Hi Eddie, First Robert 1. I have found Roberts marriage to Catherine Houghton which was in fact 16/11/1879 in St mary's lambeth, father William - I will send you a copy OFFLIST. Witness at the marriage was a Charles Frankcom. 2. In 1851 he with with a relative and I think his parents William brother in Law, Susan, sister in Law, and Robert 4 months. 3. In 1861 he is with his grandparents Thomas Tiddamen 65. born Brancaster, Norfolk and Elizabeth 67, born Heacham Norfolk aged 11 (born circa 1850. There doesn't seem to be any other that fits. 4. Death - 2 option comes up I am leaning towards the second one but you will have to get the certificate to be certain. Robert Tidman born circa 1849 died 1897 District of Westminster London, Msx June Quarter aged 48 (1a page 311) or This might be your Robert......Robert Tidman circa 1850 died 1891 District of Shoreditch London Msx June Quarter 1891 aged 41 (1c page 84) Now Eliza 1. I may have found her aged 11 on the 1861 with parents uriah and Eliza born Bristol, Gloucestershire. which makes her age right, and she is the only one that comes up on the 1861 for that date range......no sign of Charles if he was a brother.......living Bristol 2. and if it's her.... 1851 with parents Uriah and eliza in Bristol 3. Charles Frankcom (witness to marriage) is on the 1881 census parents Charles and sophia born 1871 born Bristol, same Parish district as Uriah and Eliza (might be a cousin??) making him 19 at time of being a witness..... 4. there is a marriage for a Robert Tidman in December Q, 1871 Westminster (1a, page 696) to an Eliza Rainsford (perhaps she was married before) OR it could be a red herring. Hope some of this helps, or have I muddued the waters. Sending Roberts Married to Catherine offlist and 1861 for Eliza Frankcom Cheers pam from Adelaide Australia > Eliza Tidman nee Frankcom died in 1878 in Wandsworth. She was 27 > therefore making her birth around 1851. She married Robert Tidman and > had Two daughters, Sarah Jane in 1873 and Elizabeth in 1875. I cannot > find Eliza in the 1871 census or of a marriage recorcd. Any help or > advice would be appreciated. > Robert Tidman was born in Ranworth, Norfolk in 1851. After the death of > his first wife Eliza in 1878 he remarried Catherine Houghton in 1880. > How may I find when he died please.