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    1. Re: [SRY] Ancestry.com and London Metropolitan Archives recordscorrections
    2. David Barber
    3. Cliff I have been doing a blanket search of the marriages for the family CHRISTOPHER. In 500 entries I have found 5% error where the real surname has been omitted e.g. John Christopher Miller has been transcribed as John Christopher. This is not a complaint, I have transcribed myself and know how difficult the task can be, this is still a wonderful resource. What I would like to know is have you found a route for introducing corrections? Regards Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Webb, Cliff" <cwebb@rmluk.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: [SRY] Ancestry.com and London Metropolitan Archives recordscorrections >I am posting this on both Middlesex and Surrey lists, as there is > overlap. I have started analysing the Ancestry digital coverage of > registers. At the moment I am working on the baptisms and burials to > 1812 and marriages to 1754 section, i.e. the one they have not indexed. > I will be asking West Surrey FHS to put my findings in some form on our > website, so they may be of maximum utility. Frankly, it is incredible > that Ancestry have not themselves done this analysis. There are, in what > I have done so far, some serious errors of allocation, and I want to > draw the attention of searchers to them. The material is organised by > borough and then parish and I have followed this. I have used C = > baptisms, M -= marriages and B = burials > > London Borough of Barnet: St Giles, South Mimms. Ancestry list says > 1754-1812, it is actually CB 1558-1703 > London Borough of Barnet: St Mary,Hendon Ancestry list says 1703-67, yes > CB 1703-67, M 1703-30 but St Mary, Heston in London Borough of Hounslow > London Borough of Bexley: St Michael, Welling Ancestry list says > 1558-1653, yes CMB 1558-1653 but of St Michael Paternoster Royal in the > City > London Borough of Brent: St Mary, Willesden Ancestry list says 1569-74, > actually C 1569-1741, M 1574-1738, B 1572-1741 > London Borough of Camden: Ancestry list says Emmanuel, Hampstead > actually St John at Hampstead > London Borough of Camden: Ancestry list says Percy Chapel 1747-1808, > actually Percy Chapel C 1776-1808, Middlesex Hospital C 1747-53 and > Fitzroy Chapel C 1779-1805 > London Borough of Camden: Ancestry list says St Pancras Parish Church > 1793-96 actually B 1793-1812 > London Borough of Ealing: The 'St Mary' tabs give a mixture of St Mary, > Acton and St Mary, Ealing records > London Borough of Ealing: St Mary Hanwell Ancestry list says 1570-1784 > actually CB 1570-1719, M 1571-1722 > London Borough of Ealing: St Mary Hanwell Ancestry list tabs 1717-24, > 1724-60 and 1733-64 are actually St Mary Ealing > London Borough of Greenwich: St Alfege tab '1893-1903' is actually C > 1722-83, while '1903-13' is actually C 1784-1812 > London Borough of Hackney has no obvious errors but Ancestry's failure > to give C or M or B make the list of Shoreditch almost impossible to use > London Borough of Haringey: St James, Muswell Hill; these are all of > Northolt (in London Borough of Ealing), the 1560-1701 is roughly right, > but 1700-01 also has B 1678-1724 and 1801-01 is just Banns > London Borough of Haringey: St Mary, Hornsey the tab 1810-32 is actually > Banns 1767-68 > London Borough of Harrow; all the St Mary tabs are St Mary, Harrow > London Borough of Hillingdon; all the St John the Baptist tabs refer to > St John the Baptist, Hillingdon > London Borough of Hillingdon Ancestry list says St Mary, Hayes > 1792-1803, actually CB 1792-1812 > London Borough of Hounslow: St Paul, Hounslow Heath is actually Holy > Trinity, Hounslow > London Borough of Islington: Christ Church, Islington is actually Christ > Church Newgate Street in the City > London Borough of Islington: St John the Baptist, Clerkenwell the > 1742-84 tab is actually St James, Clerkenwell and digitised there as > well > London Borough of Islington: St Luke, Milwall is actually St Luke Old > Street > London Borough of Islington: St Mary is St Mary, Islington > > I have done the boroughs alphabetically to the end of Islington, except > the City which I dread as there are so many parishes. However, I trust > this will be useful to researchers. > > Regards > Cliff Webb > > > > > > Cliff Webb > > Director > Rattner Mackenzie Limited > A subsidiary of HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc. > > Mailto:cwebb@rmluk.com > Tel: +44 20 7480 5511 > > This e-mail contains confidential information, and may contain privileged > information, which is the property of the sender, and is intended solely > for the attention and use of the addressee. If you are not the named > addressee, you must not disclose, copy or retransmit this transmission or > take any other action in reliance upon this transmission, and you should > notify us as soon as possible. Rattner Mackenzie Limited is authorized > and regulated by the Financial Services Authority / registered in England > & Wales No.: 02303498, with registered office: Walsingham House, 35 > Seething Lane, London EC3N 4AH. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > >

    09/30/2009 05:44:21
    1. Re: [SRY] Ancestry.com and London Metropolitan Archivesrecordscorrections
    2. Andy Hedgcock
    3. Hi Dave If you click on 'view record' rather than 'view image', there is an option on the left, 'add alternate information'. You are given a chance to alter ALL the same family at the same time which is brilliant - you used to have to do it individually. I've always corrected any that I find, even with families that aren't mine. HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Barber" <dav.barber@btinternet.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry.com and London Metropolitan Archivesrecordscorrections > Cliff > > I have been doing a blanket search of the marriages for the family > CHRISTOPHER. In 500 entries I have found 5% error where the real surname > has been omitted e.g. John Christopher Miller has been transcribed as > John > Christopher. > This is not a complaint, I have transcribed myself and know how difficult > the task can be, this is still a wonderful resource. > > What I would like to know is have you found a route for introducing > corrections? > > Regards > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Webb, Cliff" <cwebb@rmluk.com> > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:53 PM > Subject: [SRY] Ancestry.com and London Metropolitan Archives > recordscorrections > > >>I am posting this on both Middlesex and Surrey lists, as there is >> overlap. I have started analysing the Ancestry digital coverage of >> registers. At the moment I am working on the baptisms and burials to >> 1812 and marriages to 1754 section, i.e. the one they have not indexed. >> I will be asking West Surrey FHS to put my findings in some form on our >> website, so they may be of maximum utility. Frankly, it is incredible >> that Ancestry have not themselves done this analysis. There are, in what >> I have done so far, some serious errors of allocation, and I want to >> draw the attention of searchers to them. The material is organised by >> borough and then parish and I have followed this. I have used C = >> baptisms, M -= marriages and B = burials >> >> London Borough of Barnet: St Giles, South Mimms. Ancestry list says >> 1754-1812, it is actually CB 1558-1703 >> London Borough of Barnet: St Mary,Hendon Ancestry list says 1703-67, yes >> CB 1703-67, M 1703-30 but St Mary, Heston in London Borough of Hounslow >> London Borough of Bexley: St Michael, Welling Ancestry list says >> 1558-1653, yes CMB 1558-1653 but of St Michael Paternoster Royal in the >> City >> London Borough of Brent: St Mary, Willesden Ancestry list says 1569-74, >> actually C 1569-1741, M 1574-1738, B 1572-1741 >> London Borough of Camden: Ancestry list says Emmanuel, Hampstead >> actually St John at Hampstead >> London Borough of Camden: Ancestry list says Percy Chapel 1747-1808, >> actually Percy Chapel C 1776-1808, Middlesex Hospital C 1747-53 and >> Fitzroy Chapel C 1779-1805 >> London Borough of Camden: Ancestry list says St Pancras Parish Church >> 1793-96 actually B 1793-1812 >> London Borough of Ealing: The 'St Mary' tabs give a mixture of St Mary, >> Acton and St Mary, Ealing records >> London Borough of Ealing: St Mary Hanwell Ancestry list says 1570-1784 >> actually CB 1570-1719, M 1571-1722 >> London Borough of Ealing: St Mary Hanwell Ancestry list tabs 1717-24, >> 1724-60 and 1733-64 are actually St Mary Ealing >> London Borough of Greenwich: St Alfege tab '1893-1903' is actually C >> 1722-83, while '1903-13' is actually C 1784-1812 >> London Borough of Hackney has no obvious errors but Ancestry's failure >> to give C or M or B make the list of Shoreditch almost impossible to use >> London Borough of Haringey: St James, Muswell Hill; these are all of >> Northolt (in London Borough of Ealing), the 1560-1701 is roughly right, >> but 1700-01 also has B 1678-1724 and 1801-01 is just Banns >> London Borough of Haringey: St Mary, Hornsey the tab 1810-32 is actually >> Banns 1767-68 >> London Borough of Harrow; all the St Mary tabs are St Mary, Harrow >> London Borough of Hillingdon; all the St John the Baptist tabs refer to >> St John the Baptist, Hillingdon >> London Borough of Hillingdon Ancestry list says St Mary, Hayes >> 1792-1803, actually CB 1792-1812 >> London Borough of Hounslow: St Paul, Hounslow Heath is actually Holy >> Trinity, Hounslow >> London Borough of Islington: Christ Church, Islington is actually Christ >> Church Newgate Street in the City >> London Borough of Islington: St John the Baptist, Clerkenwell the >> 1742-84 tab is actually St James, Clerkenwell and digitised there as >> well >> London Borough of Islington: St Luke, Milwall is actually St Luke Old >> Street >> London Borough of Islington: St Mary is St Mary, Islington >> >> I have done the boroughs alphabetically to the end of Islington, except >> the City which I dread as there are so many parishes. However, I trust >> this will be useful to researchers. >> >> Regards >> Cliff Webb >> >> >> >> >> >> Cliff Webb >> >> Director >> Rattner Mackenzie Limited >> A subsidiary of HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc. >> >> Mailto:cwebb@rmluk.com >> Tel: +44 20 7480 5511 >> >> This e-mail contains confidential information, and may contain privileged >> information, which is the property of the sender, and is intended solely >> for the attention and use of the addressee. If you are not the named >> addressee, you must not disclose, copy or retransmit this transmission or >> take any other action in reliance upon this transmission, and you should >> notify us as soon as possible. Rattner Mackenzie Limited is authorized >> and regulated by the Financial Services Authority / registered in England >> & Wales No.: 02303498, with registered office: Walsingham House, 35 >> Seething Lane, London EC3N 4AH. >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    09/30/2009 06:05:30
    1. Re: [SRY] Ancestry.com and London Metropolitan Archivesrecordscorrections
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Dave When you find the transcription (View record on the left not view image on the right), to the left is an "add alternative information" For the census there is now a transcript under the census image (click down arrow at the bottom of the screen) where you can add changes / alternatives to names, place of birth and birth year In all cases the additions will be added to the searchable database usually in 1 to 4 weeks Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Cliff > > I have been doing a blanket search of the marriages for the family > CHRISTOPHER. In 500 entries I have found 5% error where the real surname > has been omitted e.g. John Christopher Miller has been transcribed as > John > Christopher. > This is not a complaint, I have transcribed myself and know how difficult > the task can be, this is still a wonderful resource. > > What I would like to know is have you found a route for introducing > corrections? > > Regards > Dave

    09/30/2009 06:20:17