Hello Anne, (and everyone on the list) Thank you for the 1851 details on the three Law families. I have their 1841 details but not these. It has helped fill in a few details - the ones from Smales that is. The one from Lanebottom I'm still working on but I don't think he belongs to me. Funny it says he is a rag and bone dealer in 1851. In 1841 he was "independent means". Definitely the same family!! Probably a bit of a Steptoe and Son!! Best wishes, Linda Linda.Briggs1@btinternet.com