Hi As per my original reply I wouldn't there would be too much in it mileage wise between the likes of Blackpool, Barmouth, Rhyl and Weston Super Mare (depends of which side of Brum you live/lived). Now there's an interesting question (1) "as the crow flies" which is the neaest seaside resort from Birmingham city centre? (2) by road which is the nearest resort to Birmingham city centre and what are the mileages?  Cheers "it's what's in the grooves that counts" ----- Original Message ---- > From: Barb Stacey <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008 11:47:19 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Days Out from B'ham 1814 > > > Hi Chris, > > I remember my mother, who was born in 190,  telling me that the North Wales > resorts of Rhyl, Aberystwyth & Llandudno were popular day trip destinations > when she was a child, being probably the nearest seaside places to > Birmingham.  Seems strange nowadays, but hers was the first generation of > her Warwickshire family to have seen the sea. All her parents and some of > her siblings ever knew of it was from books and post cards. > > Barb > > >> My question is; Does anyone know which seaside places were popular and in > > reach for a day trip from Birmingham in 1914?  I am trying to work out > > where > > my grandmother and her brother were that day.  I seem to recall her saying > > that they went on a "charabanc" but can't be sure about that. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Chris > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > giving your contact details?  Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris, I remember my mother, who was born in 190, telling me that the North Wales resorts of Rhyl, Aberystwyth & Llandudno were popular day trip destinations when she was a child, being probably the nearest seaside places to Birmingham. Seems strange nowadays, but hers was the first generation of her Warwickshire family to have seen the sea. All her parents and some of her siblings ever knew of it was from books and post cards. Barb >> My question is; Does anyone know which seaside places were popular and in > reach for a day trip from Birmingham in 1914? I am trying to work out > where > my grandmother and her brother were that day. I seem to recall her saying > that they went on a "charabanc" but can't be sure about that. > > Thanks in advance, > Chris

hi a charabanc is today a coach, so it must have been a coach trip, the most likely place people went to is WESTON SUPER MARE , it was the most popular place visited, by midlanders, if you google charabanc, google images will bring a few up sue -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2048 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi Chris, I suggest either Weston-super-Mare to the South, or one of the Welsh resorts like Llandudno, or Aberestwyth. Regards, Jean 2008/7/14 Graham Cole <[email protected]>: > > > Hi All, > > I wonder if anyone can narrow my search. > > I have a small pottery house bought by my grandmother for her mother. The > house itself I don't think has a monetary value but it was purchased while > on a day trip to the seaside on the day WW1 broke out. The house has been > kept in memory of her elder brother because he helped to choose the gift > and > this was the last day the family saw him. Being a soldier he had to leave > immediately for the front > > My question is; Does anyone know which seaside places were popular and in > reach for a day trip from Birmingham in 1914? I am trying to work out > where > my grandmother and her brother were that day. I seem to recall her saying > that they went on a "charabanc" but can't be sure about that. > > Thanks in advance, > Chris > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --

I think Wales was popular as it was probably relatively easy to reach J Graham Cole <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All, I wonder if anyone can narrow my search. I have a small pottery house bought by my grandmother for her mother. The house itself I don't think has a monetary value but it was purchased while on a day trip to the seaside on the day WW1 broke out. The house has been kept in memory of her elder brother because he helped to choose the gift and this was the last day the family saw him. Being a soldier he had to leave immediately for the front My question is; Does anyone know which seaside places were popular and in reach for a day trip from Birmingham in 1914? I am trying to work out where my grandmother and her brother were that day. I seem to recall her saying that they went on a "charabanc" but can't be sure about that. Thanks in advance, Chris _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. Chris My memories of early thirties would suggest the main destinations from B'Ham were either of the two nearest places to the seaside Rhyl in North Wales and Weston super Mare in Somerset. About 105-110 Miles. `1914 possibly a bit early to drive some 230 or so miles in a day either for speed or reliability. Guesswork of Course! Bob -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1050 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hello Regarding your Tuckleys My cousin has a whole range of them and i wonder if any of them belong to you If you could let me have your email address I will forward an email he has sent to meshirley swinnerton> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:52:30 +0100> Subject: [B'ham] Tuckley> > Hi list> > I've noticed that I have a gap in one of my Tuckley families on the 1871> census. I have them from 1841 to 1901, but not this particular bunch of> Tuckleys! I wonder if any of you can find them for me? Please note, when> you are looking, there is another bunch of Tuckleys with similar names in> the 1871 but they are born in Derby and living in Birmingham, and I'm not> after them.> > John b 1831 Birmingham> Emma b 1831 Birmingham> Mary Ann b 1857 Aston> Emma b 1861 Aston> Selina b 1863 Birmingham> Susan b 1864 Birmingham> John Thomas b 1869 Birmingham> George b 1870 Birmingham> > I spent a large part of Saturday night searching for them to no avail on> Ancestry, but perhaps someone out there may have some better search> techniques than I do!> > Cheers> > -- > Chris Pampling> > researching:> > > > BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER> > all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day> > PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present> > VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present> _____________________________________________> _____________________________________________> > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem.> > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected]> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ 100’s of Nikon cameras to be won with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719808/direct/01/

Hi Chris I can only speak for our family in the 50s but it was always Rhyl! Dave On 14 Jul 2008, at 17:55, Graham Cole wrote: Hi All, I wonder if anyone can narrow my search. I have a small pottery house bought by my grandmother for her mother. The house itself I don't think has a monetary value but it was purchased while on a day trip to the seaside on the day WW1 broke out. The house has been kept in memory of her elder brother because he helped to choose the gift and this was the last day the family saw him. Being a soldier he had to leave immediately for the front My question is; Does anyone know which seaside places were popular and in reach for a day trip from Birmingham in 1914? I am trying to work out where my grandmother and her brother were that day. I seem to recall her saying that they went on a "charabanc" but can't be sure about that. Thanks in advance, Chris _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi to List & Attn Chris ,,, most popular "Seaside venue" favoured by Brummies 1914 era & present Most probable would be Weston Super Mare,,then probable Blackpool, Cheers & good luck JohnY

Hello Most likely 3 would be Blackpool, Weston Super Mare and Rhyl, I think I'm correct in suggesting that these were the three main holiday haunts for working class Brummies.  Cheers "it's what's in the grooves that counts" ----- Original Message ---- > From: Graham Cole <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, 14 July, 2008 5:55:31 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Days Out from B'ham 1814 > > > > Hi All, > > I wonder if anyone can narrow my search.  > > I have a small pottery house bought by my grandmother for her mother.  The > house itself I don't think has a monetary value but it was purchased while > on a day trip to the seaside on the day WW1 broke out.  The house has been > kept in memory of her elder brother because he helped to choose the gift and > this was the last day the family saw him.  Being a soldier he had to leave > immediately for the front > > My question is; Does anyone know which seaside places were popular and in > reach for a day trip from Birmingham in 1914?  I am trying to work out where > my grandmother and her brother were that day.  I seem to recall her saying > that they went on a "charabanc" but can't be sure about that. > > Thanks in advance, > Chris > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > giving your contact details?  Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I wonder if anyone can narrow my search. I have a small pottery house bought by my grandmother for her mother. The house itself I don't think has a monetary value but it was purchased while on a day trip to the seaside on the day WW1 broke out. The house has been kept in memory of her elder brother because he helped to choose the gift and this was the last day the family saw him. Being a soldier he had to leave immediately for the front My question is; Does anyone know which seaside places were popular and in reach for a day trip from Birmingham in 1914? I am trying to work out where my grandmother and her brother were that day. I seem to recall her saying that they went on a "charabanc" but can't be sure about that. Thanks in advance, Chris

Hi, I am a klutz from Qld, Oz. I thought they were mobile and worked from place to place too.... robyndehood.At 05:01 AM 14/07/2008, you wrote: >Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? >I thought journeyman meant that they were >"mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot from Ladywood! > > Cheers > > >"it's what's in the grooves that counts" > > >----- Original Message ---- > > From: sue <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > > > journeyman > > A man who served his apprenticeship in a > trade and worked as a fully qualified > > employee. The term originated in the > regulations of the medieval trade guilds; > > it derives from the French journée... > > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > > > > sue > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > _____________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Have you considered adding "postems" to > "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > > giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" >events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your >contact details? Other researchers will then be >able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to >[email protected] with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to Mike and Paul for their help. Looking at the enumerator's handwriting for the surname it's a wonder it got indexed as anything! -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Chris: They're mis-indexed as TUCKEY. I found them by searching for John, no surname, born 1831 +/-5, wife Emma, living in Birmingham. This gives only 96 families, and TUCKEY is the obvious one. Best wishes Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: [B'ham] Tuckley > Hi list > > I've noticed that I have a gap in one of my Tuckley families on the 1871 > census. I have them from 1841 to 1901, but not this particular bunch of > Tuckleys! I wonder if any of you can find them for me? Please note, when > you are looking, there is another bunch of Tuckleys with similar names in > the 1871 but they are born in Derby and living in Birmingham, and I'm not > after them. > > John b 1831 Birmingham > Emma b 1831 Birmingham > Mary Ann b 1857 Aston > Emma b 1861 Aston > Selina b 1863 Birmingham > Susan b 1864 Birmingham > John Thomas b 1869 Birmingham > George b 1870 Birmingham > > I spent a large part of Saturday night searching for them to no avail on > Ancestry, but perhaps someone out there may have some better search > techniques than I do! > > Cheers > > -- > Chris Pampling > > researching: > > > > BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, > MAHER > > all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day > > PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present > > VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

data sent off list Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: [B'ham] Tuckley > Hi list > > I've noticed that I have a gap in one of my Tuckley families on the 1871 > census. I have them from 1841 to 1901, but not this particular bunch of > Tuckleys! I wonder if any of you can find them for me? Please note, when > you are looking, there is another bunch of Tuckleys with similar names in > the 1871 but they are born in Derby and living in Birmingham, and I'm not > after them. > > John b 1831 Birmingham > Emma b 1831 Birmingham > Mary Ann b 1857 Aston > Emma b 1861 Aston > Selina b 1863 Birmingham > Susan b 1864 Birmingham > John Thomas b 1869 Birmingham > George b 1870 Birmingham > > I spent a large part of Saturday night searching for them to no avail on > Ancestry, but perhaps someone out there may have some better search > techniques than I do! > > Cheers > > -- > Chris Pampling > > researching: > > > > BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, > MAHER > > all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day > > PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present > > VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi list I've noticed that I have a gap in one of my Tuckley families on the 1871 census. I have them from 1841 to 1901, but not this particular bunch of Tuckleys! I wonder if any of you can find them for me? Please note, when you are looking, there is another bunch of Tuckleys with similar names in the 1871 but they are born in Derby and living in Birmingham, and I'm not after them. John b 1831 Birmingham Emma b 1831 Birmingham Mary Ann b 1857 Aston Emma b 1861 Aston Selina b 1863 Birmingham Susan b 1864 Birmingham John Thomas b 1869 Birmingham George b 1870 Birmingham I spent a large part of Saturday night searching for them to no avail on Ancestry, but perhaps someone out there may have some better search techniques than I do! Cheers -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

don't worry, that's what I thought although the explanation, now I know it, is logical Jane Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, I am a klutz from Qld, Oz. I thought they were mobile and worked from place to place too.... robyndehood.At 05:01 AM 14/07/2008, you wrote: >Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? >I thought journeyman meant that they were >"mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot from Ladywood! > > Cheers > > >"it's what's in the grooves that counts" > > >----- Original Message ---- > > From: sue > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > > > journeyman > > A man who served his apprenticeship in a > trade and worked as a fully qualified > > employee. The term originated in the > regulations of the medieval trade guilds; > > it derives from the French journée... > > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > > > > sue > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > _____________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Have you considered adding "postems" to > "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > > giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" >events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your >contact details? Other researchers will then be >able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to >[email protected] with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A journeyman is someone who has already served an apprenticeship in a particular trade and passed the necessary trade test. In other words, he is a qualified fitter, brass founder, boiler maker, electrician etc. We could do with some electrician journeymen, or, better still, masters, in South Africa to sort out our power problems! Regards, Jean in cold Johannesburg 2008/7/13 Paul Gebhard <[email protected]>: > Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? > I thought journeyman meant that they were "mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot > from Ladywood! > > Cheers > > > "it's what's in the grooves that counts" > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: sue <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > > > journeyman > > A man who served his apprenticeship in a trade and worked as a fully > qualified > > employee. The term originated in the regulations of the medieval trade > guilds; > > it derives from the French journée... > > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > > > > sue > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > _____________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , > > giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

We could do with some journeymen cricketers at Lords this morning!  Cheers "it's what's in the grooves that counts" ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jean Collen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, 14 July, 2008 9:12:49 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] journeyman > > A journeyman is someone who has already served an apprenticeship in a > particular trade and passed the necessary trade test. In other words, he is > a qualified fitter, brass founder, boiler maker, electrician etc. We could > do with some electrician journeymen, or, better still, masters, in South > Africa to sort out our power problems! > > Regards, > Jean in cold Johannesburg > > 2008/7/13 Paul Gebhard : > > > Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? > > I thought journeyman meant that they were "mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot > > from Ladywood! > > > >  Cheers > > > > > > "it's what's in the grooves that counts" > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: sue > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > > > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > > > > > journeyman > > > A man who served his apprenticeship in a trade and worked as a fully > > qualified > > > employee. The term originated in the regulations of the medieval trade > > guilds; > > > it derives from the French journée... > > > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > > > > > >                        sue > > > > > > -- > > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > _____________________________________________ > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > > www.freebmd.org.uk , > > > giving your contact details?  Other researchers will then be able to make > > > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > >  _____________________________________________ > > > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details?  Other researchers will > > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > giving your contact details?  Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Because they were NOT apprentices! Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Gebhard Sent: 13 July 2008 20:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B'ham] journeyman Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? I thought journeyman meant that they were "mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot from Ladywood!  Cheers "it's what's in the grooves that counts" ----- Original Message ---- > From: sue <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > journeyman > A man who served his apprenticeship in a trade and worked as a fully qualified > employee. The term originated in the regulations of the medieval trade guilds; > it derives from the French journée... > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > >                         sue > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > giving your contact details?  Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: 12/07/2008 16:31