Hi Chris someone else on this mailing list sent this info out recently about bombing in Birmingham which is excellent. http://www.swanshurst.org/barra/ Dave On 22 Jun 2008, at 12:30, Graham Cole wrote: Hi everyone, I am wondering if there is anyone who can help me with my questions about Weoley Castle? My grandparents lived in Weoley Castle during WW2 backing onto the cemetery. I am trying to get a clear picture of their life during the war. I have been told that the Cemetery in Weoley Castle (is it called Lodge Hill?) received a bomb hit. Can anyone confirm or deny this statement or does anyone know how I can find out? If it is correct, what level of damage was rendered? Also, does anyone know what the Austin Works was producing at that time? I am guessing it would be tanks? Was there any industry around Weoley Castle area or would most bombers be passing over on their way to somewhere else? I know there was a "Big Bertha" and anti aircraft balloons. Would children in this area have been evacuated or was it a "safe area"? Is there any way I can find this out? If anyone can tell me anything about this area during the war years or at any other time I will be most grateful. Thanking you in advance, Chris

I have seen a map, at the reference library, I believe, that details where every bomb fell. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Carr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Bombing in Birmingham ww2/ Weoley Castle > Hi Chris > > someone else on this mailing list sent this info out recently about > bombing in Birmingham which is excellent. > > http://www.swanshurst.org/barra/ > > Dave > > > On 22 Jun 2008, at 12:30, Graham Cole wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > I am wondering if there is anyone who can help me with my questions > about > Weoley Castle? > > My grandparents lived in Weoley Castle during WW2 backing onto the > cemetery. > I am trying to get a clear picture of their life during the war. I have > been told that the Cemetery in Weoley Castle (is it called Lodge Hill?) > received a bomb hit. Can anyone confirm or deny this statement or does > anyone know how I can find out? If it is correct, what level of > damage was > rendered? Also, does anyone know what the Austin Works was producing at > that time? I am guessing it would be tanks? Was there any industry > around > Weoley Castle area or would most bombers be passing over on their way to > somewhere else? I know there was a "Big Bertha" and anti aircraft > balloons. > Would children in this area have been evacuated or was it a "safe > area"? Is > there any way I can find this out? > > If anyone can tell me anything about this area during the war years > or at > any other time I will be most grateful. > > Thanking you in advance, > Chris > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi everyone, I am wondering if there is anyone who can help me with my questions about Weoley Castle? My grandparents lived in Weoley Castle during WW2 backing onto the cemetery. I am trying to get a clear picture of their life during the war. I have been told that the Cemetery in Weoley Castle (is it called Lodge Hill?) received a bomb hit. Can anyone confirm or deny this statement or does anyone know how I can find out? If it is correct, what level of damage was rendered? Also, does anyone know what the Austin Works was producing at that time? I am guessing it would be tanks? Was there any industry around Weoley Castle area or would most bombers be passing over on their way to somewhere else? I know there was a "Big Bertha" and anti aircraft balloons. Would children in this area have been evacuated or was it a "safe area"? Is there any way I can find this out? If anyone can tell me anything about this area during the war years or at any other time I will be most grateful. Thanking you in advance, Chris

The map held at Birmingham Central Library is large and shows the position of every HE (High Explosive) bomb; every UXB (Unexploded Bomb); every Incendiary Bomb + UX Incendiary Bomb, together with the position of crashed aircraft on record. However, I was able to purchase a small copy of the area around our home around Clifton Road, Aston and the Central Area of Birmingham. I think they still sell them. If you can look at it, it is a wonder that myself and my family (I was 9 at the time of the 1940 Blitz) lived through it! Also, the people at Central Library are very helpful and you can e-mail them for any information you want. The Austin Works provided 180 Lancaster Bombers and the full history is at _www.raafawa.org.au/wa/museum/lanc/history.htm_ (http://www.raafawa.org.au/wa/museum/lanc/history.htm) Birmingham Central Library is at: _www.birmingham.gov.uk/centrallibrary.bcc_ (http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/centrallibrary.bcc) Some old pictures of Weoley Castle are at: _www.virtualbrum.co.uk/weoley.htm_ (http://www.virtualbrum.co.uk/weoley.htm) Hope this helps. Vic Garvey Kent, UK`

I am always amazed at the youth of servants and sometimes their great distance from home. Is there a good article on this subject or does someone want to opine on this topic. How were these people "hired" did they answer adverts in the paper, through family, relations, it just seems odd to me that 13 year old children were let out to service. What were they paid? Etc. Cheers Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:04 AM Subject: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM Digest, Vol 3, Issue 270 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. 1901 Birmingham look up request. (rayb) > 2. Re: 1901 Birmingham look up request. (Reg Wesson) > 3. Re: 1901 Birmingham look up request. (David Carr) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contact the ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM mailing list, send an email > to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. >

any relation to Freddy Lee, a pal of my dads in the late 1930s in Bordesley Green? Dave On 21 Jun 2008, at 19:50, Reg Wesson wrote: There is a girl Alice born Birmingham, Mar 1896 6d 114 which should give you the mother's details on the birth certificate. As there are some Harry Lees recorded between 1896 and 1901 have you looked on Find my Past to see if they emigrated? Reg Burlington Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "rayb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 6:03 AM Subject: [B'ham] 1901 Birmingham look up request. > Would SKS please help with a 1901 census look up please ? > > I am trying to find Harry LEE born Birmingham 1871 on the 1901 census, > he should be with his wife Elizabeth (Age and of place of birth not > known) > and at least 1 daughter Alice born Balsall Heath , Birmingham 1896. > > Harry was a brass founder on the 1891 census and born Birmingham, > Warwickshire. > In 1896 when his daughter Alice was baptised in Saint Paul's, Balsall > Heath he was living in Vincent Street. > and against fathers occupation he stated "Printer" as was his own > father > Henry LEE. > > I have looked for ages on the Genes Reunited 1901 Census without any > luck I am afraid. > The annoying thing is that I changed from Ancestry subscription to the > Genes Reunited > subscription, only the find the transcriptions equally poor, whats > next, > Find my Past I think. > > Kind regards > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1511 - Release Date: > 20/06/2008 11:52 > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other > researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info > button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a girl Alice born Birmingham, Mar 1896 6d 114 which should give you the mother's details on the birth certificate. As there are some Harry Lees recorded between 1896 and 1901 have you looked on Find my Past to see if they emigrated? Reg Burlington Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "rayb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 6:03 AM Subject: [B'ham] 1901 Birmingham look up request. > Would SKS please help with a 1901 census look up please ? > > I am trying to find Harry LEE born Birmingham 1871 on the 1901 census, > he should be with his wife Elizabeth (Age and of place of birth not known) > and at least 1 daughter Alice born Balsall Heath , Birmingham 1896. > > Harry was a brass founder on the 1891 census and born Birmingham, > Warwickshire. > In 1896 when his daughter Alice was baptised in Saint Paul's, Balsall > Heath he was living in Vincent Street. > and against fathers occupation he stated "Printer" as was his own father > Henry LEE. > > I have looked for ages on the Genes Reunited 1901 Census without any > luck I am afraid. > The annoying thing is that I changed from Ancestry subscription to the > Genes Reunited > subscription, only the find the transcriptions equally poor, whats next, > Find my Past I think. > > Kind regards > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1511 - Release Date: 20/06/2008 11:52 > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Would SKS please help with a 1901 census look up please ? I am trying to find Harry LEE born Birmingham 1871 on the 1901 census, he should be with his wife Elizabeth (Age and of place of birth not known) and at least 1 daughter Alice born Balsall Heath , Birmingham 1896. Harry was a brass founder on the 1891 census and born Birmingham, Warwickshire. In 1896 when his daughter Alice was baptised in Saint Paul's, Balsall Heath he was living in Vincent Street. and against fathers occupation he stated "Printer" as was his own father Henry LEE. I have looked for ages on the Genes Reunited 1901 Census without any luck I am afraid. The annoying thing is that I changed from Ancestry subscription to the Genes Reunited subscription, only the find the transcriptions equally poor, whats next, Find my Past I think. Kind regards No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1511 - Release Date: 20/06/2008 11:52

Jeff, I have looked at the 1881 census and this is what I found Charles L Royle born Bromley his parents are Thomas & Annie Thomas came from Salford. Charles L Royle born W Derby his parents are Henry & Elizabeth and they came from Sheffield. I would say look into 1891 & 1901 may give you some idea according to where you think the family originated. Ken B No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1508 - Release Date: 18/06/2008 9:08 PM

Jeff, On the BMD Charles Leonard ROYLE there are two, first 1Qu 1874 Bromley 2a 373 & 2Qu 1874 W Derby 8b 551 send for there birth cert's and follow them back from there, should be able to get some info off your parents cert's first though to find out where they came from. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: [B'ham] Charles Royle-Ridgeacre Road. > Can anyone please give me any information concerning my uncle CHARLES > LEONARD ROYLE who lived at 490 Ridgeacre Road before he died in > December 1951 (age 77) at 1, Western Road (Workhouse). I'm trying > to piece together his life and don't know how he ended up in Birmingham. > Many thanks > jeff. > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1508 - Release Date: 18/06/2008 9:08 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1508 - Release Date: 18/06/2008 9:08 PM

Thanks, Ken, for your very helpful and interesting reply. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth William Bibb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Moseley > Jan, > According to Carl Chinn Moseley in the Doomsday Book 1086 was recorded as > MUSELEIE, but in 1221 noted as MOSELEGE. Experts say is arrives from > 'MUS' - > 'LEAH'. Possible meanings " a clearing infested with mice" apparently in > Yardley one of the smallist fields was called "Mouse Park" and experts > thinks this has something to do with it. > > Ken B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:46 AM > Subject: [B'ham] Moseley > > >> Does anyone know why the Birmingham suburb of Moseley is so named please? >> >> Jan >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on >> www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will >> then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your >> postem. >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 18/06/2008 > 7:09 AM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 18/06/2008 > 7:09 AM > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jan, According to Carl Chinn Moseley in the Doomsday Book 1086 was recorded as MUSELEIE, but in 1221 noted as MOSELEGE. Experts say is arrives from 'MUS' - 'LEAH'. Possible meanings " a clearing infested with mice" apparently in Yardley one of the smallist fields was called "Mouse Park" and experts thinks this has something to do with it. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:46 AM Subject: [B'ham] Moseley > Does anyone know why the Birmingham suburb of Moseley is so named please? > > Jan > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 18/06/2008 7:09 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.0/1507 - Release Date: 18/06/2008 7:09 AM

Does anyone know why the Birmingham suburb of Moseley is so named please? Jan

Can anyone please give me any information concerning my uncle CHARLES LEONARD ROYLE who lived at 490 Ridgeacre Road before he died in December 1951 (age 77) at 1, Western Road (Workhouse). I'm trying to piece together his life and don't know how he ended up in Birmingham. Many thanks jeff.

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Hi Anne Thanks very much for the post. I've only just joined the list and this is my first enquiry. I found Gem Street on a 1962 online map - it was only a tiny street and as far as I know no longer exists. I think you are right about it being part of the campus. I had also got excted about finding the family's 1861 address - 69 High Street Aston - but I think the building went when the roads were widened. Thanks again for the good pointers! Cheers Tam Brisbane, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Gem Street Industrial School > Hi Tam. If you search in the Birmingham List archives you will find an > answer in 2006 from another lister with details of the school. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM/2006-03/1141507108 > > and there is information about it in Showells Guide to Birmingham > which is online as an e-book. > > There appeared to be a number of schools in Gem Street. But I can't > find the street on any maps of Birmingham, so it may have disappeared > in the rebuilding at some time. > I found a reference which said >> Gem Street. Now covered by Aston University Campus. > > Anne > On 14 Jun 2008, at 00:01, Tam Smith wrote: > >> Hi everyone >> >> In the 1871 census my husband's great grandfather is listed as an >> inmate of Gem Street Industrial School. I am visiting Birmingham >> later this month and wonder if the school building is still standing? >> >> Cheers >> >> Tam >> > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Tam. If you search in the Birmingham List archives you will find an answer in 2006 from another lister with details of the school. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM/2006-03/1141507108 and there is information about it in Showells Guide to Birmingham which is online as an e-book. There appeared to be a number of schools in Gem Street. But I can't find the street on any maps of Birmingham, so it may have disappeared in the rebuilding at some time. I found a reference which said > Gem Street. Now covered by Aston University Campus. Anne On 14 Jun 2008, at 00:01, Tam Smith wrote: > Hi everyone > > In the 1871 census my husband's great grandfather is listed as an > inmate of Gem Street Industrial School. I am visiting Birmingham > later this month and wonder if the school building is still standing? > > Cheers > > Tam >

Hi everyone In the 1871 census my husband's great grandfather is listed as an inmate of Gem Street Industrial School. I am visiting Birmingham later this month and wonder if the school building is still standing? Cheers Tam