Hallo Tim You can search yourself using   www.freebmd.org.uk and putting in 1891 as the start date.  Having said that I could not find an obvious candidate which makes me wonder if his registration was missed somewhere between registration and the compiltion of the national register.   If you seach for Genuki + Camberwell you should be able to find the address of the registration office, which will be in the LB of Southwark.   I'd guess that by 1891 the most likely place for his burial would be  a cemetery rather than a churchyard.   Camberwell New Cemetery has records for Camberwell Old Cemetery and Nunhead cemetery so you could Google for them or find them on the Genuki page.   The family looked comfortably off in 1891 so one assumes they could afford to pay for his funeral.  My only other thought is that if he entered a workhouse he might be sent to a Lambeth workhouse, because he was born there, and they may have had a contract with another cemetery.   Good hunting Hilary       Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:23:12 -0500 From: "Tim McGinnis" <tmcginnis@bmts.com> Subject: [SRY] Death: Holland, Joseph Richard To: <Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DC174B60456A4F8EB824A8D45F8966EA@LAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="Windows-1252" I would appreciate some help in finding the Death Record for my maternal gr.gr.grandfather, Joseph Richard Holland. Joseph was born in Dec 1808 in Lambeth, Surrey and he was the widower of Sarah Prudence Twopenny (sp). The last record of him I have found is the 1891 Census of Camberwell, Surrey, when he is living with his married granddaughter Kate Greenfield and family. Kate's husband is William Greenfield. There are several Joseph Holland in the death index and a few Joseph Richard Holland. I've ordered several of the most likely and none reference his deceased spouse or a known relative. It has become to expensive to keep making guesses! Does anyone have easy access to the death registrations that they might be able to do a lookup for me. I would have to guess that he died in Surrey as his granddaughter stayed in Camberwell until at least 1911. Joseph was a retired carriage decorator and saddler. His father was John and mother probably Ann Harris, but this is not proven conclusively. Thank you Tim  

Tim, Be careful - Southwark Register Office in Peckham High Street, opposite Southwark Town Hall, and next door to Southwark's South House) charges about £20 for a certificate!  You are better off ordering certificates from the General Register Office £7.00 + P&P. By the way, who were Joseph Holland's employers - Coach Makers. Link to the GR site.  http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ With best wishes  Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: HILARY BLANFORD <hilaryblanford@btinternet.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 1 November, 2009 22:10:41 Subject: [SRY] Re Death: Holland, Joseph Richard Hallo Tim You can search yourself using   www.freebmd.org.uk and putting in 1891 as the start date.  Having said that I could not find an obvious candidate which makes me wonder if his registration was missed somewhere between registration and the compiltion of the national register.   If you seach for Genuki + Camberwell you should be able to find the address of the registration office, which will be in the LB of Southwark.   I'd guess that by 1891 the most likely place for his burial would be  a cemetery rather than a churchyard.   Camberwell New Cemetery has records for Camberwell Old Cemetery and Nunhead cemetery so you could Google for them or find them on the Genuki page.   The family looked comfortably off in 1891 so one assumes they could afford to pay for his funeral.  My only other thought is that if he entered a workhouse he might be sent to a Lambeth workhouse, because he was born there, and they may have had a contract with another cemetery.   Good hunting Hilary       Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:23:12 -0500 From: "Tim McGinnis" <tmcginnis@bmts.com> Subject: [SRY] Death: Holland, Joseph Richard To: <Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DC174B60456A4F8EB824A8D45F8966EA@LAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="Windows-1252" I would appreciate some help in finding the Death Record for my maternal gr.gr.grandfather, Joseph Richard Holland. Joseph was born in Dec 1808 in Lambeth, Surrey and he was the widower of Sarah Prudence Twopenny (sp). The last record of him I have found is the 1891 Census of Camberwell, Surrey, when he is living with his married granddaughter Kate Greenfield and family. Kate's husband is William Greenfield. There are several Joseph Holland in the death index and a few Joseph Richard Holland. I've ordered several of the most likely and none reference his deceased spouse or a known relative. It has become to expensive to keep making guesses! Does anyone have easy access to the death registrations that they might be able to do a lookup for me. I would have to guess that he died in Surrey as his granddaughter stayed in Camberwell until at least 1911. Joseph was a retired carriage decorator and saddler. His father was John and mother probably Ann Harris, but this is not proven conclusively. Thank you Tim   *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message