As a child living in Northfield before the War I remember Pigeon House Hill being known by that name. On the right at the top of the Hill was a very old house that eventually became the Northfield Labour Club and was reputed to be the oldest building in Greater Birmingham John S Sermon On 1/6/08 16:43, "Rob Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mike > It is a stretch of the Bristol Road South (A38) just below the Black horse > pub on the junction with Frankley Beeches Road, running down the hill > towards the junction with Steel Road as you approach the bottom of the hill > (there is a post office symbol * marked on the A-Z of Birmingham which is > roughly the bottom of the hill). > > It is an old name for the location and you would probably not find many > people who live in the area refer to it as this name. I was doing some > research on that stretch of Roman road a number of years ago which is how I > know about it. An old book in Northfield library mentioned Pigeon House Hill > but I can't remember the name of it at the moment. > > Hope this helps > Rachel > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Fisher > Sent: 01 June 2008 15:06 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [B'ham] Pigeon House Hill Northfield > > Hi All > > Can anyone tell me the location of Pigeon House Hill, Northfield. > It is on a postcard and google can't find it, but Travel West Midlands > mentions it. > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich > my family tree is at > http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com > 05602 868256 > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk > , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike It is a stretch of the Bristol Road South (A38) just below the Black horse pub on the junction with Frankley Beeches Road, running down the hill towards the junction with Steel Road as you approach the bottom of the hill (there is a post office symbol * marked on the A-Z of Birmingham which is roughly the bottom of the hill). It is an old name for the location and you would probably not find many people who live in the area refer to it as this name. I was doing some research on that stretch of Roman road a number of years ago which is how I know about it. An old book in Northfield library mentioned Pigeon House Hill but I can't remember the name of it at the moment. Hope this helps Rachel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Fisher Sent: 01 June 2008 15:06 To: [email protected] Subject: [B'ham] Pigeon House Hill Northfield Hi All Can anyone tell me the location of Pigeon House Hill, Northfield. It is on a postcard and google can't find it, but Travel West Midlands mentions it. Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree is at http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com 05602 868256 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All Can anyone tell me the location of Pigeon House Hill, Northfield. It is on a postcard and google can't find it, but Travel West Midlands mentions it. Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree is at http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com 05602 868256

Hello Dave, Sorry, I guess I snipped too much from my reply! Thanks for your suggestion, but the original question was: As a first-time WAR researcher, I'm trying to establish the birth details of John GASCOIGNE who married Elizabeth SMITH in Banbury, Oxon, in 1844. In 1841, John's in Banbury, an unmarried 20-yr-old labourer, not born in Oxon. The 1851 census of nearby Neithrop where the family settled shows him born c1819 in "Delton, WAR". By 1861, the place has become "Pelton, WAR". On both occasions the writing is very clear, so there's no confusion over what's been written. I can't find either Delton or Pelton on a map, so would appreciate some suggestions. Could the place perhaps be Pailton? If so, is that Monks Kirby? John died in the Union Workhouse in 1866, so later censuses won't help. Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated! TIA, Norma in sunny but wintery Mosgiel, New Zealand David Carr wrote: > Hi > missed the beginning of this thread but for the Banbury workhouse (it > was in Neithrop) visit http://www.workhouses.org.uk then choose > Workhouse locations/Oxfordshire/Banbury > > the amount of info is quite amazing. > Dave

Hello Chris, Presumably the Union Workhouse for Banbury, wherever that is ... they lived in Neithrop and he was buried in Banbury. Norma in Mosgiel, New Zealand [email protected] wrote: > Is this the Union Workhouse in Monks Kirby, or somewhere else? >

Hello from Massachusetts, I'm still looking for a sister and brother - John and Jill Rawlins. Their parents were Walter and Gladys Rawlins. John was a Butcher and lived in Sutton Coldfield, England. I don't have a birth for John and Jill. I would guess they were born in the 1920's. Thank you Carol

Hi missed the beginning of this thread but for the Banbury workhouse (it was in Neithrop) visit http://www.workhouses.org.uk then choose Workhouse locations/Oxfordshire/Banbury the amount of info is quite amazing. Dave On 29 May 2008, at 02:20, Norma Bethune wrote: Hello Chris, Presumably the Union Workhouse for Banbury, wherever that is ... they lived in Neithrop and he was buried in Banbury. Norma in Mosgiel, New Zealand [email protected] wrote: > Is this the Union Workhouse in Monks Kirby, or somewhere else? >

Banbury is actually in Oxfordshire although part of the Banbury Registration District has certain Townships or parishes that are in Warwickshire. I was unable to find Neithrop in either or on a map. Banbury is best remembered by a Nursery Rhyme "Ride a cock horse to Banbury Cross. To see a fine lady upon a white horse With rings on her finger and bells on her toes She shall have music wherever she goes" (Sorry Wendy, I know it's off subject.) Reg Burlington Ont. Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Bethune" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] help with WAR place-name, please; GASCOIGNE > Hello Chris, > Presumably the Union Workhouse for Banbury, wherever that is ... they > lived in Neithrop and he was buried in Banbury. > Norma in Mosgiel, New Zealand > > [email protected] wrote: >> Is this the Union Workhouse in Monks Kirby, or somewhere else? >> > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just posted on brummages <http://brummages.blogspot.com/> site, pictures of the inside of the church and 2 plaques with names of people who served and died in WW1. -- Best wishes, David Fisher. "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" -- Pictures of FISHERs (Brum), CONGREAVEs (Notts and Brum) and PUGHs and GATENBYs (Durham, Yorks and Brum) at http://snygyst.blogspot.com Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com

Thanks, Ken, but the entry specifies 'Warwickshire' each time! Kenneth William Bibb wrote: > Norma, > There is a Pelton in Durham > Ken

My name is Margaret, from Australia, and I am new to this list. I am searching for information about Francis Joseph NEYLAN, born in Co Clare, migrated to USA, worked on the railways there, then moved to Birmingham. He was living at Chapel St Handsworth Birmingham on 8th Jan 1958 when he was killed by a train at Hockley Goods Railway Station where he worked. His inquest held from 9th Jan- 16th Jan 1958 was attended by a daughter, Margaret Mary Symons, wife of Glyn Symons,solicitor's clerk, and she stated she lived at the Ear Nose and Throat Hospital. I believe she may have had a brother. Searching for any information on descendants of this family. Francis , known as Frank, is buried at Handsworth Cemetery with his wife, Annie Maria. Frank was my grandfather's brother, and I would love to see his death and funeral notices, as his siblings were scattered in Ireland, USA, and Australia. Any information would be very welcome. Margaret

As a first-time WAR researcher, I'm trying to establish the birth details of John GASCOIGNE who married Elizabeth SMITH in Banbury, Oxon, in 1844. In 1841, John's in Banbury an unmarried 20-yr-old labourer, not born in Oxon. The 1851 census of nearby Neithrop shows him born c1819 in "Delton, WAR". By 1861, the place has become "Pelton, WAR". On both occasions the writing is very clear, so there's no confusion over what's been written. I can't find either Delton or Pelton on a map, so would appreciate some suggestions. Could the place perhaps be Pailton? If so, is that Monks Kirby? John died in the Union Workhouse in 1866, so later censuses won't help. Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated! TIA, Norma in sunny but wintery Mosgiel, New Zealand

On 28 May, Norma Bethune <[email protected]> wrote: > As a first-time WAR researcher, I'm trying to establish the birth > details of John GASCOIGNE who married Elizabeth SMITH in Banbury, Oxon, > in 1844. > In 1841, John's in Banbury an unmarried 20-yr-old labourer, not born in > Oxon. The 1851 census of nearby Neithrop shows him born c1819 in > "Delton, WAR". By 1861, the place has become "Pelton, WAR". On both > occasions the writing is very clear, so there's no confusion over what's > been written. > I can't find either Delton or Pelton on a map, so would appreciate some > suggestions. > Could the place perhaps be Pailton? If so, is that Monks Kirby? John > died in the Union Workhouse in 1866, so later censuses won't help. Is this the Union Workhouse in Monks Kirby, or somewhere else? -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Norma, There is a Pelton in Durham Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Bethune" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: [B'ham] help with WAR place-name, please; GASCOIGNE > As a first-time WAR researcher, I'm trying to establish the birth > details of John GASCOIGNE who married Elizabeth SMITH in Banbury, Oxon, > in 1844. > > In 1841, John's in Banbury an unmarried 20-yr-old labourer, not born in > Oxon. The 1851 census of nearby Neithrop shows him born c1819 in > "Delton, WAR". By 1861, the place has become "Pelton, WAR". On both > occasions the writing is very clear, so there's no confusion over what's > been written. > > I can't find either Delton or Pelton on a map, so would appreciate some > suggestions. > Could the place perhaps be Pailton? If so, is that Monks Kirby? John > died in the Union Workhouse in 1866, so later censuses won't help. > > Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated! > > TIA, > Norma in sunny but wintery Mosgiel, New Zealand > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dave, Have now got a copy of the above church. I registered on the site and was then able to download it. Thanks for your help. Doug. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of David Carr Sent: 26 May 2008 12:49 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B'ham] St. Thomas in the Moors Church, Balsall Heath. Doug are you able to view this link to the Birmingham webring? Let me know if not. http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php? t=9649&highlight=thomas+moors Dave On 26 May 2008, at 11:49, Doug Sollis wrote: Would anyone with a picture/photograph of the above church which stood on the corner of Lincoln Street and Clevedon Road, Balsall Heath please be kind enough to scan me a copy. We made a visit to the area the other day but the church is no longer there. The Central Library do not have a copy. Thank you, Doug Sollis. _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1466 - Release Date: 25/05/2008 18:49 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1468 - Release Date: 26/05/2008 15:23

If anyone is in Birmingham Library please would they be kind enough to check the following for me: Saint Martins Marriages 1785 to 1802: I have two marriages; 1) 24 April 1795, Malcolm MIDDLETON Bachelor, m Ann RUTTER, witnesses Charla Shuttleworth & Sarah Braughton 2) 27 September 1801, Malcolm Middleton, Widower, m Mary Rutter, witnesses, Sarah Broughton & John Brooke Please check; Was Sarah Braughton (Broughton) a "professional" witness? Also, What is the handwriting like? is she clearly Mary RUTTER or may she have been Mary BUTLER Thanking you in advance, Chris

Hi Wendy, Sorry, I can't seem to locate your "off list" address. Perhaps you can send it directly to me and I'll let you know the bouncing addresses. I am sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't seem to enter my own interests on the Warwickshire Surname list. Thanks, Chris -----Original Message----- If you want to let me know off list the addresses that are bouncing - it just may be that I know of newer addresses, and can forward a message from you. But enter your own interests anyway ! Wendy

Hi Dave. Thanks for your reply but could not view the link. Doug. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of David Carr Sent: 26 May 2008 12:49 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B'ham] St. Thomas in the Moors Church, Balsall Heath. Doug are you able to view this link to the Birmingham webring? Let me know if not. http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php? t=9649&highlight=thomas+moors Dave On 26 May 2008, at 11:49, Doug Sollis wrote: Would anyone with a picture/photograph of the above church which stood on the corner of Lincoln Street and Clevedon Road, Balsall Heath please be kind enough to scan me a copy. We made a visit to the area the other day but the church is no longer there. The Central Library do not have a copy. Thank you, Doug Sollis. _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1466 - Release Date: 25/05/2008 18:49 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1466 - Release Date: 25/05/2008 18:49

Is it possible for someone to look up the following deaths to see if the parents of Emma Cooper were Stretton? Emma Cooper died 1886 Aston 57yrs Emma Cooper died 1900 Birmingham 74yrs thanks Paul Stretton

Doug are you able to view this link to the Birmingham webring? Let me know if not. http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php? t=9649&highlight=thomas+moors Dave On 26 May 2008, at 11:49, Doug Sollis wrote: Would anyone with a picture/photograph of the above church which stood on the corner of Lincoln Street and Clevedon Road, Balsall Heath please be kind enough to scan me a copy. We made a visit to the area the other day but the church is no longer there. The Central Library do not have a copy. Thank you, Doug Sollis.