Hallo Gladys have you looked at www.theshipslist.com? This reference gives the 1857 sailing dates for the Melbourne which should help you a bit further. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/1857-1858.htm I found the 1858 passenger list from the home pages of this site and the 1857 might be there as well. I wonder whether the Melbourne sailed on to NZ, or whether your James, Mrs White etc sailed to NZ at a later date? Hilary > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:47:29 +1300 > From: "Mike and Glen" <mikeandglen@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: [SRY] James Jackson Smith > To: <Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000701ca5ba1$7e75c4b0$7b614e10$@co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain;    > charset="us-ascii" > > > > Good evening > > Looking for James Jackson Smith born 21 January 1837 with > sisters Mary and > Caroline. All I know is that he was born in England and > left for Australia > in 1857 from Liverpool. > > Any help would be great. > > Glenys Kempshall > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:53:29 +1300 > From: "Mike and Glen" <mikeandglen@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [SRY] James Jackson Smith > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001ca5c73$e1430260$a3c90720$@co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain;    > charset="us-ascii" > > Good evening Pam, > Thanks for your effort.  > James Jackson Smith married in New Zealand but on his > marriage certificate > it says  15 February 1877 in Roxburgh New Zealand - > born in London England > so I think it was 21st January 1840 > He died in New Zealand 17 June 1912 and the death > certificate states he was > in his 73rd year so that would be 1840... he had been born > in England but > had been in Roxburgh for 38 years... the diary states he > was in Ida Valley > and Italian Gully - all part of Gabriel's Gully Otago > I don't have emigration records and I am guessing the year > as he states in > his diary ( only have 5 years of diary that he had been '18 > September 1869: > ......Mrs White died.  I miss her as she was the only > ship mate I know of from > the old country..it is now 12 years since I first met her > on board the > Melbourne barque from Liverpool to Melbourne.  She was > a young woman then > and I was quite a boy..how time flies."  I have hunted > for "The Melbourne" > to no avail.... that means 1857 on the "barque Melbourne > Barque: 305 tons" > I am assuming that he came to NZ in 1865 when this diary > begins or before... > not conclusive about when he arrived I am afraid.... could > have been any > year between 1857 -1865 but he certainly was involved in > the Gold Rush in > New Zealand > I have read the diary really closely and that was when I > discovered his two > sisters names - very common I know.  My mum was a > Smith and she said " you > just about have to say what you have for dinner when you > say your name is > Smith!!!" > Does any of this help? > Glenys Kempshall