Kristen den Hartog wrote: > Hello list, > In trying to track a couple of my relatives who were in and out of asylums > and workhouse infirmaries, I have come across their "case paper numbers." > I'm wondering if anyone knows how these were issued, and by whom. Were they > only for people who were ill, or were they given to workhouse residents as > well? Once a person was issued a case paper number, did that same number > follow them throughout their lives, if they were admitted and discharged at > different institutions over a period of years? My g-grandmother spent time > in Newington and Lambeth infirmaries, and died in Cane Hill; her sister was > at Stone Asylum and Newington. Their numbers are 6514 and 25818, so can I > assume there is some rhyme and reason to the numbering and therefore their > original admissions (which I've yet to find) are quite some time apart? > I'd appreciate hearing your ideas. Hallo I do not think the numbers swent with them like a modern hospital or medialc numer would. I think it is possible they might have had the asme number if they were in he smae asylum or infirmaty. I think a patient or inmate would have been fgiven then ext number on the lsit when they were admiteed if they were new. If you saw the case papers for each admissiin uou might see a reasol. Can you get the papers? Jean Hunter Kent

Thank you Jean. I have made a bit of progress since I first posted this question. I know that my great grandmother had the same case number at Newington, Lambeth and Cane Hill; and I have found a series of records listed at the LMA, organized by case number and date (unfortunately the volume that would have contained hers is missing!), which helps me figure out when hers would have been first issued. I've also found some settlement examinations on Ancestry that show case numbers, and so I suspect hers was issued by the Southwark Union Board of Guardians. I think each institution would have been given a batch of numbers to use for patients, and it would just cycle on that way as the numbers got assigned. My g-grandmother's sister was at Stone Asylum much earlier, and as far as I can tell, the case books for her years there are available to view at the LMA, which I am very excited to do in the fall, when I travel to England. But what a tangle it is, going through all these catalogues and figuring out what is where! Kristen -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Hunter Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:52 AM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] the mathematics of case paper numbers Kristen den Hartog wrote: > Hello list, > In trying to track a couple of my relatives who were in and out of > asylums and workhouse infirmaries, I have come across their "case paper numbers." > I'm wondering if anyone knows how these were issued, and by whom. Were > they only for people who were ill, or were they given to workhouse > residents as well? Once a person was issued a case paper number, did > that same number follow them throughout their lives, if they were > admitted and discharged at different institutions over a period of > years? My g-grandmother spent time in Newington and Lambeth > infirmaries, and died in Cane Hill; her sister was at Stone Asylum and > Newington. Their numbers are 6514 and 25818, so can I assume there is > some rhyme and reason to the numbering and therefore their original admissions (which I've yet to find) are quite some time apart? > I'd appreciate hearing your ideas. Hallo I do not think the numbers swent with them like a modern hospital or medialc numer would. I think it is possible they might have had the asme number if they were in he smae asylum or infirmaty. I think a patient or inmate would have been fgiven then ext number on the lsit when they were admiteed if they were new. If you saw the case papers for each admissiin uou might see a reasol. Can you get the papers? Jean Hunter Kent *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5262 - Release Date: 09/11/12

From a workhouse site, I can't remember which one.  I discovered that the information I required was now held at a branch of a nearby hospital.  The workhouse was Gordon Road, Peckham and the hospital was Kings College Camberwell. Any way, I wrote and explained what I was looking for, and they sent me ________________________________ From: Jean Hunter <jean.e.hunter26@gmail.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012, 7:51 Subject: Re: [SRY] the mathematics of case paper numbers Kristen den Hartog wrote: > Hello list, > In trying to track a couple of my relatives who were in and out of asylums > and workhouse infirmaries, I have come across their "case paper numbers." > I'm wondering if anyone knows how these were issued, and by whom. Were they > only for people who were ill, or were they given to workhouse residents as > well? Once a person was issued a case paper number, did that same number > follow them throughout their lives, if they were admitted and discharged at > different institutions over a period of years? My g-grandmother spent time > in Newington and Lambeth infirmaries, and died in Cane Hill; her sister was > at Stone Asylum and Newington. Their numbers are 6514 and 25818, so can I > assume there is some rhyme and reason to the numbering and therefore their > original admissions (which I've yet to find) are quite some time apart? > I'd appreciate hearing your ideas. Hallo I do not think the numbers swent with them like a modern hospital or medialc numer would.  I think it is possible they might have had the asme number if they were in he smae asylum or infirmaty.  I think a patient or inmate would have been fgiven then ext number on the lsit when they were admiteed if they were new.  If you saw the case papers for each admissiin uou might see a reasol.  Can you get the papers? Jean Hunter Kent *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message