Jenny ,Hilary & Judy and everyone who helped with my enquiry for my Ellen Clements.I just wanted to let those who helped me know that I ordered the birth certificate For Eleanor Ann Clements Mar Qtr 1852 1c Vol 141 Shoreditch and it was the correct one . She was the daughter of James Thomas & Ann Clements and was born St Leonards Middlesex their abode was Thomas St, Hackney Rd, Shoreditch on the cert.They must have moved to Surrey soon afterwards. Many Thanks again Cheri