Hello Alison, On Ancestry on the 1871 Census living at East Barming, Kent is an Ellen CRAWLEY age 20 born Brighton, Sussex with her parents John and Mary both age 52 and born in Ireland. I would suggest sending for Ellen's marriage registration in Dec 1880 as this would probably give her father's Christian name. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Martyn" <a.martyn@btinternet.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: [SRY] KOHOANE/COHOANE - SWEETMAN (Battersea & Croydon) >I wonder if there is any Surrey Super-Sleuth out there who might be able to > help me with a real brickwall? > > Henry Sweetman married Ellen "Kohoane" in 1880 Brentford > > Henry was from Co. Cork, Ireland and Ellen was evidently born in Brighton > c.1856 > > In the 1881 census I can't find Henry but Ellen (age 30) was working at > "The > Priory" hospital in Putney. > > In the 1891 census Henry & Ellen (age 35) are living at 172 Meyrick Road > in > Battersea with children: > Maria 8 (born Kew), John 6 & Nellie 3 (born Battersea) > > In the 1901 census Henry & Ellen (age 44) are living at 17 Queens Road in > Croydon with children: > Mary 18, John 16, Ellen 13, Henry 9 and Daniel 7. > > I have a copy of Daniel's birth certificate (1893 - 180 Meyrick Rd, > Battersea) and Ellen's maiden name is given as COHOANE. > > With them in 1901 is...Ellen's mum (age 80 born Ireland). It's really > hard > to make out her surname but it's certainly not Cohoane/Kohoane. She's > either Mary or May...and then Crawley/Crawly/Crowley..something like that. > I've searched for Mary/May's death and can't find it. > > Then in 1911 they were at 1 Frant Road, Thornton Heath. Henry, Ellen (age > 49) and John (who was killed in WW1), Henry & Daniel. > Mary had by this time married John Kirby and Ellen/Nellie had married John > McCarthy. > > Can you guess what all this is leading up to?? I can't find Ellen's birth > in Brighton - nor can I find her on the 1871 census. Her year of birth > could be anything from 1850-1862. If you type the surname Cohoane or > Kohoane into Ancestry not one entry comes up (except Ellen's marriage), > although there are a few entries for Cohone/Kohone/Cohane/Kohane. They > were > Roman Catholics so perhaps Ellen's parents thought that as long as she was > baptised there was no need to register her birth. And where is May/Mary's > death - presumably some time between 1901 and 1911. And where was Henry > Sweetman in 1881? > > If anyone can suggest ANYTHING more I could try I'd be very very grateful. > > Thanks very much - Alison > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.73/2514 - Release Date: 11/19/09 19:42:00

I would like to thank everyone for their kind response to my query. I've realised that it's important for me to retrieve the info from Ellen & Henry's marriage certificate, which I bought some years ago now and gave to my mum's friend (grand-daughter of Ellen & Henry). I STUPIDLY didn't keep a copy...so I am going to ask Mum to ring her and hopefully retrieve the full details. Ellen's father's name would be a big help as the family Carol found in 1871 in East Barming, Kent, look like a real possibility. Thanks once again to one and all....Alison