Hi Hilary Thanks for asking - I hadn't meant for people to search for me, I was looking for ideas where to look myself. But having said that I will gratefully accept any help given! His name is John AUSTIN. He was married in 1846 at Islington to Ann Jane POLLARD, daughter of the painter Robert James POLLARD. Their marriage certificate says his father was Richard AUSTIN, builder. The 1851 census says he was born in Bermondsey. I can't find him in the 1861 or 1871 census returns. He died in April 1872. He was a solicitors clerk. I believe he was a cousin of the London developer Henry de Bruno AUSTIN and that he may have worked for him in the 1850's as a builders clerk. Around that time he began giving his children the middle name "de Bruno". If he was related to Henry de Bruno Austin then his family would have come from Devon. These are the notes I have about him from various birth BMD certificates that show his addresses and occupation. April 4 1846 2 Miltons Place, Islington, Middlesex (marriage cert) "Clerk" 1851 census 42 Denton Place, St. James, Clerkenwell John Austin, head, 29, accountant, Bermondsey, Surrey Ann J. wife 24 Dress maker Holloway, Middlesex Amelia J. dau 3 Islington, Middlesex Alfred J. son 1 St. James, Clerkenwell Ellen Bannergan serv 25 House servant Skibbereen, Cork October 19, 1854 43 Cleveland Square, Paddington/Islington, Middlesex "Commercial Clerk" (Emma's birth certificate) November 2, 1856 2 Cloudesley Street Islington West, Middlesex "Builders Clerk" (Arthur's birth certificate) August 30, 1859 15 Queens Head Lane, Islington, Middlesex "Solicitors Common Law Clerk" (Richard's birth certificate) (not here at the 1861 census - occupied by a bootmaker) December 15, 1861 5 Stanley Road, Islington, Middlesex "Proctors Clerk" (Florences' birth certificate) January 26, 1864 65 Mildmay Street, Islington "Solicitors Clerk" (Arthur's death certificate) March 5, 1864 4 Spencer Road, Albert Town, Middlesex "Solicitors Clerk" (Johns (Jnr) birth certificate) March 3, 1865 4 Spencer Road, Albert Town, Middlesex "Solicitors Clerk" (John (Jnr) death cert) January 3, 1866 4 Spencer Road, Albert Town, Middlesex "Solicitors Clerk" (Catherine Ada's birth certificate) February 15, 1867 6 John's Terrace, Islington, Middlesex "Solicitors Clerk" (Emma's death certificate) (house occupied by a pianoforte maker in 1871) December 5 1868 3 Markfield Terrace, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex "Solicitor's Clerk" (Ann Jane's death certificate) (3 Markfield Terrace was unoccupied at the 1871 census) Note - Markfield is one street from Denton Place where they lived at the 1851 census. December 9, 1868 3 Markfield Terrace Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex "Solicitors clerk" - death certificate of Catherine Ada Austin At the 1871 census his daughter Florence, 9, was living with her Aunt Catherine (Pollard) Wray in Streatham, Surrey April 7, 1872 107 Essex Road, Islington, Middlesex His death certificate "Solicitor's Clerk" (Frederick Brett, hairdresser, 54, was living here at the 1871 census) Many thanks! Jason HILARY BLANFORD wrote: >Jason >You don't help us to help you by not giving the names of John's parents. Family Search has the 1824 baptism of a John William Martin son of John and Ann at St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey. If that is not him - > >See West Surrey FHS site for details of their pre 1837 birth and marriage CDs not included in the IGI. > >See FamilySearch site/ Library/ Catalog/ Place search to see what they have for Bermondsey > >See TNA site for non conformist births and down loadable images from Dr Williams Library and other non conformist chapels > >Hilary > > Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:59:17 -0700 >From: Jason Austin <jason.austin@shaw.ca> >Subject: Re: [SRY] ancestry new records >To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <4ACA9665.7080904@shaw.ca> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Seconding Paul's applause for Ancestry's latest offerings with the >London parish records but I STILL can't find my elusive John Austin, >supposedly born in Bermondsey in 1822 ....! That man is going to >have a lot to answer for when I finally meet him ..... lol > >Can anyone advise me what to try now? The 1851 census says he was born >in Bermondsey, and he was buried in Abney Park so by his death at least >he was a dissenter. If his parents were dissenters was there a baptism >or other ritual that may have been recorded? > >Thanks > >Jason > > Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:58:08 +1300 >From: "John Scott" <jaydeescott@xtra.co.nz> >Subject: Re: [SRY] ancestry new records >To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <1BF1A741D5A343E6B677697D5D73B5B8@Daphne1> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Have you thought of Maze Pond Chapel, just by Guys Hospital. >Daphne. > >*************************************** >Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > >List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >