Marg, I think the lack of response to your query is not through lack of interest, it is simply because it is a difficult problem! I have spent some time looking at it but have not made much progress. William Henry Guest who was baptised at Weybridge can be found in several census entries, he was married first to a Catherine and then to a Susanna. Looking at his probable marriages, his signature is quite different to the signature of William Guest who was a witness at Benjamin's marriage. At his second marriage William says his father was William Guest, printer - of course this may simply have been a mistake, but possibly his father was actually a James William Guest? Something else that occurs to me is that James Guest senior may possibly have been married to (or cohabited with) two different Elizabeths. In which case it is possible that Benjamin may have been his stepson. Lori On 01/11/2012 19:59, Margaret Cambridge wrote: > While the list is quiet I have decided to put out my research dilema in hopes that someone with time on their hand could give me a boost in the right direction. I've come to a point where I can't think any more. > > > My great grandfather, Benjamin GUEST, according to census records was born about 1821/22, Lambeth He was a bootmaker. He married Margaret GRIFFITHS 28 January 1844, Lambeth. His father is recorded as James GUEST, Compositor. James was not recorded as deceased but I have not found him in 1841. > > I have been unable to find Benjamin's baptism or any positive identification of his father, James. > > I have however the following info: > 1. William GUEST witnessed Benjamin's marriage and I have found a baptism in 1813, Weybridge of a William Henry GUEST son of James GUEST, Printer, and Elizabeth. > > 2. Benjamin GUEST was a witness to the marriage of James Robert GUEST, 6 Aug 1843, St. Mary, Lambeth, Printer, son of James Robert GUEST, Compositor. And.......baptism of James Robert GUEST, 27 Sept 1807, Marylebone, son of James & Elizabeth. > > 3. Marriage of Mary GUEST, 15 Nov 1841 dau of James GUEST, Printer, to Stephen Romer. Haven't found a baptism for Mary but according to census records she was born about 1817 Marylebone. > > 4. Baptism St John the Evangelist, Westminster, of Charlotte Allen GUEST 17 Sept 1826 dau of James & Elizabeth, Printer. > > What are the odds that this is one family or were there many James GUEST in that time period who were printers/Compositors? Am I raking up leaves from the wrong tree? > > I would really appreciate someone having a look for Benjamin GUEST. Also giving any thoughts on how I can trace him and his father. I have been searching for so long for this family I can't think of where to go. > > Marg > >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada > . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lori, Thank you for taking so much time to help me. I really appreciate it. I don't think William was married to a Susanna. I have looked very closely at the 1851 census that has him with a wife Susanna but it actually is Catherine. I have thought because there is such an age span between William and Benjamin it is possible James was married a second time to another Elizabeth but can't find anything to prove that yet. I find it strange that I can't find any of them in the 1841 census and I have tried all kinds of spellings and **. It's quite possible Benjamin was in Bangor, Flintshire, Wales in 1841 as his wife, Margaret Griffiths, was born there but the 1841 census is not available for Bangor, Flintshire. (just bad luck) But where are the rest of the family? I appreciate you trying to help me Lori but don't spend any more time on this. Some day out of nowhere something will turn up for me and it will be very exciting. Thank you again, Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Edwards" <loriweb@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Marg, I think the lack of response to your query is not through lack of interest, it is simply because it is a difficult problem! I have spent some time looking at it but have not made much progress. William Henry Guest who was baptised at Weybridge can be found in several census entries, he was married first to a Catherine and then to a Susanna. Looking at his probable marriages, his signature is quite different to the signature of William Guest who was a witness at Benjamin's marriage. At his second marriage William says his father was William Guest, printer - of course this may simply have been a mistake, but possibly his father was actually a James William Guest? Something else that occurs to me is that James Guest senior may possibly have been married to (or cohabited with) two different Elizabeths. In which case it is possible that Benjamin may have been his stepson. Lori On 01/11/2012 19:59, Margaret Cambridge wrote: > While the list is quiet I have decided to put out my research dilema in > hopes that someone with time on their hand could give me a boost in the > right direction. I've come to a point where I can't think any more. > > > My great grandfather, Benjamin GUEST, according to census records was born > about 1821/22, Lambeth He was a bootmaker. He married Margaret GRIFFITHS > 28 January 1844, Lambeth. His father is recorded as James GUEST, > Compositor. James was not recorded as deceased but I have not found him > in 1841. > > I have been unable to find Benjamin's baptism or any positive > identification of his father, James. > > I have however the following info: > 1. William GUEST witnessed Benjamin's marriage and I have found a baptism > in 1813, Weybridge of a William Henry GUEST son of James GUEST, Printer, > and Elizabeth. > > 2. Benjamin GUEST was a witness to the marriage of James Robert GUEST, 6 > Aug 1843, St. Mary, Lambeth, Printer, son of James Robert GUEST, > Compositor. And.......baptism of James Robert GUEST, 27 Sept 1807, > Marylebone, son of James & Elizabeth. > > 3. Marriage of Mary GUEST, 15 Nov 1841 dau of James GUEST, Printer, to > Stephen Romer. Haven't found a baptism for Mary but according to census > records she was born about 1817 Marylebone. > > 4. Baptism St John the Evangelist, Westminster, of Charlotte Allen GUEST > 17 Sept 1826 dau of James & Elizabeth, Printer. > > What are the odds that this is one family or were there many James GUEST > in that time period who were printers/Compositors? Am I raking up > leaves from the wrong tree? > > I would really appreciate someone having a look for Benjamin GUEST. Also > giving any thoughts on how I can trace him and his father. I have been > searching for so long for this family I can't think of where to go. > > Marg > >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

>From The Era ( London, England ), Sunday, October 15, 1854; Issue 838.  DEATH. On the 4th August last, at Calcutta, from the effects of a fall, on board the ship Moonsoon, and to which he belonged, Mr. Frederick A. GWILT , eldest son of Mr. Alfred GWILT , of Union-street, Southwark.

Hi Lawrence, Thanks for responding. The list is so quiet but yours is the only response I got. I wonder where everyone is? Yes, Benjamin was transcribed as William Benjamin in 1861 and I have searched for a possible William B. but have found nothing. In 1871 he is once again transcribed as Benjamin, a widower, and is living with his daughter and her husband, David & Bessie LEE, in Richmond, Surrey. I haven't found a death for Benjamin or William Benjamin or his father James. When Benjamin's son Benjamin married in 1874 he was not recorded as deceased, (which doesn't always mean he wasn't) and having not been able to find him in 1881 its possible he died between 1874 and early 1891. But no luck finding him. Thanks again Lawrence. I appreciate your interest. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Pearse" <lawrencepearse@msn.com> I realise this does not answer your question, Marg, but I notice that Benjamin is recorded as William Benjamin Guest in the 1861 census (I have not yet found him after that). Have you looked for a birth/baptism of William Benjamin? And do you know what he was recorded as on death? Lawrence > From: talktomarg@shaw.ca > To: ENG-SURREY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:59:18 -0700 > Subject: [SRY] Help needed searching GUEST > > While the list is quiet I have decided to put out my research dilema in > hopes that someone with time on their hand could give me a boost in the > right direction. I've come to a point where I can't think any more. > > > My great grandfather, Benjamin GUEST, according to census records was born > about 1821/22, Lambeth He was a bootmaker. He married Margaret GRIFFITHS > 28 January 1844, Lambeth. His father is recorded as James GUEST, > Compositor. James was not recorded as deceased but I have not found him in > 1841. > > I have been unable to find Benjamin's baptism or any positive > identification of his father, James. > > I have however the following info: > 1. William GUEST witnessed Benjamin's marriage and I have found a baptism > in 1813, Weybridge of a William Henry GUEST son of James GUEST, Printer, > and Elizabeth. > > 2. Benjamin GUEST was a witness to the marriage of James Robert GUEST, 6 > Aug 1843, St. Mary, Lambeth, Printer, son of James Robert GUEST, > Compositor. And.......baptism of James Robert GUEST, 27 Sept 1807, > Marylebone, son of James & Elizabeth. > > 3. Marriage of Mary GUEST, 15 Nov 1841 dau of James GUEST, Printer, to > Stephen Romer. Haven't found a baptism for Mary but according to census > records she was born about 1817 Marylebone. > > 4. Baptism St John the Evangelist, Westminster, of Charlotte Allen GUEST > 17 Sept 1826 dau of James & Elizabeth, Printer. > > What are the odds that this is one family or were there many James GUEST > in that time period who were printers/Compositors? Am I raking up leaves > from the wrong tree? > > I would really appreciate someone having a look for Benjamin GUEST. Also > giving any thoughts on how I can trace him and his father. I have been > searching for so long for this family I can't think of where to go. > > Marg > >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada > . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message . *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5367 - Release Date: 11/01/12

WSFHS Open Day is tomorrow at Woking Leisure Centre 10am to 4.30pm Admission and Parking are FREE. All the information you could possibly need about how to get there, the stallholders and the research room is on the website at: www.wsfhs.org/pages/openday.php There are a number of free talks throughout the day - first come, first served. All the publications will be available including the two very latest CDs (29 & 30) from WSFHS { NB the prices on the website include postage and handling so at the Open Day the cost will be lower at special 'one day' prices.] Details :- CD 29 A 2nd COLLECTION OF METROPOLITAN SURREY BURIALS INDEX (including some RURAL PARISHES) Transcriptions and indexes. September 2012 An Index of over 247.000 burials – 231,480 from Metropolitan Surrey and 15,522 from Rural Surrey. The following parishes are included: METROPOLITAN SURREY: • Battersea Christ Church 1862-1866, (263); • Battersea St Mary 1778-1865, (9,266); • Bermondsey St James 1829-1854, 1862-1879, (7,595); • Bermondsey St Mary Magdalen 1674-1688, 1700-1724/5, 1738/9-1764, 1786-1794, 1838-54; 1864-1865, (45,434); • Brixton St Matthew 1825-1889, (4,453); • Camberwell St George 1826-1905, 1947-1954, (4,738); • Camberwell St Giles 1800-1812, (2,273); • Clapham 1808-1847, (6,602); • Kennington St Mark 1838-1839, 1841-1842, (1,424); • Lambeth St John the Evangelist 1825-1894, (17,185); • Newington Holy Trinity 1838- 1853, (128); • Newington St Mary 1707-1745, 1777-1854, (42,171); • Nunhead Cemetery 1842, (95); • Putney St Mary 1841-1866, (2,464); • Rotherhithe All Saints 1843-1888, (2,564); • Rotherhithe St Mary 1813- 1855, 1859-1878, (15,846); • Southwark Christ Church 1813-1838, 1850-1856, (10,141); • Southwark St George 1784-1800, (6,144); • Southwark St Olave 1778-1853, (21,223); • Southwark St Saviour 1722-1733, (9,586); • Streatham 1754-1862, (6,284); • Tooting 1841-1866, (1,112); • Walworth St Peter 1825- 1896, (12,049); • Wandsworth 1800-1822, (2,460) RURAL SURREY: • Camberley, Royal Military College Chapel, 1829-1877, (260); • Carshalton 1538-1704, (1,350); Farleigh 1663/4, (1); • Guildford Quakers 1795- 1836, (86); • Laleham (Ex-Middlesex), 1842-1889, (526); • Mitcham Zion Chapel 1821-1894, (333); • Richmond Workhouse 1914-1922, (289); • Staines (Ex-Middlesex), 1772-1866, (4,080); • Stanwell (Ex Middlesex), 1632-1658, 1788-1866, (2,395); • Sunbury (Ex-Middlesex), 1565-1866, (6,202) (See also CD18) CD 30 Ancient Parishes in the Guildford District - Transcriptions and Indexes. September 2012 The Parish Register Transcriptions and Indexes on this CD have been brought together from other publications produced by West Surrey FHS. They are, therefore, of varying quality but all are fully legible. There is no overall Index to the names within the records. Each Parish is individually indexed and usually each register, Baptism, Marriage or Burial has been indexed separately. In some cases there is more than one index covering different periods of time. The following parishes are included: • Albury: Baptisms 1559-1840, Marriages 1559-1738, Burials 1559-1840; • Compton: Baptisms 1587, 1639-1840, Marriages 1587, 1639-1839, Burials 1587, 1639-1840; • East Clandon: Baptisms 1558-1840, Marriages 1558-1838, Burials 1559-1840; • East Horsley: Baptisms 1666-1840, Marriages 1667-1837, Burials 1666-1840; • Godalming: Baptisms 1582-1840, Marriages 1583-1837, Burials 1583-1840; • Guildford Parishes: • Holy Trinity: Baptisms 1558-1840 Marriages 1558-1837 Burials 1558-1865; • St Mary: Baptisms 1540-1840 Marriages 1540-1837 Burials 1540-1865; • St Nicolas: Baptisms 1562-1840 Marriages 1561-1837 Burials 1561-1865; • Stoke-Next-Guildford: Baptisms 1663-1840 Marriages 1662-1837 Burials 1662-1865; • Merrow: Baptisms 1537-1840, Marriages 1541-1837, Burials 1536-1840; • Ockham: Baptisms 1568-1840, Marriages 1568-1840, Burials 1568-1840; • Pirbright: Baptisms 1574-1840, Marriages 1574-1837, Burials 1574-1840; • Send (with Ripley Chapel): Send Baptisms 1653-1764, 1792-1840, Send Marriages 1654-1837, Send Burials 1653-1764, 1783-1840; Ripley Baptisms 1740-1840, Ripley Marriages 1813-1836, Ripley Burials 1742-1840; • Shere: Baptisms 1547-1840, Marriages 1547-1840, Burials 1546-1840; • Wanborough: Baptisms 1561-1675, 1764-1774, Marriages 1561-1658, Burials 1591-1640, 1763-1786; • West Clandon: Baptisms 1536-1840, Marriages 1537-1837, Burials 1536-1840; • West Horsley: Baptisms 1606-1840, Marriages 1601-1837, Burials 1600-1840; • Wisley: Baptisms 1667-1901, Marriages 1666-1833, 1837-1901, Burials 1657-1901; • Woking St. Peter: Baptisms 1653-1865, Marriages 1653-1865, Burials 1653-1865; • Worplesdon: Baptisms 1538-1539, 1570-1840, Marriages 1570-1837, Burials 1570-1865. Please come and say 'Hello' if visiting. Best wishes. Ann

I realise this does not answer your question, Marg, but I notice that Benjamin is recorded as William Benjamin Guest in the 1861 census (I have not yet found him after that). Have you looked for a birth/baptism of William Benjamin? And do you know what he was recorded as on death? Lawrence > From: talktomarg@shaw.ca > To: ENG-SURREY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:59:18 -0700 > Subject: [SRY] Help needed searching GUEST > > While the list is quiet I have decided to put out my research dilema in hopes that someone with time on their hand could give me a boost in the right direction. I've come to a point where I can't think any more. > > > My great grandfather, Benjamin GUEST, according to census records was born about 1821/22, Lambeth He was a bootmaker. He married Margaret GRIFFITHS 28 January 1844, Lambeth. His father is recorded as James GUEST, Compositor. James was not recorded as deceased but I have not found him in 1841. > > I have been unable to find Benjamin's baptism or any positive identification of his father, James. > > I have however the following info: > 1. William GUEST witnessed Benjamin's marriage and I have found a baptism in 1813, Weybridge of a William Henry GUEST son of James GUEST, Printer, and Elizabeth. > > 2. Benjamin GUEST was a witness to the marriage of James Robert GUEST, 6 Aug 1843, St. Mary, Lambeth, Printer, son of James Robert GUEST, Compositor. And.......baptism of James Robert GUEST, 27 Sept 1807, Marylebone, son of James & Elizabeth. > > 3. Marriage of Mary GUEST, 15 Nov 1841 dau of James GUEST, Printer, to Stephen Romer. Haven't found a baptism for Mary but according to census records she was born about 1817 Marylebone. > > 4. Baptism St John the Evangelist, Westminster, of Charlotte Allen GUEST 17 Sept 1826 dau of James & Elizabeth, Printer. > > What are the odds that this is one family or were there many James GUEST in that time period who were printers/Compositors? Am I raking up leaves from the wrong tree? > > I would really appreciate someone having a look for Benjamin GUEST. Also giving any thoughts on how I can trace him and his father. I have been searching for so long for this family I can't think of where to go. > > Marg > >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada > . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all I thought I might share this little conundrum with you. My great-grandfather's brother, William John Bennett, left an amazing will wherein he gave all the married surnames of his five daughters. Sadly, after researching for decades I was only able to find a marriage and children for one of the daughters. The remainder appeared to be barren, or perhaps the husband so! One of the daughters, Jessie Leah Bennett (b. 1864) had, according to the will proven 1892, married a gent by the surname Slade. A few Slades around, and a couple of Jessie Slade's to be found in later census data, but nothing really concrete. A recently discovered living relative found a Jessie Leah Bennett marrying a William Millard in 1906 and passed it on to me. Yes indeed, indexes reveal just that, but the 1911 census shows Jessie Leah Millard, 48, born Westminster (perfect!) married and married 12 years, living as housekeeper to George Drake, widower 60, L.C.C. Carman, at 749 Old Kent Road, Peckham (Camberwell district) and a daughter to Jessie, Nellie Millard, 11 yrs, born Greenwich, Kent. Seems to be the same child born London, Greenwich, 1898 Dec Qtr 1d1076, named Nellie Millard. As to the marriage in 1906, Nellie therefore might be the child of William to a previous marriage, perhaps? And Jessie Leah (born 1864), could also be a widower at the time she married William in 1906. So, perhaps William John Bennett, Jessie's father, got it right in the will and that she was married to a Slade previously? Can't find an earlier marriage, that's the problem. Jessie could well be the one living in the 1891 census at 26 Fleming Rd., Newington with husband John Slade, printer & compositor, and in 1901 at 10 Lamlash St, Southwark thought this Jessie is shown both times to have been born Lambeth, not Westminster. The birth dates for this Jessie certainly fit. The possible step-daughter, Nellie, seems to have gone on to marry an Edward C Slade, Camberwell March Qtr 1920. Another curious complication! The Slade surname pops up again. I shall probably apply for the marriage certificate of William & Jessie, but in the meantime I was just wondering if listers had any thoughts on this "complicated" matter? It would seem that Jessie Leah did not produce any children. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

While the list is quiet I have decided to put out my research dilema in hopes that someone with time on their hand could give me a boost in the right direction. I've come to a point where I can't think any more. My great grandfather, Benjamin GUEST, according to census records was born about 1821/22, Lambeth He was a bootmaker. He married Margaret GRIFFITHS 28 January 1844, Lambeth. His father is recorded as James GUEST, Compositor. James was not recorded as deceased but I have not found him in 1841. I have been unable to find Benjamin's baptism or any positive identification of his father, James. I have however the following info: 1. William GUEST witnessed Benjamin's marriage and I have found a baptism in 1813, Weybridge of a William Henry GUEST son of James GUEST, Printer, and Elizabeth. 2. Benjamin GUEST was a witness to the marriage of James Robert GUEST, 6 Aug 1843, St. Mary, Lambeth, Printer, son of James Robert GUEST, Compositor. And.......baptism of James Robert GUEST, 27 Sept 1807, Marylebone, son of James & Elizabeth. 3. Marriage of Mary GUEST, 15 Nov 1841 dau of James GUEST, Printer, to Stephen Romer. Haven't found a baptism for Mary but according to census records she was born about 1817 Marylebone. 4. Baptism St John the Evangelist, Westminster, of Charlotte Allen GUEST 17 Sept 1826 dau of James & Elizabeth, Printer. What are the odds that this is one family or were there many James GUEST in that time period who were printers/Compositors? Am I raking up leaves from the wrong tree? I would really appreciate someone having a look for Benjamin GUEST. Also giving any thoughts on how I can trace him and his father. I have been searching for so long for this family I can't think of where to go. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

Graham, Just to kick this off, perhaps the surname was SHADE rather than SLADE? Try these census for George R SHADE, both in Greenwich? 1901 - RG13-539 folio 104 page 16 1891 - RG12-515 folio 6 page 7 Might give you another avenue to pursue? HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham Price I thought I might share this little conundrum with you. My great-grandfather's brother, William John Bennett, left an amazing will wherein he gave all the married surnames of his five daughters. Sadly, after researching for decades I was only able to find a marriage and children for one of the daughters. The remainder appeared to be barren, or perhaps the husband so! One of the daughters, Jessie Leah Bennett (b. 1864) had, according to the will proven 1892, married a gent by the surname Slade. A few Slades around, and a couple of Jessie Slade's to be found in later census data, but nothing really concrete. A recently discovered living relative found a Jessie Leah Bennett marrying a William Millard in 1906 and passed it on to me. Yes indeed, indexes reveal just that, but the 1911 census shows Jessie Leah Millard, 48, born Westminster (perfect!) married and married 12 years, living as housekeeper to George Drake, widower 60, L.C.C. Carman, at 749 Old Kent Road, Peckham (Camberwell district) and a daughter to Jessie, Nellie Millard, 11 yrs, born Greenwich, Kent. Seems to be the same child born London, Greenwich, 1898 Dec Qtr 1d1076, named Nellie Millard. As to the marriage in 1906, Nellie therefore might be the child of William to a previous marriage, perhaps? And Jessie Leah (born 1864), could also be a widower at the time she married William in 1906. So, perhaps William John Bennett, Jessie's father, got it right in the will and that she was married to a Slade previously? Can't find an earlier marriage, that's the problem. Jessie could well be the one living in the 1891 census at 26 Fleming Rd., Newington with husband John Slade, printer & compositor, and in 1901 at 10 Lamlash St, Southwark thought this Jessie is shown both times to have been born Lambeth, not Westminster. The birth dates for this Jessie certainly fit. The possible step-daughter, Nellie, seems to have gone on to marry an Edward C Slade, Camberwell March Qtr 1920. Another curious complication! The Slade surname pops up again. I shall probably apply for the marriage certificate of William & Jessie, but in the meantime I was just wondering if listers had any thoughts on this "complicated" matter? It would seem that Jessie Leah did not produce any children. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Hi Kathryn Many thanks for keeping your eye open for me I spent some time yesterday going through the 60 pages of apprenticeship pages for Lambeth, nothing new for my research but a very interesting exercise regardless, so many children being whisked away to pastures new, many to Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Lancashire etc quite an eye opener I wonder how many people are struggling to find someones origins who seemingly popped up from nowhere in Derbyshire What must they have gone through and at such an early age Re Joseph FORMIGINI, I wonder if "gone" means he legged it or gone for good ? they are a little thin on the ground these FORMIGINIs Much appreciate the help, all grist for the mill eh :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/10/2012 13:54, Kathryn Hughes wrote: > Hi I have been looking at the Norton Cuckney apprentice records today > and found that there are details including where from age, date of > birth, and when left. > > There were lots of apprentices that came from Lambeth Hackney, > Tottingham St Marylebone etc too many for me to transcribe. > > Anyone with ancestors that were apprenticed out of their parish should > check records in both parishes. The Norton Cuckney apprentice records > 1786-1805 can be ordered though the LDS Family history centres microfilm > No 1595763 it has a useful name index at the front so a quick check of > that will establish whether there is further information on your ancestors. > > As for Nivard's ancestor Joseph Formigini well (brace yourself) the > register was hard to read but it looked like in the column when left "in > xxxx? gone" the gone bit was very clear. A date of birth had been > written for him but crossed out and the same date written in the next > entry. I did try to take a photograph of the microfilm but it didn't > work I'm afraid. > > Joseph did not appear in the land tax or other parish chest records that > I looked at today > > best wishes > > Kathryn > > Kathryn Hughes PhD > WestYorkshireLives.co.uk > BradfordWW1.co.uk

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Hi I have been looking at the Norton Cuckney apprentice records today and found that there are details including where from age, date of birth, and when left. There were lots of apprentices that came from Lambeth Hackney, Tottingham St Marylebone etc too many for me to transcribe. Anyone with ancestors that were apprenticed out of their parish should check records in both parishes. The Norton Cuckney apprentice records 1786-1805 can be ordered though the LDS Family history centres microfilm No 1595763 it has a useful name index at the front so a quick check of that will establish whether there is further information on your ancestors. As for Nivard's ancestor Joseph Formigini well (brace yourself) the register was hard to read but it looked like in the column when left "in xxxx? gone" the gone bit was very clear. A date of birth had been written for him but crossed out and the same date written in the next entry. I did try to take a photograph of the microfilm but it didn't work I'm afraid. Joseph did not appear in the land tax or other parish chest records that I looked at today best wishes Kathryn Kathryn Hughes PhD WestYorkshireLives.co.uk BradfordWW1.co.uk

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Hello Ray I never received the image. I would love to receive any information on the Horn Family. I have information on the family that I could share. Bob -----Original Message----- From: rayh Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:27 PM To: eng-surrey Subject: [SRY] Rer. Horn family in 1841 census Hello List, Image sent off line. Ray Hudson -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10551 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen . *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, There is a HORN family living in Chelsea in 1841 who may fit the bill, although no parishes of birth are stated in this census. 1841 census HO107-688-14 folio 37 page 13 Victoria Yard, Chelsea David HORN 38 Coachman Y ( = born in Middlesex) Mary HORN 40 N William HORN 16 N Robert HORN 14 N Richard HORN 12 N Edward Alexander* 5 N * The surname HORN is not dittoed for Edward, suggesting that ALEXANDER may be his surname. But the 1851 census has a Richard HORN, coachman, aged 24, and his brother Edward HORN, aged 15, living in Chelsea and both born in Brighton. Family Search has baptisms for both Richard and Edward Alexander HORN at St Nicholas Brighton, parents David HORN and Mary. Some coachmen moved around a great deal for their work. In 1881 there is a William David HORN aged *65*, Master of a barge 'Polly' moored at Beckton in the Thames. He was born in Ripley, though apparently 10 years earlier than the one you're looking for. He has with him a (?) Alexander HORN, aged 15, Mate, born Fulham Middlesex (the census page is damaged and not fully legible). It's rather confusing! Are either of these the man you're looking for? HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of robertgascoigne I am seeking a family named HORN from Ripley. William David Horn was born 04 July 1825 to David Horn and Mary I have the 1841 census for Surrey but I cannot find them. Perhaps they moved but Family history was unavailable today, does SKS have this family. Bob

Thanks I hope to more regularly visit Walton or Woking meetings (and must join!!!)? -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Willis Sent: 23 October 2012 21:49 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Walton meetings Hi Bob apologies for not seeing this earlier. This evening's talk was Tithe Maps by Paul Blake. Irritating, I intended going. Next month: Tue 27th Nov - informal meeting: My favourite record keeping/tree drawing package. December - No meeting That's all I have oin Root and Branch.

Hi Bob apologies for not seeing this earlier. This evening's talk was Tithe Maps by Paul Blake. Irritating, I intended going. Next month: Tue 27th Nov - informal meeting: My favourite record keeping/tree drawing package. December - No meeting That's all I have oin Root and Branch. Chris Willis in Yateley, Hants ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Douglas" <bob@cotswan.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:34 PM Subject: [SRY] Walton meetings > HI > > > on the West Surrey FHS website there are no details for meetings in > Walton as there are for other locations > Are the meetings taking place and are there speakers? > > Thanks > Bob > >