Late night/early morning Typo - so you can breath again Jason. Sorry about that Hilary .> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:40:05 -0700 > From: Jason Austin <jason.austin@shaw.ca> > Subject: Re: [SRY] Was Ancestry New Records  now > AUSTIN > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4ACCB655.3060709@shaw.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Thanks Hilary.  Bricklayers and builders did seem to > be interchangeable > descriptions at that time.    I'll follow this > line - but my man was an > Austin not a Martin.  Was that a typo? > > Regards > > Jason > > > HILARY BLANFORD wrote: > > >     Hallo Jason > >     I searched the new Ancestry > records for blank first name and > >     Mart*n Surname, father Richard > child born Bermondsey Surrey England. > >      > >     This produced Rachel daughter > of Richard and Rachal baptised Sep > >     3rd 1815. Father a bricklayer > living in Bermondsey Street, so he > >     could be the father of your > John.   Maybe he became a builder or > >     maybe John exaggerated his > father's status on his marriage > >     certificate to impress the in > laws. > >      > >     If you have access to the > records and search for Rachel you will > >     find 2 entries.  One is > in the printed baptismal > >     register register, the other > is in the 'rough register'.  If you > >     start with the latter you can > click back to the 1915 register at > >     the top of the entry from the > image view, find the list of > >     registers available and then > do a manual search forwards in case > >     your John is in there but was > missed from the transcription.  You > >     can also find these registers > from the Southwark listings.  The > >     'rough registers' tend to be > more accurate, and in the case of St > >     MM Bermondsey, they include > the date of birth in the register of > >     baptisms.  The date of > birth is not shown in the printed register > >     of baptisms. > >      > >     If you still can't find him it > may be worth looking at the > >     Bishop's Transcripts for 1820 > -1824 period - his birth appears to > >     be round 1822. > >      > >     You may have discovered this > already, but Saint Mary Magdalen at > >     Bermondsey does not have an e > on the end of Magdalen.  It is often > >     mis-spelt including in the > historic Ancestry records, so you may > >     need to use both spellings > when searching for your family. >       > >     Hilary