Listers, The recent emails about PULLEN, have prompted me to ad some information about the surname. In Southwark, there was a PULLEN family, plumbers by trade and developers. They built an estate of flats with workshop courtyards to the rear of several of the blocks. Southwark Council set about demolishing the estate, but were stopped by residents in a number of the blocks towards the North end of the estate. The remains of the estate still stand and are known locally as the Pullens. The blocks are around Amelia Street, and Crampton Street. The flats are extremely cramped with the frint doors set at 45 degrees to the access staircases - tro save space. The access stairsd contain unusual Victorian tiles. The Pullens went ahead to patent some lead dip type drainage traps. Southwark's Local Studies Library near Borough Tube Station holds a lot of information about the estate and how part was saved by the residents. PULLEN is pretty uncommon surname, so the chances are there are connections in there with the various interests posted. Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ----- Original Message ---- From: "eng-surrey-request@rootsweb.com" <eng-surrey-request@rootsweb.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 3 January, 2010 14:03:45 Subject: ENG-SURREY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 If you'd like your Digest format changed, please don't hesitate to contact me, Ann, at the Surrey List Admin address: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com To send a reply, or a new message to the List send it to Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com When replying to an earlier message please change the Subject line to reflect the content, and trim away unnecessary parts of earlier postings. Always use Plain Text for List Messages - if unsure contact List Admin for help. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cemetery Surrey (Julie Goucher) 2. Re: Cemetery Surrey (Deborah Tiley) 3. Thomas PULLEN, Headley - leatherhead married SEAGRAVES (Pam Hillier) 4. Re: Cemetery Surrey (Julie Goucher) 5. Re: Marriage : Thomas PULLEN, Headley(Surrey) 1705 (Ann Sargeant) 6. LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 (George Pickering) 7. Re: LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 (Deborah Tiley) 8. Re: LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 (Philip Maddocks) 9. Re: LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 (George Pickering) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:08:04 -0000 From: "Julie Goucher" <anglers.rest@virgin.net> Subject: Re: [SRY] Cemetery Surrey To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <15309B0DA8ED4700A762EADCC55B4CBF@AnglersRest> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original > http://www2.kingston.gov.uk/GraveRecords/ > > Which is both Kingston and Surbiton cemeteries - you can view and save > the actual burial register entries > Debbie Thanks so much for passing this site on. I now have the name of the undertaker who dealt with the funeral of my Great Great Aunt Eliza PARSLOW nee ELSTONE. --- Regards, Julie Goucher anglers.rest@virgin.net http://www.anglers-rest.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:34:14 +0000 From: Deborah Tiley <deborah_tiley@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [SRY] Cemetery Surrey To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4B4080B6.9090007@yahoo.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Julie I forgot to mention that when you have found a relative, go back to the search page and enter just the Cemetery and grave no - this will give you everyone else in the grave. Debbie Julie Goucher wrote: >> http://www2.kingston.gov.uk/GraveRecords/ >> >> Which is both Kingston and Surbiton cemeteries - you can view and save >> the actual burial register entries >> Debbie >> > > Thanks so much for passing this site on. I now have the name of the undertaker > who dealt with the funeral of my Great Great Aunt Eliza PARSLOW nee ELSTONE. > > --- > Regards, > Julie Goucher > anglers.rest@virgin.net > http://www.anglers-rest.net > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:26:30 +1030 From: "Pam Hillier" <pamhillier24@virginbroadband.com.au> Subject: [SRY] Thomas PULLEN, Headley - leatherhead married SEAGRAVES To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <3864D64670E94DB880CE177526C9DEA0@GENHILLIER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Chris, According to the Surrey Marriages Cd - there is no other information unfortunately. I noticed that Headley and Leatherhead are only 2.8 miles from each other. I have an Emily Edwards Pullen that was born in Leatherhead - I believe her parents to be William PULLEN and Jane EDWARDS. She married Isaac SEAGRAVE in St martins in the Fields, Westminster in 1844. This is only from the IGI however. In the 1861 census they have a visitor with them in Kensington - Harriett S PULLEN I don't have much on Emily (but would like to find a home for her) but I have the SEAGRAVES back hundreds of years. Does she come from your PULLEN family? I have never been able to find her.......I would love a lead and sharing information goes without saying of course. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi, > > The Surrey Marriage Index shows my Great(x6) Grandfather Thomas PULLEN > marriage to Rosamund ???????? on the 17th July 1705 Headley. I've probably > hit the end of the line here but does anybody have the PR's for Headley in > the hope I can find Rosamund's surname. I doubt the Marriage Entry will > show > it but I'm hoping with such an unusual name that there might be a baptism > or > something that might give me a lead. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:06:51 -0000 From: "Julie Goucher" <anglers.rest@virgin.net> Subject: Re: [SRY] Cemetery Surrey To: "Deborah Tiley" <deborah_tiley@yahoo.co.uk>, <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <7609A97B1E74437A87B6A61BEEC03D68@AnglersRest> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response > I forgot to mention that when you have found a relative, go back to the > search page and enter just the Cemetery and grave no - this will give > you everyone else in the grave. > http://www2.kingston.gov.uk/GraveRecords/ Thanks for that. It actually confirmed for me when Eliza's husband died in 1955 aged 91 years. The grave was reopened when Joseph died and had originally been purchased in 1897 when their son Richard H died aged just two years. Thanks once again --- Regards, Julie Goucher anglers.rest@virgin.net http://www.anglers-rest.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:15:07 -0000 From: "Ann Sargeant" <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [SRY] Marriage : Thomas PULLEN, Headley(Surrey) 1705 To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <38B3A5B13CD044B093C493E70F03FFDF@HomePC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Chris When a surname is missing from the WSFHS Surrey Marriage Index, the reason will be either that the surname was missing or that it was completely illegible. In these circumstances is it just possible that Surrey History Centre may be able to help as they have access to the original register. The staff there are incredibly helpful so it could be worth your while emailing them. It would also be worth seeing whether LMA have Bishops Transcripts (I haven't checked), as there is always the hope of additional or even different information therein. Ann From: "Chris Wake" <chris.eintracht@bigpond.com> > The Surrey Marriage Index shows my Great(x6) Grandfather Thomas PULLEN > marriage to Rosamund ???????? on the 17th July 1705 Headley. I've probably > hit the end of the line here but does anybody have the PR's for Headley in > the hope I can find Rosamund's surname. I doubt the Marriage Entry will > show > it but I'm hoping with such an unusual name that there might be a baptism > or > something that might give me a lead. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 13:11:01 +0100 (CET) From: George Pickering <member@gpickering.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: [SRY] LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 To: SURREY <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1030325.925181262520661614.JavaMail.www@wwinf3711> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear List, I know this is not a "SURREY" subject but on looking for a marriage entry in the St Marylebone Parish Church register for 15th January 1888 I expected to see my grandparents' entry, however, it's not there. The pages are consecutively numbered and none appear to be missing. I have a copy of their marriage certificate from the St Marylebone Register Office with clearly written dates etc. Is there an explanation why a civil copy exists and not a parish one? George Rainham, Kent. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:08:16 +0000 From: Deborah Tiley <deborah_tiley@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [SRY] LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 To: George Pickering <member@gpickering.freeserve.co.uk>, eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4B4096C0.3080604@yahoo.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi George Are you sure that they were not married in the Register Office itself or maybe one of the other Churches in the parish? If they were married in the Register Office then there would be no Parish entry - the certificate that you have should have the register number on it - does this tie in with the on-line register Debbie George Pickering wrote: > Dear List, > > I know this is not a "SURREY" subject but on looking for a marriage entry in the St Marylebone Parish Church register for 15th January 1888 I expected to see my grandparents' entry, however, it's not there. > > The pages are consecutively numbered and none appear to be missing. > > I have a copy of their marriage certificate from the St Marylebone Register Office with clearly written dates etc. > > Is there an explanation why a civil copy exists and not a parish one? > > George > Rainham, Kent. > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 13:10:44 -0000 From: "Philip Maddocks" <listenat@talktalk.net> Subject: Re: [SRY] LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <10827231169B4F6C872BD39C2AE412DD@philips> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original George Does the certificate say that they were married in church? Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Pickering" <member@gpickering.freeserve.co.uk> To: "SURREY" <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: [SRY] LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 > Dear List, > > I know this is not a "SURREY" subject but on looking for a marriage entry > in the St Marylebone Parish Church register for 15th January 1888 I > expected to see my grandparents' entry, however, it's not there. > > The pages are consecutively numbered and none appear to be missing. > > I have a copy of their marriage certificate from the St Marylebone > Register Office with clearly written dates etc. > > Is there an explanation why a civil copy exists and not a parish one? > > George > Rainham, Kent. > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 15:03:36 +0100 (CET) From: George Pickering <member@gpickering.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: [SRY] LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <11948619.898651262527416066.JavaMail.www@wwinf3715> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Philip. Yes it does, extract as follows; 1888. Marriage solemnized at "the Parish Church, Parish of St. Marylebone in the County of Middlesex". 15th January 1888 between Herbert PICKERING and Hannah Elizabeth WOOLLEY Signed by G E Thomas, Curate. I cannot understand why the entry is not in the parish records. George Rainham, Kent. ======================================== Message Received: Jan 03 2010, 01:10 PM From: "Philip Maddocks" To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [SRY] LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 George Does the certificate say that they were married in church? Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Pickering" To: "SURREY" Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: [SRY] LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 > Dear List, > > I know this is not a "SURREY" subject but on looking for a marriage entry > in the St Marylebone Parish Church register for 15th January 1888 I > expected to see my grandparents' entry, however, it's not there. > > The pages are consecutively numbered and none appear to be missing. > > I have a copy of their marriage certificate from the St Marylebone > Register Office with clearly written dates etc. > > Is there an explanation why a civil copy exists and not a parish one? > > George > Rainham, Kent. > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. 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