Hi Nivard, I too have had problems with Lambeth Workhouse and baptisms. My great grandfather SAMUEL DENTON RUSSELL was baptised at St Mary Magdalene Bermondsey in 1849. There is no precise date beside his name but another earlier entry has 23 May 1849. Later on I found SAMUEL D RUSSELL in the 1851 census in Lambeth Workhouse, there was no sign of either of his parents or his brothers and sisters but his age is given as 12 years. Therefore he must have been born circa 1838. Further research revealed that in the 1841 census he was living, aged 3, in Bermondsey Street with his mother ELIZABETH 36 Greengrocer, sister SARAH 17 trotter dresser, brother BENJAMIN 15 shipwright and brother WILLIAM aged 11. There is no sign of his father BENJAMIN RUSSELL. I have never been able to find any other baptism for SAMUEL DENTON nor can I discover whether his baptism in 1849 took place from the Workhouse. There is no record of his admission to the Workhouse but I have recently discovered that he was not actually alone as I found on genes reunited the marriage of his mother ELIZABETH RUSSELL to JOSEPH CHESNEY at St Dunstan and All Saints Stepney on 19 Jun 1842, both parties were widowed, but I have so far not found the burial of BENJAMIN RUSSELL. JOSEPH BENJAMIN CHESNEY was buried 25 Jul 1849 at St Mary Magdalene Bermondsey, and in 1851 his widow ELIZABETH CHESNEY 49 pauper, their two children ELIZABETH LETITIA CHESNEY 6 and BENJAMIN CHESNEY 3 were all in Lambeth Workhouse together with ELIZABETH's son, my great grandfather, SAMUEL DENTON RUSSELL. My 2xgreat grandmother seems to have had a very sad hard life, she was married as ELIZABETH PEARCE on 9 Jul 1821 to BENJAMIN RUSSELL, a widower, when she can only have been about 15 years old, she was widowed twice, and died in 1855, probably in the Workhouse although my next move is to get a copy of her death certificate to prove this. Getting any further information about baptisms from the Workhouse has proved impossible as has finding out about apprenticeships for Workhouse children. I think that SAMUEL DENTON RUSSELL was probably apprenticed as a cooper as this was his occupation at the time of his marriage in 1860 but no records seem to have survived. Pauline Taylor, In Colchester, Britain's First City! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:01 AM To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SRY] Lambeth Workhouse records circa 1780 - 1800 > Hi Nancy > > Yes if the story is true there could be a Catholic link however why did > they have their last child baptised in 1791 at St Marys Lambeth yet > there is no sign of the name for the parents or the other children > > St Mary at Lambeth > 7th September 1791 > Mary Ann Daughter of Anthony Formigini and Sarah > > I have so far found no evidence for anything but the above baptism and > the lady the researcher suggests she is later marries as FERMAN (or very > similar) in Derbyshire > > There may be some truth in the story but have not found it as yet > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > On 18/10/2012 01:15, or wrote: >> Hi. My gggrandmother seems to have had a child in Lambeth Workhouse, >> and I remember there were two mentions of the baby being baptized, >> one in the workhouse and the second in the local parish. Since the >> family appears to have an Italian last name, perhaps they could be >> found in the Roman Catholic records? Seems they been in the UK long >> enough to have Anglicized the kids first names, or perhaps the mother >> was British? >> >> >> Nancy > . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message