Hi Caroline, Many thanks for the advice.  I have just taken up Ancestry's offer of the 14 day trial, and have made those finds.  That was well worth it & I will see how Ancestry's service fares. Once again, thank you for your help. Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ---------------------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:00 -0000 From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SRY] Family of John Warne CATHIE Hi Richard Situations like this are where the new Ancestry/LMA/Guildhall Library collaboration really works wonders.  Just go to the London Marriages 1754 - 1821 home page, input the father's name into the appropriate fields and hit enter.  The marriages of Sophia, Ellen and Jane all appear, as does John Snrs marriage to Margaretta and a number of others, some of which could well be wider family. :=>< SNIP Best wishes Caroline