Lynn I also have James SIMMONDS and Kate on my tree. Her parents are James and Jane HILL, the family are living in Woking for the 1841 and 1851 Census (Jane had died in 1844) She has a younger brother David who was born on 2 Feb 1838 according to his baptism, you could apply for his birth certificate which would give you his mother's maiden name. There is the marriage of a James HILL to a Jane MONK on 10 Dec 1816 at Ripley and Send Shirley Forster ELWICK Web Page www.elwick.info Pirbright Web Page www.pirbright.info ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Jarvis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: [SRY] names > Hi me to i am looking for a Katie,Katy,or Catherine hill from Woking who > married a James Simmonds i have never been able to find her birth Lynn