Dear Nivard Once again thank you for listing this parish's Streatham occurrences on Ancestry's London pre-1812 section. As part of our ongoing project to index these parish registers, Streatham baptisms 1754-69 will be on the new edition of the West Surrey FHS CD 'Surrey Baptisms not in the IGI' to be issued in November this year. 1769-99 is in an advanced stage and only needs some final checks so should be in the 2010 edition. Regards Cliff Webb Cliff Webb Director Rattner Mackenzie Limited A subsidiary of HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc. Mailto:cwebb@rmluk.com Tel: +44 20 7480 5511 This e-mail contains confidential information, and may contain privileged information, which is the property of the sender, and is intended solely for the attention and use of the addressee. If you are not the named addressee, you must not disclose, copy or retransmit this transmission or take any other action in reliance upon this transmission, and you should notify us as soon as possible. Rattner Mackenzie Limited is authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority / registered in England & Wales No.: 02303498, with registered office: Walsingham House, 35 Seething Lane, London EC3N 4AH. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Hi Listers, I am looking for some opinions and advice - possibly links to reliable reference sources too.  I am not going to mention any names, but I want to fathom out the question of a child born out of wedlock. Recently, I contacted an unknown relative through marriage.  It turns out that his grandmother had a son fathered by a soldier whom she met, but never married.  The soldier died in WW1.  Grandmother left her son on the doorstep of her own grandparents.  The grandparents placed the child in the care of a paid lady - possibly a child minder.  The mother emigrated to Canada about 6 months after the birth of her son.  The mother was met in the UK by her sister and brother-in-law who came over from Canada for her. OK.  End of story.  My questions are:- 1.  How common were out-of-wedlock births to soldiers? 2.  What was the attitude towards illegitimacy - and was there any particular stigma attached to military offspring? 3.  How would the parents of a family treat the illegitimate child? 4.  Would social standing - real or perceived - affect how the family would deal with the situation? My relatives and I have good ideas as to how these situations were dealt with.  Pre WW1 attitudes would have been prim ans strict with such affairs covered up.  I think even Queen Victoria's family had an illegitimate child somewhere.  I also think that within a family the mother of an illegitimate child would be hidden, or sent away in the latter stages of her pregnancy - to maintain the shell of decency. Certainly Canadian and UK attitudes would have differed, although today the saying is that modern Canadians are more British than the British. Any way help an comments would be much appreciated, you wonderful lot.  Richard Brown Bromley Kent U.K.

Hi Cliff, How can we obtain the cd you mentioned please? Jan in sunny Queensland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Webb, Cliff" <cwebb@rmluk.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] St Leonards Streatham unindexed PRs pre 1813 > Dear Nivard > Once again thank you for listing this parish's Streatham occurrences on > Ancestry's London pre-1812 section. As part of our ongoing project to > index these parish registers, Streatham baptisms 1754-69 will be on the > new edition of the West Surrey FHS CD 'Surrey Baptisms not in the IGI' > to be issued in November this year. 1769-99 is in an advanced stage and > only needs some final checks so should be in the 2010 edition. > Regards > Cliff Webb > > > > Cliff Webb > > Director > Rattner Mackenzie Limited > A subsidiary of HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc. > > Mailto:cwebb@rmluk.com > Tel: +44 20 7480 5511 > > This e-mail contains confidential information, and may contain privileged information, which is the property of the sender, and is intended solely for the attention and use of the addressee. If you are not the named addressee, you must not disclose, copy or retransmit this transmission or take any other action in reliance upon this transmission, and you should notify us as soon as possible. Rattner Mackenzie Limited is authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority / registered in England & Wales No.: 02303498, with registered office: Walsingham House, 35 Seething Lane, London EC3N 4AH. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It will be available from November on West Surrey FHS website Regards Cliff Webb Cliff Webb Director Rattner Mackenzie Limited A subsidiary of HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc. Mailto:cwebb@rmluk.com Tel: +44 20 7480 5511-----Original Message----- From: Neil & Jan Hearn [mailto:neil.hearn3@bigpond.com] Sent: 27 September 2009 08:50 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] St Leonards Streatham unindexed PRs pre 1813 Hi Cliff, How can we obtain the cd you mentioned please? Jan in sunny Queensland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Webb, Cliff" <cwebb@rmluk.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] St Leonards Streatham unindexed PRs pre 1813 > Dear Nivard > Once again thank you for listing this parish's Streatham occurrences on > Ancestry's London pre-1812 section. As part of our ongoing project to > index these parish registers, Streatham baptisms 1754-69 will be on the > new edition of the West Surrey FHS CD 'Surrey Baptisms not in the IGI' > to be issued in November this year. 1769-99 is in an advanced stage and > only needs some final checks so should be in the 2010 edition. > Regards > Cliff Webb > > > > Cliff Webb > > Director > Rattner Mackenzie Limited > A subsidiary of HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc. > > Mailto:cwebb@rmluk.com > Tel: +44 20 7480 5511 > > This e-mail contains confidential information, and may contain privileged information, which is the property of the sender, and is intended solely for the attention and use of the addressee. If you are not the named addressee, you must not disclose, copy or retransmit this transmission or take any other action in reliance upon this transmission, and you should notify us as soon as possible. Rattner Mackenzie Limited is authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority / registered in England & Wales No.: 02303498, with registered office: Walsingham House, 35 Seething Lane, London EC3N 4AH. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________