Can you give me any information on Sarah Taylor, such as age in 1901, address and parents? There could be a link there. Reg Wesson Burlington Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:44 AM Subject: [B'ham] Some names from my tree.... > Dear researchers, I have the following individuals from Warickshire > (Birmingham, Aston, West Bromwich +) in my tree. > > If any names ring a bell, perhaps we have a connection... > > 282 ANDREWS, Clara > 342 .................... Thomas > 316 .................... Thomas Bates > 187 BABINGTON, Ernest > 284 LOCK, Louisa > 239 SODEN, Ellen Elizabeth > 317 SPRIGGS, Ann > 344 ................. John > 237 TAYLOR, Ada > 272 ................. Louisa > 271 ................. Sarah > 318 ................. Thomas > 283 ................. William > 75 ................. William R > 159 WILSON, Ada Mabel > 265 ................ Albert F > 266 ................ Alfred J > 269 ................ Annie Clara > 182 ................ Bertram Ernest > 236 ................ Charles Ernest > 181 ................ Charles Henry > 314 ................ Edward > 178 ................ Elizebeth > 186 ................ Elsie > 180 ................ Gillian > 183 ................ Harold > 281 ................ Henry > 188 ................ Ivy > 184 ................ James > 268 ................ Minnie L > 179 ................ Richard > 270 ................ Sidney J > 267 ................ William A > Regards > > Phil Mutton > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Chris: The replies you've already had give the legal position. The problem is that many people didn't obey the law. In my experience, if someone was recorded in the registers of Birmingham St Martin as being "of this parish" you can read very little into it other than that they wanted to get married at Birmingham St Martin. I've had an example where the couple lived in rural Worcestershire and another with the couple from rural Staffordshire. The problem was that in large urban parishes, where there were dozens of marriages every Sunday and substantial movements of population every week, it was simply impossible for the parish officers to know if someone really did live where they claimed, let alone that they had done so for a specific period of time. All that was necessary was for the prospective bride and groom to quote an appropriate address, and that was that. Of course the reverse isn't true. Someone claiming to be from a parish other than Birmingham St Martin almost certainly did really come from that place. Best wishes Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: [B'ham] Of this Parish? > > I have received much help from this group so I am hoping someone knows the > answer to my current quandary. > > Between 1770's to 1790's > > 1. If a person holds a Marriage Certificate from St. Martin's Church > which > states they are "of this Parish" can this be used to prove evidence of > settlement? > > 2. If a person lives in Birmingham but has settlement entitlement > elsewhere > when they marry at St. Martin's would the marriage certificate show them > as > "being of this Parish" or would it show their parish of settlement? > > 3. If a person is from a family of dissenters who do not use the parish > church would they be able to claim settlement and parish relief through > residency? > > Thanking everyone in anticipation. > > Chris > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Poor Law Settlement qualifications are 1. Birth 2. Parentage 3. Marriage (settlement to wife) 4. Estate 5. Apprenticeship 6. Renting a tenement 7. Payment of parochial rates 8 Residence in a parish without relief for 3 years ref The Law Relating to the Relief of the Poor published 1812 Regards Mike Hutchinson

Hi Chris > Between 1770's to 1790's > > 1. If a person holds a Marriage Certificate from St. Martin's Church > which > states they are "of this Parish" can this be used to prove evidence of > settlement? As "of this Parish" can mean the couple lived in the Parish for just a few weeks I cannot see it being any use in proving settlement in itself > 2. If a person lives in Birmingham but has settlement entitlement > elsewhere > when they marry at St. Martin's would the marriage certificate show them > as > "being of this Parish" or would it show their parish of settlement? That all depends, if they were of this Parish they would only need the banns reading in the one place, if they were noted as being of another Parish the banns would have to be read there too, as I believe a fee was involved for reading the banns it was cheaper for both parties to be OTP > 3. If a person is from a family of dissenters who do not use the parish > church would they be able to claim settlement and parish relief through > residency? Not claiming to know a vast amount on the subject of settlement, try here <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorsettlement_cole.html> There is plenty more to be had with google Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > Thanking everyone in anticipation. > > Chris

Hi Audrey No wonder I could not find Percy Barratt in the 1861 census as Ancestry has him down as Lucy. Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM Digest, Vol 3, Issue 254 > Hello Mike > Thanks for replying so quick. > Children Percy Barratt 1857 and Edna Barratt 1848 were the Children of > John > and Caroline Barratt nee Salt M 1844 in Stafford I have their Marriage > Cert. > Caroline died about 1860. he Married Elizabeth Robins Mother of Eliza > Robins b > 1863 in 1868 I have Birth Cert. no Father on, John Yates in Birmingham > Registry Office suggest when he sent me her Certificate to look at the > Baptism > Records which I am unable to get to see or the Poor Law record. help > needed with > this > There was also a Sarah Barratt born in 1862 which I haven`t followed up > she > also could have been born out of wedlock. > You are correct about 1861 census Elizabeth was still with her Mother and > Father. > 1861 John Barratt 37 Cordwainer > Percy Barratt 4 > Edna Barratt 13. > Living at latimer Street South Court 5. > 1871 Census gives Eliza age 7 Daughter of John and Elizabeth Barratt > Living at 5court no 13 Blucher Street also in 1881. > Audrey > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Audrey I notice in the 1871 census there is 15 years difference in their ages and Eliza Barratt is recorded as being a servant not a daughter. Percy Barratt aged 14 in the 1871 census is registered in Birmingham in 1857. I can not find John Barratt with son Percy in the 1861 census. I think I can find Elizabeth Robins age 22 in the 1861 census with her parents Jeremiah and Sarah with an occupation of bridle stitchery the same as 1871. If John Barratt is the father he was not present when the birth was registered , which he would need to be as they were not married. St Thomas parish records are in the IGI and there is no entry for Eliza Robins or Barratt Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: [B'ham] Baptism Record > Dear All > I have a copy of my grandmother`s birth certificate Eliza born to > Elizabeth > Robins 10/5/1863 no fathers name I know Elizabeth did marry John Barratt > my > Gt > Grandfather? 5years later, the informant was my Gt Gt Grandmother could > anyone let me know how I can get a copy of the baptism reord, I can`t > get > to B`ham > sorry. > Audrey > > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Not at present but will keep your e-mail . Mine are Robert Lees b c 1850, Father said to be Robert on Marriage certificate.But in 1901 Robert jn was listed as John Lees . I have not been able to get a birth for Robert or even a death yet .Still searching .I found his wife Dinah death after a long search . Jean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kenneth William Bibb Sent: 03 June 2008 03:38 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE Jean, Looking at the B'Ham list, I have LEES in my family, my Aunt married Arthur John Lees who was born 1915 I go back to 1804. It goes back to Charles John b1878, Thomas Charles 1837, Charles 1804 do any of these names ring a bell, if so let me know. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Lees" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE > My frustration is the last child of my husbands grandparents born 1900 hes > on the 1901 census we cannot find his birth .The only child i have not > found > have all the other 11 children > > Jean L > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of JANE DYER > Sent: 02 June 2008 11:28 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE > > > but it's so frustrating! Like when a child is born out of wedlock & the > father is not named. 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Dear Helen, Thanks so much for sending those details. They have helped no end with lots of scope for follow-up. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] HIMSLEY >I found the entire family in 1891 census but the spelling of the last name > is shown as HINESLEY all born in Scotland..........at time of census they > were > living in Westoe, Durham, England. > > The family consisted of : David Hinesley 41, ships steward > Jeannie, wife, 42 > John son 10 > James son 8 > Alexander son 3 > Janet Murray, niece age 6 > Archibald Stewart nephew 25 > Jeannie daughter 5 > Isabell 18 > > The entire family was born in Scotland. > With James shown as aged 8, his birth year would be 1883. > > Hope this info helps with your searching, smiles, Helen in Seattle > > > > In a message dated 6/2/2008 6:33:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > The death record (1962) has his parents names: David and Jeannie Himsley > but just lists United Kingdom as the place. Sorry I don't have more. > Thanks > for your help anyway. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:21 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] HIMSLEY > > >> Hi Jan, do you have any other pieces of information such as parents >> names, >> where he might have lived. His marriage certificate doesn't list his >> birth >> date and/or place or his parents? What you have supplied really isn't >> adequate >> to do any searches. Helen in Seattle >> >> >> In a message dated 6/2/2008 5:33:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I'm seeking birth details for James Moffatt HIMSLEY who may have been >> born >> in England but married 1908 in Sydney, NSW. >> >> >> >> >> **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking >> with >> Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. >> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on >> www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers >> will >> then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your >> postem. >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk > , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to > make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jean, Looking at the B'Ham list, I have LEES in my family, my Aunt married Arthur John Lees who was born 1915 I go back to 1804. It goes back to Charles John b1878, Thomas Charles 1837, Charles 1804 do any of these names ring a bell, if so let me know. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Lees" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE > My frustration is the last child of my husbands grandparents born 1900 hes > on the 1901 census we cannot find his birth .The only child i have not > found > have all the other 11 children > > Jean L > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of JANE DYER > Sent: 02 June 2008 11:28 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE > > > but it's so frustrating! Like when a child is born out of wedlock & the > father is not named. I hate the short branches on my tree! > Good luck > J > > Patricia Sheldon <[email protected]> wrote: > Cheers Jane, > You have gone to a bit of trouble for me and I am very grateful, it might > be > one of those you have to just leave! > Regards > Pat. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JANE DYER > Sent: 01 June 2008 22:36 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE > > This is the most likely marriage. > There's only one other at St Martins but that's after the > 1st child was born so less likely. > Neither seem to have any link to the name Weaver > & I can't find it as a possible maiden name for John's mother either. > Sorry I can't sovle this one! > Jane > > IGI Individual Record > > > > JOHN SHILTON Pedigree Male > Family Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH > CHESTERTON Family Marriage: 05 MAY 1828 Saint Martin, > Birmingham, Warwick, England > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk > , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: > 30/05/2008 > 14:53 > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk > , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk > , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to > make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mike Thanks for replying so quick. Children Percy Barratt 1857 and Edna Barratt 1848 were the Children of John and Caroline Barratt nee Salt M 1844 in Stafford I have their Marriage Cert. Caroline died about 1860. he Married Elizabeth Robins Mother of Eliza Robins b 1863 in 1868 I have Birth Cert. no Father on, John Yates in Birmingham Registry Office suggest when he sent me her Certificate to look at the Baptism Records which I am unable to get to see or the Poor Law record. help needed with this There was also a Sarah Barratt born in 1862 which I haven`t followed up she also could have been born out of wedlock. You are correct about 1861 census Elizabeth was still with her Mother and Father. 1861 John Barratt 37 Cordwainer Percy Barratt 4 Edna Barratt 13. Living at latimer Street South Court 5. 1871 Census gives Eliza age 7 Daughter of John and Elizabeth Barratt Living at 5court no 13 Blucher Street also in 1881. Audrey

Sorry, I don't have the death certificate , these details were given to me by his grandson. I posted my query to this site because its members have been so helpful in the past but I really have no idea where in the UK he was born. Sorry. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] HIMSLEY > Does the death certificate list an age. I can search the census but > having > the age tells me where to begin looking in the census. And why did you > put > your query on the Birmingham list. Was he born in Birmingham? Helen > > In a message dated 6/2/2008 6:33:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > The death record (1962) has his parents names: David and Jeannie Himsley > but just lists United Kingdom as the place. Sorry I don't have more. > Thanks > for your help anyway. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:21 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] HIMSLEY > > >> Hi Jan, do you have any other pieces of information such as parents >> names, >> where he might have lived. His marriage certificate doesn't list his >> birth >> date and/or place or his parents? What you have supplied really isn't >> adequate >> to do any searches. Helen in Seattle >> >> >> In a message dated 6/2/2008 5:33:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> I'm seeking birth details for James Moffatt HIMSLEY who may have been >> born >> in England but married 1908 in Sydney, NSW. >> >> >> >> >> **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking >> with >> Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. >> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on >> www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers >> will >> then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your >> postem. >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk > , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to > make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The death record (1962) has his parents names: David and Jeannie Himsley but just lists United Kingdom as the place. Sorry I don't have more. Thanks for your help anyway. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] HIMSLEY > Hi Jan, do you have any other pieces of information such as parents > names, > where he might have lived. His marriage certificate doesn't list his > birth > date and/or place or his parents? What you have supplied really isn't > adequate > to do any searches. Helen in Seattle > > > In a message dated 6/2/2008 5:33:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I'm seeking birth details for James Moffatt HIMSLEY who may have been > born > in England but married 1908 in Sydney, NSW. > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have received much help from this group so I am hoping someone knows the answer to my current quandary. Between 1770's to 1790's 1. If a person holds a Marriage Certificate from St. Martin's Church which states they are "of this Parish" can this be used to prove evidence of settlement? 2. If a person lives in Birmingham but has settlement entitlement elsewhere when they marry at St. Martin's would the marriage certificate show them as "being of this Parish" or would it show their parish of settlement? 3. If a person is from a family of dissenters who do not use the parish church would they be able to claim settlement and parish relief through residency? Thanking everyone in anticipation. Chris

I'm seeking birth details for James Moffatt HIMSLEY who may have been born in England but married 1908 in Sydney, NSW. Thanks, Jan

Dear All I have a copy of my grandmother`s birth certificate Eliza born to Elizabeth Robins 10/5/1863 no fathers name I know Elizabeth did marry John Barratt my Gt Grandfather? 5years later, the informant was my Gt Gt Grandmother could anyone let me know how I can get a copy of the baptism reord, I can`t get to B`ham sorry. Audrey

Last child of the "parents"? Look for the child being the illigitimate child of one of the suitably aged daughters of the family thus making this child their grand-daughter. Happened in my family - my father had a sibling he thought was his uncle! I found out long after Dad had passed on but I really don't think anyone knew. Might not be the case in your family, of course, but... worth considering. Good luck Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean Lees Sent: Monday, 2 June 2008 10:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE My frustration is the last child of my husbands grandparents born 1900 hes on the 1901 census we cannot find his birth .The only child i have not found have all the other 11 children Jean L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of JANE DYER Sent: 02 June 2008 11:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE but it's so frustrating! Like when a child is born out of wedlock & the father is not named. I hate the short branches on my tree! Good luck J Patricia Sheldon <[email protected]> wrote: Cheers Jane, You have gone to a bit of trouble for me and I am very grateful, it might be one of those you have to just leave! Regards Pat. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JANE DYER Sent: 01 June 2008 22:36 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B'ham] LOOK UP PLEASE This is the most likely marriage. There's only one other at St Martins but that's after the 1st child was born so less likely. Neither seem to have any link to the name Weaver & I can't find it as a possible maiden name for John's mother either. Sorry I can't sovle this one! Jane IGI Individual Record JOHN SHILTON Pedigree Male Family Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH CHESTERTON Family Marriage: 05 MAY 1828 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: 30/05/2008 14:53 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 3150 (20080601) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

I found the entire family in 1891 census but the spelling of the last name is shown as HINESLEY all born in Scotland..........at time of census they were living in Westoe, Durham, England. The family consisted of : David Hinesley 41, ships steward Jeannie, wife, 42 John son 10 James son 8 Alexander son 3 Janet Murray, niece age 6 Archibald Stewart nephew 25 Jeannie daughter 5 Isabell 18 The entire family was born in Scotland. With James shown as aged 8, his birth year would be 1883. Hope this info helps with your searching, smiles, Helen in Seattle In a message dated 6/2/2008 6:33:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The death record (1962) has his parents names: David and Jeannie Himsley but just lists United Kingdom as the place. Sorry I don't have more. Thanks for your help anyway. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] HIMSLEY > Hi Jan, do you have any other pieces of information such as parents > names, > where he might have lived. His marriage certificate doesn't list his > birth > date and/or place or his parents? What you have supplied really isn't > adequate > to do any searches. Helen in Seattle > > > In a message dated 6/2/2008 5:33:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I'm seeking birth details for James Moffatt HIMSLEY who may have been > born > in England but married 1908 in Sydney, NSW. > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Does the death certificate list an age. I can search the census but having the age tells me where to begin looking in the census. And why did you put your query on the Birmingham list. Was he born in Birmingham? Helen In a message dated 6/2/2008 6:33:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The death record (1962) has his parents names: David and Jeannie Himsley but just lists United Kingdom as the place. Sorry I don't have more. Thanks for your help anyway. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] HIMSLEY > Hi Jan, do you have any other pieces of information such as parents > names, > where he might have lived. His marriage certificate doesn't list his > birth > date and/or place or his parents? What you have supplied really isn't > adequate > to do any searches. Helen in Seattle > > > In a message dated 6/2/2008 5:33:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I'm seeking birth details for James Moffatt HIMSLEY who may have been > born > in England but married 1908 in Sydney, NSW. > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Hi Jan, do you have any other pieces of information such as parents names, where he might have lived. His marriage certificate doesn't list his birth date and/or place or his parents? What you have supplied really isn't adequate to do any searches. Helen in Seattle In a message dated 6/2/2008 5:33:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I'm seeking birth details for James Moffatt HIMSLEY who may have been born in England but married 1908 in Sydney, NSW. **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Hello Jane I wold like to confirm parent for James Freeman (1808) and for Mary Jane Cotterill??? I found that a Thomas Cotterill was living with family in 1871 census cannot find birth to confirm this is her father. I did contact a family looking for Freemans even though they have the same issue they said it ws not hr same family so I am very confused and do not know if I have the right parents etc Very hard from this side of the world to contact some who can point one in the right direction. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. regards Anna On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:54 PM, JANE DYER <[email protected]> wrote: > hi, what details are you particularly looking for? I don't know the family > but I'm always keen to help. > jane > > Anna Bell <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello List, > > My gt x 3 grand parents and their family lived in "Ladywood" Birmingham on > the 1871 census. > Their daughter Mary Jane with Husband Aaron BUTLER and their family > emigrated to Aust. ( This couple were my gt gt Grand parents. > > As far as I know the remaining family stayed in England. > > Hoping that some one out there knows of this family and and help me to find > the records please. > > 1 James FREEMAN 1808 - 1878 Old Park Shropshire > > .. +Mary Louisa COTTRELL 1814 - 1902 Coventy Wars > > .................... 2 William Henry FREEMAN 1830 - 1910 Birmingham Wars > > ........................ +Hannah 1827 - 1910 > > .................... 2 Joseph Benjamin FREEMAN 1832 - 1874 Birmingham Wars > > ........................ +Jane AKERS 1840 - > > .................... 2 Mary Jane FREEMAN 1836 - 1888 Birmingham Wars My > gt Gran died Sydney Aust > > ........................ +Aaron BUTLER 1829 - 1909 > > .................... 2 Anne Mariah FREEMAN 1840 - 1920 Birmingham Wars > > ........................ +Thomas POWERS 1838 - Birmingham Wars > > .................... 2 Martha Keziah FREEMAN 1842 -Birmingham Wars > > ........................ +Thomas JAMES 1815 - > > .................... 2 Ellen Elizabeth FREEMAN 1844 - 1922 Birmingham Wars > > ........................ +George STREET 1838 - 1920 > > .................... 2 Thomas Cottrell FREEMAN 1846 - Birmingham Wars > > ........................ +Emma VOYLE 1847 - > > .................... 2 Esther Mary FREEMAN 1852 - Birmingham Wars > > ........................ +Edward YEOMANS 1850 - > > .................... 2 George Henry FREEMAN 1857 - Birmingham Wars > > ........................ +Mary Ann CHESTER 1858 - > > > > Regards Anna > > Brisbane .Aust > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >