Hello I wrote to this group sometime ago to ask for help with this person. Someone replied to me and said she had found info but it was complicated so she was typing it up and emailing separately. Unfortunately all the stuff I had on my computer has been lost and I would very much appreciate it if the lady who replied then would do so again. My info: ALBERT EDWARD COOK (MY GT GRANDFATHER) FATHER OF FLORENCE COOK WHOSE WEDDING HE ATTENDED DECEMBER 25 1910.ALSO FATHER OF ELSIE AND WINNIE. I NEED TO FIND ALBERTS BIRTHDATE AND MARRIAGE. PLEASE CAN ANYONE HELP THANK YOU SHIRLEYshirley swinnerton _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/

Hi, Have you considered that the couple might not have been married when the child was born? I have Australian ancestors who, on each of their childrens' birth registrations, gave a different date & place of marriage, sometimes in England and sometimes in Melbourne. I eventually found that they married in a registrars office when she was pregnant with her 11th child (even on that child's birth registration they lied about their marriage date & place!). Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "rickaby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: [B'ham] STEVENS/LOMAS Marriage > I contacted the Queensland BDM and they have informed me that the marriage > of my relative's parents, Henry STEVENS & Annie LOMAS took place on 15 Aug > 1899 in Birmingham Warwickshire England.

Dear Val, It sounds unusual for Qld BDM to give out that information unless you actually bought the certificate. I recently purchased a birth certificate from them and was shocked when it finally arrived (after an 8 week wait and several reminder emails) to find that on the cert the child's three older siblings had been recorded as deceased. As I have a photograph of these children I decided to investigate further and could find no record in NSW or Qld of their deaths. I then found two of the three older children were alive and kicking in a later years electoral roll. The local history group at Herbert, North Qld, where they lived, is now doing a search of their records for me. I can't think of any reason a mother would state that her three children had died if they hadn't. so believe this is a transcription error. Hope this helps, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "rickaby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] STEVENS/LOMAS Marriage > Thank you Hilary, > I have had no luck searching the Free BDM or LDS. This particular family > has been a real headache and I won't go into details but I wonder if I > should just accept what information has been given and move on. > regards > Val > On a magnificent day in South East Queensland. Wall to wall blue. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hilary Thomas" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] STEVENS/LOMAS Marriage > > >> Hi Val >> >> I have searched the GRO index on Ancestry for the years 1898 - 1900, >> September Quarter but have found no marriage for a Hanry STEVENS to >> Annie >> LOMAS in this period. >> >> I hope this may be of some use to you. >> >> Regards >> Hilary >> >> > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Hilary, I have had no luck searching the Free BDM or LDS. This particular family has been a real headache and I won't go into details but I wonder if I should just accept what information has been given and move on. regards Val On a magnificent day in South East Queensland. Wall to wall blue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Thomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] STEVENS/LOMAS Marriage > Hi Val > > I have searched the GRO index on Ancestry for the years 1898 - 1900, > September Quarter but have found no marriage for a Hanry STEVENS to Annie > LOMAS in this period. > > I hope this may be of some use to you. > > Regards > Hilary > >

Hi Velda, Just want to thank you for mentioning that when a time of birth is entered on a birth certificate it usually indicates a multiple birth. I had such a certificate but had no idea of the significance of the time of birth being mentioned (stupidly thought it was a quirk of the registrar!). I've now found, through FreeBMD, the birth and death of the twin in the same Quarter. He was never named, just entered as 'Male', so am I right to assume that he died during the three days between birth and registration? It seems so sad that he wasn't even given a name! Thanks again Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velda Hampton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birth Certificate > Hi Reg > Was there a time of birth entered on the birth certificate? This usually > indicated that the child was one of a multiple birth. > > Velda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reg Wesson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:28 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Birth Certificate > > >>I recently ordered a Birth Certificate which shows the name of the child >>and under the Sex it shows "Boy >> Male >> 2" >> with a note to the left of the Certificate showing the word "Two" with >> initials. >> Could one presume that this was twins? >> Thanks >> Reg >> Burlington >> Ontario > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 13/08/2008 > 16:14 > >

No mention of time on the certificate. Reg W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velda Hampton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birth Certificate > Hi Reg > Was there a time of birth entered on the birth certificate? This usually > indicated that the child was one of a multiple birth. > > Velda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reg Wesson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:28 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Birth Certificate > > >>I recently ordered a Birth Certificate which shows the name of the child >>and under the Sex it shows "Boy >> Male >> 2" >> with a note to the left of the Certificate showing the word "Two" with >> initials. >> Could one presume that this was twins? >> Thanks >> Reg >> Burlington >> Ontario > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

No, I don't think so as my father and grandparents were in Canada at that time. I am not sure where any of my grandfather's siblings were living at that time. (My father was an only child) Reg W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth William Bibb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birth Certificate > Reg, > I was wondering did you have any relations living in Greenhill Road > Handsworth Birmingham in the 1930's to 1950's? > > Ken B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reg Wesson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:28 AM > Subject: [B'ham] Birth Certificate > > >>I recently ordered a Birth Certificate which shows the name of the child >>and under the Sex it shows "Boy >> Male >> 2" >> with a note to the left of the Certificate showing the word "Two" with >> initials. >> Could one presume that this was twins? >> Thanks >> Reg >> Burlington >> Ontario >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on >> www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will >> then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your >> postem. >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: >> 13/08/2008 >> 4:14 PM >> >> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 13/08/2008 > 4:14 PM > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

No, not necessarily. If there were twins, it usually gives the exact time of birth ( to show which is the elder) A number plus initials usually means there has been an amendment or correction of a mistake in the register. All such have to be numbered and recorded. HTH Anne On 13 Aug 2008, at 22:28, Reg Wesson wrote: > I recently ordered a Birth Certificate which shows the name of the > child and under the Sex it shows "Boy > Male > 2" > with a note to the left of the Certificate showing the word "Two" > with initials. > Could one presume that this was twins? > Thanks > Reg > Burlington > Ontario

Reg, I was wondering did you have any relations living in Greenhill Road Handsworth Birmingham in the 1930's to 1950's? Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Wesson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:28 AM Subject: [B'ham] Birth Certificate >I recently ordered a Birth Certificate which shows the name of the child >and under the Sex it shows "Boy > Male > 2" > with a note to the left of the Certificate showing the word "Two" with > initials. > Could one presume that this was twins? > Thanks > Reg > Burlington > Ontario > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 13/08/2008 > 4:14 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1610 - Release Date: 13/08/2008 4:14 PM

Hi Val I have searched the GRO index on Ancestry for the years 1898 - 1900, September Quarter but have found no marriage for a Hanry STEVENS to Annie LOMAS in this period. I hope this may be of some use to you. Regards Hilary

Hi Reg Was there a time of birth entered on the birth certificate? This usually indicated that the child was one of a multiple birth. Velda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Wesson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:28 PM Subject: [B'ham] Birth Certificate >I recently ordered a Birth Certificate which shows the name of the child >and under the Sex it shows "Boy > Male > 2" > with a note to the left of the Certificate showing the word "Two" with > initials. > Could one presume that this was twins? > Thanks > Reg > Burlington > Ontario

Thank you Jan, It would have been the couple that gave the information when they registered the birth of the child. Not altogether reliable. What is that folk say "Don't trust anything on a birth, death or marriage certificate until you check it." Val ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] STEVENS/LOMAS Marriage > Dear Val, > I would go back to Qld bdm and ask the source of the > information about the couple's marriage in England. > Jan >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on >> www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will >> then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your >> postem. >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >

I recently ordered a Birth Certificate which shows the name of the child and under the Sex it shows "Boy Male 2" with a note to the left of the Certificate showing the word "Two" with initials. Could one presume that this was twins? Thanks Reg Burlington Ontario

Dear Val, I would go back to Qld bdm and ask the source of the information about the couple's marriage in England. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "rickaby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: [B'ham] STEVENS/LOMAS Marriage > Hi Listers > I am new to this list and I am wondering if any one can help me knock down > a > brick wall. > > My relative was born in Queensland but the birth certificate does not > contain the parents marriage details. > I contacted the Queensland BDM and they have informed me that the marriage > of my relative's parents, Henry STEVENS & Annie LOMAS took place on 15 Aug > 1899 in Birmingham Warwickshire England. > That is all the details I have and I know Birmingham is a big place. > > I have all but one child of this couple. Her name was Frances STEVENS > born > c1899/1900 and I believe that she was born in England. > > I have checked the Free BDM for the marriage with no luck and there are > too > many 'Frances Stevens" to be sure I have the correct one. > > Are there any searchable web sites for this area or where do I go from > here? > > regards > Val > in OZ > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers I am new to this list and I am wondering if any one can help me knock down a brick wall. My relative was born in Queensland but the birth certificate does not contain the parents marriage details. I contacted the Queensland BDM and they have informed me that the marriage of my relative's parents, Henry STEVENS & Annie LOMAS took place on 15 Aug 1899 in Birmingham Warwickshire England. That is all the details I have and I know Birmingham is a big place. I have all but one child of this couple. Her name was Frances STEVENS born c1899/1900 and I believe that she was born in England. I have checked the Free BDM for the marriage with no luck and there are too many 'Frances Stevens" to be sure I have the correct one. Are there any searchable web sites for this area or where do I go from here? regards Val in OZ

In the Dec quarter of 1905 Edward VEASEY married Marjorie Winifrede HEYDON (Aston 6d 760) Edward was born 1881 Q1 (Birmingham 6d 143) There are several possible offspring listed on FreeBMD but I am reluctant to send for certificates for all of them on the off chance. Does anyone already know of this couple and any children? TIA Peter

Reg - > Wendy, could you please explain to me what Flickr is and can I from Canada > load pictures? Put the word Flickr into a search engine like Google to get to it. Or go straight to www.flickr.com . Anyone can upload photos to it - it's very friendly to help you do it - to show folks. And you can add tags - labels - to the photos, so you can then search the site by tag word. You do have to register, but there's no charge. So to explore it, search by, say, Birmingham canal or Birmingham church. http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=birmingham+church&m=text is a direct link to the search I did for Birmingham churches - then, clicking on one person's collection led me to a Birmingham collection http://www.flickr.com/photos/holymoor/page5/ - and so on ! So you can upload an album, just as Holymoor has, for folks to browse, and to comment on. Wendy

Wendy, could you please explain to me what Flickr is and can I from Canada load pictures? Thanks Reg Wesson Burlington Ontario. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Archer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Photoraph of Football teams > Eve - > > a postcard of two Football teams, on the front >> row , sitting down here are a lady and two gentlemen and two members of >> each >> team. Two rows standing behind them has the rest of the teams and four >> more >> gentlemen. >> The photograph was taken by Arthur Louis of 217 Gooch >> Street.Birmingham. >> I don't think it is in order to send the photograph to the >> list, but if anyone has any ideas I can send a copy of the photograph off >> list. > > Welcome to the B'ham list. You'll have some webspace with your BTinternet > account, but you might find it easier to upload your photo to Flickr. If > you do so, please post the URL to the list, and we can have a go for you! > > Wendy > B'ham List Admin > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Chris. I'll give them a try. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] ONIONS > Hi Jan, > > I don't know if St. Thomas-in-the-moor is on line. You could try the > links > below. There are records there for St. Thomas but I don't know if it is > the > same one. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers > /CountyWarwick_(A-M).htm#B > > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#searchType=standard;surnam > e=Onions;p=1 > > The original registers are held in Birmingham City Library and go up to > about 1955. > > Good luck, > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > > Thanks, Chris. Can I access those online? > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > >> Hi Jan, >> >> I've no idea if this will be of any use to you at all: There are ONIONS >> in >> the registers of St. Thomas-in-the-moor, Balsall Heath, Birmingham, >> Worcs. >> >> Chris >> > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jan, I don't know if St. Thomas-in-the-moor is on line. You could try the links below. There are records there for St. Thomas but I don't know if it is the same one. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers /CountyWarwick_(A-M).htm#B http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#searchType=standard;surnam e=Onions;p=1 The original registers are held in Birmingham City Library and go up to about 1955. Good luck, Chris -----Original Message----- Thanks, Chris. Can I access those online? Jan ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Jan, > > I've no idea if this will be of any use to you at all: There are ONIONS in > the registers of St. Thomas-in-the-moor, Balsall Heath, Birmingham, Worcs. > > Chris >