Hello, I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone know which ones they will be please? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > Hi Carole > > The clue is in the name - *parish* registers refer to the registers of the > Established Church (i.e. the Church of England) :-) > > You won't find any registers of Roman Catholic churches (which are > officially termed "missions" not "parishes") in the collection, and they are > very hard to research (try http://www.catholic-library.org.uk/index.html for > information), though between 1754 and 1837 your Catholic ancestors would > have had to marry in the Church of England. This applied to the protestant > non-conformists too (though not to Quakers or Jews who were allowed to > maintain their own records, on the basis that these were accepted to be very > well regulated). > > So every marriage, if it took place in London, should be there until 1837, > unless it took place within the many large churches in the City of > Westminster (which covers a large part of the central area). These > registers are held by the Westminster Archive Centre, not the LMA or the > Guildhall Library, so are not part of the project in question. > > After 1837, you will only find marriages which took place in C of E > churches. For the rest (Catholic, non-conformist, Jewish etc), and anything > in Westminster, you are best off relying on marriage certificates via the > civil registration system. > > As for baptisms, these were always optional, so your ancestors may just not > have been very godly! If they were non-conformists (including Quakers), try > the non-parochial registers available via subscription of pay-per-view at > www.thegenealogist.co.uk. > > Hope this helps > > Caroline > > > >> >> Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London area >> Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other >> denominations? >> >> >> >> I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been >> Catholic. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Carole Brett >> >> *************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jan I can't anything on Ancestry re new records. Perhaps to email them? Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > Hello, > I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone > know which ones they will be please? > > > Jan > >

The LMA's Digitisation page (http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/LGNL_Services/Leisure_and_cultur e/Records_and_archives/Ancestry+digitisation.htm) gives a list. They are not doing badly so far - it would be nice if the school admission registers were indeed online in 2009! The indexed versions of the earlier parish registers are something to look forward to as well, but the huge variation in style of these from parish to parish (not to mention the condition of some of the registers themselves) must be giving them a bit of a headache. Best wishes Caroline > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Neil & Jan Hearn > Sent: 12 October 2009 22:11 > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > > Hello, > I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone > know which ones they will be please? > > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:31 AM > Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > > > > Hi Carole > > > > The clue is in the name - *parish* registers refer to the registers > of the > > Established Church (i.e. the Church of England) :-) > > > > You won't find any registers of Roman Catholic churches (which are > > officially termed "missions" not "parishes") in the collection, and > they are > > very hard to research (try http://www.catholic- > library.org.uk/index.html for > > information), though between 1754 and 1837 your Catholic ancestors > would > > have had to marry in the Church of England. This applied to the > protestant > > non-conformists too (though not to Quakers or Jews who were allowed > to > > maintain their own records, on the basis that these were accepted to > be very > > well regulated). > > > > So every marriage, if it took place in London, should be there until > 1837, > > unless it took place within the many large churches in the City of > > Westminster (which covers a large part of the central area). These > > registers are held by the Westminster Archive Centre, not the LMA or > the > > Guildhall Library, so are not part of the project in question. > > > > After 1837, you will only find marriages which took place in C of E > > churches. For the rest (Catholic, non-conformist, Jewish etc), and > anything > > in Westminster, you are best off relying on marriage certificates via > the > > civil registration system. > > > > As for baptisms, these were always optional, so your ancestors may > just not > > have been very godly! If they were non-conformists (including > Quakers), try > > the non-parochial registers available via subscription of pay-per- > view at > > www.thegenealogist.co.uk. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > >> > >> Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London > area > >> Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other > >> denominations? > >> > >> > >> > >> I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been > >> Catholic. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> > >> Carole Brett > >> > >> *************************************** > >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM > AWAY** > >> superfluous old messages in replies. > >> > >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > >> the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Caroline. I'll be looking forward to seeing more records soon. It really is amazing isn't it? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > The LMA's Digitisation page > (http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/LGNL_Services/Leisure_and_cultur > e/Records_and_archives/Ancestry+digitisation.htm) gives a list. They are > not doing badly so far - it would be nice if the school admission registers > were indeed online in 2009! The indexed versions of the earlier parish > registers are something to look forward to as well, but the huge variation > in style of these from parish to parish (not to mention the condition of > some of the registers themselves) must be giving them a bit of a headache. > > Best wishes > > Caroline > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Neil & Jan Hearn >> Sent: 12 October 2009 22:11 >> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers >> >> Hello, >> I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone >> know which ones they will be please? >> >> >> Jan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> >> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers >> >> >> > Hi Carole >> > >> > The clue is in the name - *parish* registers refer to the registers >> of the >> > Established Church (i.e. the Church of England) :-) >> > >> > You won't find any registers of Roman Catholic churches (which are >> > officially termed "missions" not "parishes") in the collection, and >> they are >> > very hard to research (try http://www.catholic- >> library.org.uk/index.html for >> > information), though between 1754 and 1837 your Catholic ancestors >> would >> > have had to marry in the Church of England. This applied to the >> protestant >> > non-conformists too (though not to Quakers or Jews who were allowed >> to >> > maintain their own records, on the basis that these were accepted to >> be very >> > well regulated). >> > >> > So every marriage, if it took place in London, should be there until >> 1837, >> > unless it took place within the many large churches in the City of >> > Westminster (which covers a large part of the central area). These >> > registers are held by the Westminster Archive Centre, not the LMA or >> the >> > Guildhall Library, so are not part of the project in question. >> > >> > After 1837, you will only find marriages which took place in C of E >> > churches. For the rest (Catholic, non-conformist, Jewish etc), and >> anything >> > in Westminster, you are best off relying on marriage certificates via >> the >> > civil registration system. >> > >> > As for baptisms, these were always optional, so your ancestors may >> just not >> > have been very godly! If they were non-conformists (including >> Quakers), try >> > the non-parochial registers available via subscription of pay-per- >> view at >> > www.thegenealogist.co.uk. >> > >> > Hope this helps >> > >> > Caroline >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London >> area >> >> Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other >> >> denominations? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been >> >> Catholic. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Carole Brett >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM >> AWAY** >> >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- >> >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> >> the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > *************************************** >> > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> > >> > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> *************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for going to the trouble for me Caroline. It has answered a number of questions, I will have a look on the Catholic site, I have had no luck with the civil registration search. I don't believe the couple I am interested in married, they are on the censuses though. Thanks again Carole -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Bradford Sent: 12 October 2009 22:25 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers The LMA's Digitisation page (http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/LGNL_Services/Leisure_and_cultur e/Records_and_archives/Ancestry+digitisation.htm) gives a list. They are not doing badly so far - it would be nice if the school admission registers were indeed online in 2009! The indexed versions of the earlier parish registers are something to look forward to as well, but the huge variation in style of these from parish to parish (not to mention the condition of some of the registers themselves) must be giving them a bit of a headache. Best wishes Caroline > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Neil & Jan Hearn > Sent: 12 October 2009 22:11 > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > > Hello, > I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone > know which ones they will be please? > > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:31 AM > Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > > > > Hi Carole > > > > The clue is in the name - *parish* registers refer to the registers > of the > > Established Church (i.e. the Church of England) :-) > > > > You won't find any registers of Roman Catholic churches (which are > > officially termed "missions" not "parishes") in the collection, and > they are > > very hard to research (try http://www.catholic- > library.org.uk/index.html for > > information), though between 1754 and 1837 your Catholic ancestors > would > > have had to marry in the Church of England. This applied to the > protestant > > non-conformists too (though not to Quakers or Jews who were allowed > to > > maintain their own records, on the basis that these were accepted to > be very > > well regulated). > > > > So every marriage, if it took place in London, should be there until > 1837, > > unless it took place within the many large churches in the City of > > Westminster (which covers a large part of the central area). These > > registers are held by the Westminster Archive Centre, not the LMA or > the > > Guildhall Library, so are not part of the project in question. > > > > After 1837, you will only find marriages which took place in C of E > > churches. For the rest (Catholic, non-conformist, Jewish etc), and > anything > > in Westminster, you are best off relying on marriage certificates via > the > > civil registration system. > > > > As for baptisms, these were always optional, so your ancestors may > just not > > have been very godly! If they were non-conformists (including > Quakers), try > > the non-parochial registers available via subscription of pay-per- > view at > > www.thegenealogist.co.uk. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > >> > >> Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London > area > >> Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other > >> denominations? > >> > >> > >> > >> I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been > >> Catholic. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> > >> Carole Brett > >> > >> *************************************** > >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM > AWAY** > >> superfluous old messages in replies. > >> > >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > >> the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. 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Can someone tell what the registration district for Millwall was in the 1890s, please? And is there a list of them somewhere? I have a similar list for Middlesex. Lawrence _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/

Hi Lawrence You're on the wrong side of the river for Millwall:-) It's on the Isle of Dogs, north of the Thames, so in Middlesex until 1889 and thereafter in London, never in Surrey. I am pretty sure it came under Poplar RD at that time. Best wishes Caroline > > > Can someone tell what the registration district for Millwall was in the > 1890s, please? And is there a list of them somewhere? I have a > similar list for Middlesex. > > > > Lawrence > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access > both > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message