The death record for my paternal great grandfather is the biggest gap in my tree, so I would be grateful if anyone has the time to try to find him. John Alexander Pearse was born in St Clement Dane in 1850 (recorded under the name Chanler - don't ask, and it is not relevant to this quest). He married Rose Alice Mayston in 1873 and had 4 children, the last being my grandfather William Mayston Pearse in 1884. The family is recorded in the 1881 census in Southwark, south London (John Alexander being erroneously recorded by the enumerator as PERARSE, the rest as Pearse).  He was an out of work waiter. By 1888 his wife was living with another man, Thomas Henry Wright, having a child by him that year, and calling herself his wife in 1891 and 1901. Rose Alice married Thomas Henry Wright in 1904, when she called herself a widow. I can find no record of John Alexander Pearse between 1884 (on the BC of my grandfather) and 1904. I have tried the likely looking Pearse and Pearce death records between those dates. Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated - and a bottle of champagne (or something equivalent) if anyone can actually find him for me! Thank you Lawrence Pearse > Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:03:06 +0000 > From: charani.b@gmail.com > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SRY] Bringing home the lost and strayed > > Season's greeting to all whether you have been celebrating Hanukkah or > are celebrating Christmas, Kwanzaa, Saturnalia or another fesitval. > > All of us have ancestors we cannot find, who've strayed or otherwise > become lost. So, from now until New Year's Day, post the names and > last known location, together with any other information you are sure > of, to give others a chance to try to find your missing ancestors. > > These lost and strayed souls do NOT have to be from our area. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My mysterious lost one is the only child of my Alfred John Bennett & Catherine Avery, baptised at St. Anne Soho, Westminster 1891 and last found on the 1911 census living with her father and step-mother Catherine at "The Orchard" Sandel Road, New Malden, Surrey. She was Mary Catherine Bennett, occupation shown to be Millinery showroom. She is not mentioned in either of the wills of her father or step-mother in the 1940s, so one would assume she had died early, but did she? Did she marry some-time after 1911? The problem is there are too many Mary Bennetts getting married around that time. One also wonders what, exactly, was "The Orchard," in Sandel Road? Google map doesn't seem to help much. They appear to be reasonable size properties in Sandel Road, with lots of vegetation, so one again assumes a house with lots of fruit trees at the rear. Well, New Year is rapidly approaching, so all the very best to everyone on the list, with a heart-felt urge to wish you great researching in 2013, that your brick walls may turn into gold dust. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Hi Graham the maps on the GENUKI gazetteer here: http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/maplink?CCC=SRY,GR=TQ2106068030 give some hints on the location of "The Orchard". In particular the Old-Maps. The 1897 1:2500 has Ravenhurst on the corner with Westbury Road, with a sweep onto the latter. By 1913 this is unnamed with an orchard along its eastern boundary. By 1935 the orchard is gone and has a semi in place. The western half seems to be the principal part, and *might* be called "The Orchard". Given that your chap was there around 1910, the 1910 finance act stuff sd give useful details. I am happy to have a look next time I go to the National Archives, Kew (visits very spasmodic). Your property sd show on IR 121/18/23 Surrey XIII.1 (13.1) The current situation is shown on Elgin. Unfortunately you need the parameters and the old version. In the Genuki gazetteer select Elgin, and when the map of the whole country comes up, insert "V5." (without the quotes) at the beginning of the address window. My guess outlined above is number 26. You will see that the southern side of the road is all gone to a school. There are alternatives with bits of orchard on the southern side in the 1913 map. I suspect that they haven't necessarily gone in 1935. It may well be reduced detailing. Doubts have been cast on the dating of these maps. It may be the date given is publication rather than survey or lithography date. Chris Willis in Yateley, Hants ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Price" <genetree@tpg.com.au> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] Bringing home the lost and strayed > My mysterious lost one is the only child of my Alfred John Bennett & > Catherine Avery, baptised at St. Anne Soho, Westminster 1891 and last > found on the 1911 census living with her father and step-mother > Catherine at "The Orchard" Sandel Road, New Malden, Surrey. <snip> > Cheers > Graham > Melbourne > Oz

Graham, and Chris, At the risk of throwing a spanner in the works, the address given for the BENNETT family in 1911 appears to be 'Lynmouth', Lynton Road, New Malden (a private house). RG14/3525 SN141 HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Willis Sent: 28 December 2012 13:53 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Bringing home the lost and strayed - BENNETT - Malden Hi Graham the maps on the GENUKI gazetteer here: http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/maplink?CCC=SRY,GR=TQ2106068030 give some hints on the location of "The Orchard". In particular the Old-Maps. The 1897 1:2500 has Ravenhurst on the corner with Westbury Road, with a sweep onto the latter. By 1913 this is unnamed with an orchard along its eastern boundary. By 1935 the orchard is gone and has a semi in place. The western half seems to be the principal part, and *might* be called "The Orchard". Given that your chap was there around 1910, the 1910 finance act stuff sd give useful details. I am happy to have a look next time I go to the National Archives, Kew (visits very spasmodic). Your property sd show on IR 121/18/23 Surrey XIII.1 (13.1) The current situation is shown on Elgin. Unfortunately you need the parameters and the old version. In the Genuki gazetteer select Elgin, and when the map of the whole country comes up, insert "V5." (without the quotes) at the beginning of the address window. My guess outlined above is number 26. You will see that the southern side of the road is all gone to a school. There are alternatives with bits of orchard on the southern side in the 1913 map. I suspect that they haven't necessarily gone in 1935. It may well be reduced detailing. Doubts have been cast on the dating of these maps. It may be the date given is publication rather than survey or lithography date. Chris Willis in Yateley, Hants ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Price" <genetree@tpg.com.au> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] Bringing home the lost and strayed > My mysterious lost one is the only child of my Alfred John Bennett & > Catherine Avery, baptised at St. Anne Soho, Westminster 1891 and last > found on the 1911 census living with her father and step-mother > Catherine at "The Orchard" Sandel Road, New Malden, Surrey. <snip> > Cheers > Graham > Melbourne > Oz

Please tell me if I've misunderstood, but I'm looking for my ggggrandpa, Samuel Drummer/Drummond/Dummer, etc. He d. Samuel Drummond, 1850 St. Mary's, Lambeth (thanks Neville!). He was born in Mdx. abt 1801. The weird thing is, I can't find his birth/christening information. Does anyone have any idea how I could find it? I've looked in Surrey, Middl or esex, and all the other counties. He was a brick maker, so I've considered that he might also have come from Germany,since Drummer is German as well. Just hoping that maybe sks can help me with this brick wall (weak pun intended :-/ Thanks! Nancy Merrill Sayed