S Haslett, I am not sure whether you are new to genealogy,  I am guessing that you are, and am basing my advice on this assumption. Firstly, have you found the marriage of |Edward and Mary.  The marriage certificate will help with tracing parents.  I searched Free BMD, but could not find your couple.  I looked for the marriage of ROBERTS & SHORTLAND.  Then I tried Edward ROBERTS and Mary, and came up with a marriage in Alverstoke, Hants. Secondly, have you tried the other census years.  If you want to save on a subscription to Ancestry, then run your searches at your local reference library where there may be an Ancestry Libraries edition - free searches.  All you pay for is the printing of finds. (I pay 25p per sheet)  I have assumed that you are UK based. Roberts is a common surname.  However, Shortland is rarer and searches on SHORTLAND may reap rewards more quickly.  Also is it Edward E or Edward A?:-| Regards Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: S Haslett <s_haslett@hotmail.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 1 November, 2009 23:25:26 Subject: [SRY] ROBERTS Edward E ROBERTS  Edward E Am trying to find the parents and family of Edward E Roberts born circa 1837. The 1881 census entry for him:                 Dwelling:            109 Gloucester Rd                 Census Place:    St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England                                                 Marr      Age        Sex        Birthplace Edward A. ROBERTS        M            44          M            Kennington, Surrey, England                 Rel:        Head                 Occ:      Clerk Civil Service Mary J. ROBERTS              M            33          F              Ireland                 Rel:        Wife Elizabeth A. SHORTLAND              U            22          F              Plymouth, Devon, England                 Rel:        Sister In Law I would appreciate any information of Edward or his family.                         _________________________________________________________________ Need a place to rent, buy or share? Let us find your next place for you! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message