Bob, I made a mistake in the last email I sent to you. The first para graph should have read. "The reversal of the Christian names on the FreeBDM and the 1911 census creates a practical problem when I want to order, say a marriage certificate on line. For example, there are Free BDM, marriage , entries for a John C Holland in Lambeth in 1933 and an entry for a Charles J Holland in Marylebone in 1930. Which one should I order ? NB. John C Holland, born in Lambeth, is the name the father, Joseph Holland, put for his son on the 1911 census. whereas, . Charles John Holland is the name on the BDM birth entry for Mar 1910. in Lambeth. Patrick.