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    1. [SRY] John MATTHEWS, Robert Whittaker and others
    2. Dorri Roughley
    3. Hello, Thought I would be able to solve this one with the 1911 census but am out of luck. This family seems to disappear and I cannot find any of them on the 1911 census, death index or positively on a passenger list. My 3gt Uncle - John MATTHEWS b. 21 Mar 1853 in Rotherhithe, last known sighting 1901 in Brixton. Regretfully his name makes his death a little difficult to find. He owned his own cartage business, and at one time some lighter barges on the Thames, inherited from his father. His wife, Louisa Mary WALSH, was born 1852 in Norfolk, there is no matching BMD index record for her death between 1901 and 1911. Plot thickens as I cannot find out what became of any of their children that survive to adulthood. Daughter - Louise Emma Elizabeth, b. 1 Oct 1873, marries Robert WHITTAKER in Newington, 24 Jul 1897, he is down as a M.M. Chief Officer at Newhaven, Sussex. I cannot find these two in the 1901 or 1911 census returns or a death for Louise. Any ideas on what an M.M. Chief Officer please? Son - Charles Walsh MATTHEWS b. 1876, Bermondsey, marries Ena Dorriss MILHOUSE in 1898, they appear on the 1901 census at Southwark, but again they are missing off the 1911 census. She was born @ 1876 in Western Australia. Son - Arthur James MATTHEWS b. 1875, Bermondsey, cannot find on the 1901 or 1911 census or a matching death. Son - John MATTHEWS b. 1881, Rotherhithe, not found on the 1901 census, a little impossible to search for his death. Now my guess is some or all went to Australia....but they could have ended up anywhere. Ideas or sightings would be appreciated. Best Wishes, Dorri _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/

    11/01/2009 02:13:06
    1. Re: [SRY] John MATTHEWS, Robert Whittaker and others
    2. Richard M Brown
    3. Hi Dorri, Have you tried the searching for Thames Watermen and Lightermen.  There is ahandy referece in this link  http://www.parishregister.com/newsletters/0506.html Also, The Docklands Museum is worth checking out.  Follow this link and search for Watermen. http://www.museumindocklands.org.uk/English/Collections/ Also, the National Maritime Museum may be able to help.  http://www.nmm.ac.uk/ With best wishes  Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: Dorri Roughley <dorri_roughley@hotmail.co.uk> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 1 November, 2009 21:13:06 Subject: [SRY] John MATTHEWS, Robert Whittaker and others Hello, Thought I would be able to solve this one with the 1911 census but am out of luck. This family seems to disappear and I cannot find any of them on the 1911 census, death index or positively on a passenger list. My 3gt Uncle - John MATTHEWS b. 21 Mar 1853 in Rotherhithe, last known sighting 1901 in Brixton.  Regretfully his name makes his death a little difficult to find.  He owned his own cartage business, and at one time some lighter barges on the Thames, inherited from his father. His wife, Louisa Mary WALSH, was born 1852 in Norfolk, there is no matching BMD index record for her death between 1901 and 1911.  Plot thickens as I cannot find out what became of any of their children that survive to adulthood. Daughter - Louise Emma Elizabeth, b. 1 Oct 1873, marries Robert WHITTAKER in Newington, 24 Jul 1897, he is down as a M.M. Chief Officer at Newhaven, Sussex.  I cannot find these two in the 1901 or 1911 census returns or a death for Louise.  Any ideas on what an M.M. Chief Officer please? Son - Charles Walsh MATTHEWS b. 1876, Bermondsey, marries Ena Dorriss MILHOUSE in 1898, they appear on the 1901 census at Southwark, but again they are missing off the 1911 census.  She was born @ 1876 in Western Australia. Son - Arthur James MATTHEWS b. 1875, Bermondsey, cannot find on the 1901 or 1911 census or a matching death. Son - John MATTHEWS  b. 1881, Rotherhithe, not found on the 1901 census, a little impossible to search for his death. Now my guess is some or all went to Australia....but they could have ended up anywhere. Ideas or sightings would be appreciated. Best Wishes, Dorri                         _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/ *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/02/2009 12:00:01
    1. Re: [SRY] John MATTHEWS, Robert Whittaker and others
    2. Anne Chambers
    3. Dorri Roughley wrote: > > Hello, > snip > > > Daughter - Louise Emma Elizabeth, b. 1 Oct 1873, marries Robert WHITTAKER in Newington, 24 Jul 1897, he is > down as a M.M. Chief Officer at Newhaven, Sussex. I cannot find these two in the 1901 or 1911 census > returns or a death for Louise. Any ideas on what an M.M. Chief Officer please? Mercantile Marine Chief Officer i.e. Merchant Navy > Son - Charles Walsh MATTHEWS b. 1876, Bermondsey, marries Ena Dorriss MILHOUSE in 1898, they appear on the > 1901 census at Southwark, but again they are missing off the 1911 census. She was born @ 1876 in Western > Australia. This may be coincidence Births Dec 1907 MATTHEWS Doris Ena Newmarket 3b 417 but it might be worth getting the certificate to see who her parents are. Anne South Australia

    11/02/2009 01:39:34