rootsweb > doesn't occur in the address or the word "request" to subscribe???...Is > this > a new format??? > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/hughw/warwick.html > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/warwick.html > > Hilton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy Archer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:17 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] DEVEY Ann > > >> Hilton - >> >> You could also post your interests on the Warwickshire surname interest >> list - http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/hughw/warwick.html >> >> Wendy >> B'ham List Admin > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 386 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kia Ora Barb What a wonderful gem of information! Does this apply to a particular time frame? Is this the Baptism entry? What info do you need to give? Is it just Births or can you get marriages? ( I prefer the Parish entries!) Thanks for sharing! Marlene New Zealand Barb Stacey wrote: > Hi List, > I've replied to Jan more fully off list, but I thought it might be worth > reminding everyone of this bit of my reply... > > >> I know it's expensive to buy Civil Registration birth certificates, >> > but did you know that if you email the archivist at Birmingham Library at > [email protected] you can get a copy of the original entry in the > parish records for just £1? > Much cheaper than applying for birth certs. < > > Barb Stacey > Solihull > UK > > >> Many thanks to all who assisted us in our search for the elusive Abraham. >> Two really good pointers came - Barb Stacey - the Abraham D you identified >> had the wrong father. But we were really excited at first. Then from >> Marlene Shipton another sighting but this one was too old and also wrong >> father. >> > Finally from Graham Dixon (I really thought we had hit the jackpot when it > read the name!) So many possibles I am answering that separately. > So we are still searching. > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I've just checked with the library and while this is possible, it's £3 and you must know all of the information such as the exact date and place, they won't search within a quarter for example. You can of course go into the library and search yourself with a photocopy costing 40p. Dave Carr On 19 May 2008, at 08:37, Graham Cole wrote: No! Wow, thanks for that information. Chris > I know it's expensive to buy Civil Registration birth certificates, but did you know that if you email the archivist at Birmingham Library at [email protected] you can get a copy of the original entry in the parish records for just £1? Much cheaper than applying for birth certs. < Barb Stacey Solihull UK

Chis - > Thanks for the details of the Warwickshire Surname page. > I immediately sent off a number of emails to the given addresses but they > all came winging back as undeliverable. > Is there something I should be doing before contacting the members > directly? It may be that they're old addresses - which is why postal addresses are useful - in fact, it may also be that by bringing the site to listers' attention some folk may go in & update their details. If you want to let me know off list the addresses that are bouncing - it just may be that I know of newer addresses, and can forward a message from you. But enter your own interests anyway ! Wendy

No! Wow, thanks for that information. Chris >I know it's expensive to buy Civil Registration birth certificates, but did you know that if you email the archivist at Birmingham Library at [email protected] you can get a copy of the original entry in the parish records for just £1? Much cheaper than applying for birth certs. < Barb Stacey Solihull UK

Hi Wendy, Thanks for the details of the Warwickshire Surname page. I immediately sent off a number of emails to the given addresses but they all came winging back as undeliverable. Is there something I should be doing before contacting the members directly? Cheers, Chris

Hilton - > Hi Wendy...Can I post my interests on the Warwickshire surname interest > list without subscribing???... > Either of these don't appear to be Rootsweb sites as the name Rootsweb > doesn't occur in the address or the word "request" to subscribe???...Is > this a new format??? > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/warwick.html While this, Birmingham, list is an email list, run on RootsWeb, the Warwickshire SIL (surname interest list) isn't an *email* list, to which you can subscribe, but a listing on the *web*. It's run by Hugh Winters, another of the RootsWeb list admins, and linked from genUKI's surname lists page at http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/SurnamesLists.html Through thae link above you can register your interests in any UK region. Wendy

Hi List, I've replied to Jan more fully off list, but I thought it might be worth reminding everyone of this bit of my reply... >I know it's expensive to buy Civil Registration birth certificates, but did you know that if you email the archivist at Birmingham Library at [email protected] you can get a copy of the original entry in the parish records for just £1? Much cheaper than applying for birth certs. < Barb Stacey Solihull UK > Many thanks to all who assisted us in our search for the elusive Abraham. > Two really good pointers came - Barb Stacey - the Abraham D you identified > had the wrong father. But we were really excited at first. Then from > Marlene Shipton another sighting but this one was too old and also wrong > father. Finally from Graham Dixon (I really thought we had hit the jackpot when it read the name!) So many possibles I am answering that separately. So we are still searching.

Sorry, folks - and thanks to Jane - this is the URL for the Warwickshire surname interest list page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/warwick.html Wendy

Hi Chris - All's well then :-) Why not give the listers an example of what you've put up - we may start a wave of Birmingham postem enthusiasm ! Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Post-ems - FreeBMD (was DEVEY Ann) > Hi Wendy, > That's because I use a different address. > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wendy > Archer > Sent: 18 May 2008 18:39 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [B'ham] Post-ems - FreeBMD (was DEVEY Ann) > > Hi Chris- > > >> Hi Wendy, >> Have you had success from the post-ems? I've put on loads, but I guess >> no-one is researching my family? Well, no results to date anyway, but I >> live in hope. > > It's hard to tell - but I link to my website, so it wouldn't be obvious > how > folks had found me. > > Putting your address in the "information contains" search box at > http://www7.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/ShowPostems.pl doesn't bring up any > entries - > > though maybe you entered them after the last update? > > Wendy > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk > , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to > make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wendy, That's because I use a different address. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wendy Archer Sent: 18 May 2008 18:39 To: [email protected] Subject: [B'ham] Post-ems - FreeBMD (was DEVEY Ann) Hi Chris- > Hi Wendy, > Have you had success from the post-ems? I've put on loads, but I guess > no-one is researching my family? Well, no results to date anyway, but I > live in hope. It's hard to tell - but I link to my website, so it wouldn't be obvious how folks had found me. Putting your address in the "information contains" search box at http://www7.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/ShowPostems.pl doesn't bring up any entries - though maybe you entered them after the last update? Wendy _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris- > Hi Wendy, > Have you had success from the post-ems? I've put on loads, but I guess > no-one is researching my family? Well, no results to date anyway, but I > live in hope. It's hard to tell - but I link to my website, so it wouldn't be obvious how folks had found me. Putting your address in the "information contains" search box at http://www7.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/ShowPostems.pl doesn't bring up any entries - though maybe you entered them after the last update? Wendy

Reg - >> Hilton - >> >> > Looking for descendants of... >> > >> > Ann DEVEY bn c1863 Birmingham. England. dau. of George DEVEY and Ann >> > Maria >> > CHAMBERS. m Arthur William TAYLOR 1883 New Zealand. Arthur bn 1857 Long >> > Sutton, Lincoln. England. is son of Thomas TAYLOR and Mary MASON >> >> For a while now, I've been running taglines encouraging listers to put >> post-ems on FreeBMD against entries of which they have knowledge. You >> could >> do such, and I see haven't yet done so, with Ann DEVEY's birth. >> >> You could also post your interests on the Warwickshire surname interest >> list - http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/hughw/warwick.html >> >> Wendy >> B'ham List Admin Reg asked: > Wendy, I have seen your message many times, but I am not sure what format > they should take. Could you elaborate or refer the list to a correct > posting. > TIA Let's have a look at an example - Go to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl and put in the marriage of James ADAMS in Dec 1849. There are 7 entries, and the Birmingham one has a post-em - an envelope icon - against it. It says: "CERTIFICATE NOT MINE - FREE TO GOOD HOME James Adams m. Mary Ann WHITWORTH 24 Nov 1849, St. Martin Birmingham, Fathers are William Adams, Shoe Maker and Thomas Whitworth, Pearl Button Maker" and gives contact details. Or try a Thomas LEE, birth Mar 1884. Lots - the last, Thomas William S LEE, born in Birmingham. It says: "This entry is for Thomas William Samuel Lee who emigrated to Canada with his wife Elsie Eliza (nee Hadley also of Birmingham)Thomas (known as Bill) lived for many years in Richmond BC and died in Prince George BC April 5, 1967. "and gives contact details. So - that's how they can appear. To add one, you go to any event which is relevant to you, click the info button, and add a post-em. It won't appear immediately - only when the next update is done. Wendy

Hi Wendy, Have you had success from the post-ems? I've put on loads, but I guess no-one is researching my family? Well, no results to date anyway, but I live in hope. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- For a while now, I've been running taglines encouraging listers to put post-ems on FreeBMD against entries of which they have knowledge. You could do such, and I see haven't yet done so, with Ann DEVEY's birth. You could also post your interests on the Warwickshire surname interest list - http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/hughw/warwick.html Wendy B'ham List Admin

Yes a 16 year old could and still can witness a marriage. It was checked out for us when our younger daughter witnessed her elder sister's wedding. The only requirement of a witness to a marriage is that they are present throughout the marriage ceremony, understand what has happened and what they are signing / making their mark for. Hope this help, Chris -----Original Message----- Hi Listers, Would someone please tell me if a 16 year-old brother could be a witness to the marriage of his sister in 1899. I have what I believe is the death of an Edward FLOWER in 1898, whereas his daughter Ada married a year after this. There was a son, also Edward, who was born in early 1882. I realise that to be 100% sure I would probably need to get the marriage cert. Would the certificate show that the father was deceased at the time of the wedding? It's a bit confusing because the two Edwards were both plasterers. Diane (Melbourne).

Hi Listers, Would someone please tell me if a 16 year-old brother could be a witness to the marriage of his sister in 1899. I have what I believe is the death of an Edward FLOWER in 1898, whereas his daughter Ada married a year after this. There was a son, also Edward, who was born in early 1882. I realise that to be 100% sure I would probably need to get the marriage cert. Would the certificate show that the father was deceased at the time of the wedding? It's a bit confusing because the two Edwards were both plasterers. Diane (Melbourne).

Hi I am trying to trace a James Muir who married a Margaret CULLOP and lived in Birmingham in the 1970's. I wondered if anyone knows of them. I heard they had one son Peter but am desperate to try and find these people. They did live in Northamptonshire when we knew them Can someone help me please Regards Eunice, Australia

Hilton - > Looking for descendants of... > > Ann DEVEY bn c1863 Birmingham. England. dau. of George DEVEY and Ann Maria > CHAMBERS. m Arthur William TAYLOR 1883 New Zealand. Arthur bn 1857 Long > Sutton, Lincoln. England. is son of Thomas TAYLOR and Mary MASON For a while now, I've been running taglines encouraging listers to put post-ems on FreeBMD against entries of which they have knowledge. You could do such, and I see haven't yet done so, with Ann DEVEY's birth. You could also post your interests on the Warwickshire surname interest list - http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/hughw/warwick.html Wendy B'ham List Admin

Hi Graham Many thanks for your information . re your query about Willans/William - I have not really noticed any Willans - but I have not been able to find William Dixon either but I will keep a look out for both now. Re Ireland - we feel that he could be Irish for the reasons listed in my earlier email. Problem is as you identify no census records for Ireland. and to keep paying for "possible" birth records (not that I have found many) can be pretty expensive. I am hoping as more counties in Ireland come on line re BMD we may be able to identify. Do you have any special links to search Ireland online? I dont know if he was hiding in Ireland - dont think so as he was pretty easy to track in UK from 1871. Mind you if he was hiding = he did a pretty good job of it! Re Wards - my current connection is that I married a Ward. However I do have Ward's on my fathers side = Caroline Ward, born 1839 married James Turner. They both came from Birmingham but lived in Middlesex for a few years. Her father was Thomas Ward. Sorry I cannot help with the NZ Ward - some of my family did emigrate there but not Ward. I know my Abraham Dixon had a son Frederick - is this any relation to you? Jan

Wendy: Thanks for suggesting the Warwickshire Surname Interest List. I have tried it but, unfortunately, it is not working for me. I high-lighted it from your e-mail but it comes up as an 'error' page. Jane **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)