Hi Anne, Thanks for the Baptism information. The family of Joseph Holland and Bridget Holland ( nee Sharkey) is the correct one but, except for, Annie Elizabeth Holland, who was born in Ireland in Dec 1985, all the other baptismal dates are for dates which are just before the dates when the children were actually born. For Example, Joseph William was born Sept. 1901, Eliza was born June 1897. Kathleen, Grace was born 1900, Henry Michael was born March 1903. I need to sort out the correct order of the Cristian names because I will need to know that before. I order any BDM certificated for them. Thanks Anne. Patrick Perth, Western Australia. Anne Chambers wrote: > Possibly the sons were known by their second names and that is why the order was reversed on the census - if > otherwise they match exactly, I wouldn't worry too much. > > Have you checked to see if there are any baptisms on Ancestry ? There is this one which I presume is the > correct family > Joseph William Holland Baptism 16 Jun 1901 Joseph Holland, Bridget Holland Saint Mary At Lambeth Lambeth > > It would, no doubt, have been confusing to have two Josephs (father & son) in the same family > > These are probably theirs as well > Eliza Holland Baptism 14 Apr 1897 Joseph Holland,Bridget Holland Saint Mary At Lambeth Lambeth > > Annie Elizabeth Holland Baptism 11 Oct 1899 Joseph Holland,Bridget Holland Saint Mary At Lambeth Lambeth > > Kathleen Grace Holland Baptism 11 Oct 1899 Joseph Holland, > Bridget Holland Saint Mary At Lambeth Lambeth > > Henry Michael Holland Baptism 18 Feb 1903 Joseph Holland, > Bridget Holland Saint Mary The Less Lambeth > > Who knows why our ancestors did what they did ! > > Anne > South Australia > > patrick holland wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have looked at the 1911 census for Joseph Holland who lived in Lambeth at the time he completed the >> census and found that the order of the Christian names he gives for his 5 sons on the census, is reversed >> on Free BDM. I searched Free BDM under both Lambeth or Surrey and found the same reversal exists in both >> Lambeth and Surrey. >> >> However, .the order of the Christian names of his 5 daughters, as given on the 1901 census, is the same on >> both the 1911 census. and Free BDM The 5 sons were all born after the 1901 census so I only have them on >> the 1911 census. >> >> For example, on the1911 census, signed by the father, Joseph Holland, the name of the first son is entered >> as. William J Holland age 9 born in Lambeth. Whereas on Free BDM , for both Lambeth and Surrey, there is a >> Joseph William Holland born 1901 Sept. Lambeth. 1d 348. As the dates of birth given on the Free BDM agree >> with the ages given for each son on the 1911 census., I assume that the Free BDM person , of the same >> birth date, and the 1911 person who fits that age, are the same person, only the order of the Christian >> names, entered by the father, Joseph Holland, differs with the order given on the Free BDM. >> >> Only 2 of the 5 daughters were born in, Lambeth, England , and both their Christian name order and ages >> from the 1911 census and Free BDM are the same for Lambeth and Surrey. . So only the reversal of the >> Christian names of the 5 sons is problematical. >> >> Can anybody please explain this. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Patrick Holland. >> > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Patrick I think you are confusing *quarters* of birth registrations with *months*. Births registered in "June 1897" covered registrations in April, May and June of that year, so may well include births in the last week or so of March as well, etc. Hope this helps Caroline > > Hi Anne, > > Thanks for the Baptism information. The family of Joseph Holland and > Bridget Holland ( nee Sharkey) is the correct one but, except for, > Annie Elizabeth Holland, who was born in Ireland in Dec 1985, all the > other baptismal dates are for dates which are just before the dates > when > the children were actually born. For Example, Joseph William was born > Sept. 1901, Eliza was born June 1897. Kathleen, Grace was born 1900, > Henry Michael was born March 1903. > > I need to sort out the correct order of the Cristian names because I > will need to know that before. I order any BDM certificated for them. > > Thanks Anne. > > Patrick > Perth, Western Australia. > > Anne Chambers wrote: > > Possibly the sons were known by their second names and that is why > the order was reversed on the census - if > > otherwise they match exactly, I wouldn't worry too much. > > > > Have you checked to see if there are any baptisms on Ancestry ? > There is this one which I presume is the > > correct family > > Joseph William Holland Baptism 16 Jun 1901 Joseph > Holland, Bridget Holland Saint Mary At Lambeth Lambeth > > > > It would, no doubt, have been confusing to have two Josephs (father & > son) in the same family > > > > These are probably theirs as well > > Eliza Holland Baptism 14 Apr 1897 Joseph Holland,Bridget > Holland Saint Mary At Lambeth Lambeth > > > > Annie Elizabeth Holland Baptism 11 Oct 1899 Joseph > Holland,Bridget Holland Saint Mary At Lambeth Lambeth > > > > Kathleen Grace Holland Baptism 11 Oct 1899 Joseph > Holland, > > Bridget Holland Saint Mary At Lambeth Lambeth > > > > Henry Michael Holland Baptism 18 Feb 1903 Joseph > Holland, > > Bridget Holland Saint Mary The Less Lambeth > > > > Who knows why our ancestors did what they did ! > > > > Anne > > South Australia > >