Hi, John I don't know if this is a possible lead, or if I am barking up wrong tree, but I was searching thru the up-dated Family Search web-site when I found this:- LAZARUS PAVIE birth 07 April 1774, Holborn. Parents Charles and Mary - Non-Conformist Record Indexes RG4 - 8 The date is a bit adrift but????? could it be? But we haven't got any other "Charles's in the family as I recall. I have just Googled "Lazarus Pavey" and got this:- Lazarus Pavey Born 7th. April 1774 Holborn Middx, spouse Mary Boucher, married 21st. Feb. 1801 Camden, death 25th. Aug. 1844 Kingston (Non-Conformist Register) Which is all correct. I don't subscribe to Ancestry at the moment, but when I typed "Lazarus Pavey "into their search box and clicked various registers to try and find confirmation, no Lazarus came up. Do you think the Googled bit was a leap of faith by someone/something? Somewhat confused, Daphne