Hello everyone, Could anyone help me to find the possible deaths and burials of my great grandfather's brother John William Russell born 24 December 1827 and baptised 20 January 1828 at St John Horselydown and his sister Clarissa Elizabeth Russell born 25 July 1831 and baptised 14 August 1831 also at St John Horselydown. Neither of these children appear in the Census of 1841 when their mother Elizabeth Russell 36 greengrocer born Surrey, Sarah Russell 17 trotter dresser born Surrey, Benjamin Russell 15 shipwright born Surrey William Russell 11 born Surrey and Samuel Russell 2 born Surrey were all recorded as living in Bermondsey Street, Leather Market. There is no sign at all of John William, and it seems quite likely that he had died as the next child was also William, and the only remote possibility for Clarissa Elizabeth that I can find of the right age is Elizabeth C Russell aged 9 living London born London. She does not seem a very likely candidate as Elizabeth is a very common name but if anyone could tell me who she was living with that might help to eliminate her from my enquiries!! Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated. I have found a Clarissa Russell in 1881 aged 47 dressmaker visitor Kent born Lambeth Surrey, and again in 1901 and 1911 but I believe this to be the daughter of Hillier Russell. I have a copy of her death certificate which describes her as 98, Spinster, Dressmaker of 15 Stellman Street, North Hackney, daughter of Hillier Russell Wine Agent (Deceased). This Clarissa was baptised 20 Jul 1831 at Lambeth St Mary. All very confusing! I have also eliminated Clarissa Elizabeth Russell who married George Smyth Windham Jun 1/4 1865 at Westminster, she died Mar 1/4 1908 in the Isle of Wight aged 70. Pauline Taylor, Colchester. Britain's First City.

Wonder if Ivy Trott is still on this list please??? Need help with S. Africa and I know she had roots there.. if anyone knows off her, or email please bring this email to her attention thanks... -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

Name: Frederick D Chalk Private Royal Marines at Royal Marine Depot Walmer Age in 1911: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Gender: Male Birth Place: Penge, Surrey Civil parish: Walmer County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address: Royal Marine Depot, Walmer Marital Status: Single Occupation: Private Royal Marines Registration district: Eastry Registration District Number: 64 Sub-registration district: Deal ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 4579 From: "Chalk" <chalkie_at_5days@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:55 AM Subject: [SRY] Frederick Dudley CHALK b.1891 Penge > Hi > > Could someone look for Frederick or could be just Dudley in 1911, I have a > lead but do not have access myself. > > Reg. District: Eastry > Sub District: Deal > Parish: Walmer > > Thanks > > Nigel Chalk > > . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to everyone for prompt response. Hi Sue, nice to hear from you, everything OK at this end thanks.

Hi Nigel, He is a Private in the Royal Marines at the Royal Marine Depot, Walmer.  Aged 20 years, place of birth Penge, Surrey. Hope all is well with you. Best wishes, Sue ---------------------------------------- > From: chalkie_at_5days@ntlworld.com > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:55:01 +0000 > Subject: [SRY] Frederick Dudley CHALK b.1891 Penge > > Hi > > Could someone look for Frederick or could be just Dudley in 1911, I have a > lead but do not have access myself. > > Reg. District: Eastry > Sub District: Deal > Parish: Walmer > > Thanks > > Nigel Chalk > > . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Could someone look for Frederick or could be just Dudley in 1911, I have a lead but do not have access myself. Reg. District: Eastry Sub District: Deal Parish: Walmer Thanks Nigel Chalk

Can any of the experts help me in my search, as I have exhausted all the avenues I know Henry James HANCOCK born 29th August 1841 Box Wiltshire married Ann GRIFFITHS (nee SMITH) on 9th July 1898 at St Barnabas church Kennington. They were widower and widow respectively. I can find them on the 1911 Census at 42 Victoria Road NW London. On the 1901 Census I can find no trace. There is a Henry HANCOCK born 1843 in Box, but he has different parents, and is not my Henry. I have traced Henry on the 1861 Census for Bradford Wiltshire, living with a wife Mary born Broughton Wiltshire and son Albert age 5m. In 1871 there is no trace of either In 1881 he is in Bow London with a wife Sarah born Graves End and 5 children, Alice, Arthur, Herbert, Albert, Olive. In the 1891 Census for Fulham London I find a Henry born 1849 Bristol Gloucestershire with wife Florence born 1861 Southall Middlesex and 3 of the children from 1881, Arthur, Albert, Olive. Their ages and place of birth match, and tie in with the GRO indexes from Freebmd I can find no verifiable marriages for any of the wives except Ann GRIFFITHS I have tried the online electoral rolls with no verifiable success except for Henry and Ann in 1920 at Weedington Street London I have been through Ancestry and Findmypast to get the originals, and tried most of the online suppliers of Census information as well as Familysearch, using their free indexes to no avail Many thanks

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CHALK, Frederick D Single M 20 1891 Private Royal Marines Surrey Penge RG14PN4579 RD64 SD4 ED16 SN9999 Reg. District: Eastry Sub District: Deal Parish: Walmer Enum. District: 16 Address: Walmer County: Kent Regards Hazel -----Original Message----- From: Chalk <chalkie_at_5days@ntlworld.com> To: eng-surrey <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:21 Subject: [SRY] Frederick Dudley CHALK b.1891 Penge Hi Could someone look for Frederick or could be just Dudley in 1911, I have a lead but do not have access myself.

Dear Yvonne, Thanks for the reminder of how much we owe to all these men who gave their lives in that awful conflict of World War 1. I would like to remember Abraham Tearoe who had a truly tragic life. Born 07 August 1886 at 4 Berrimans Lane Norwood as one of four children born to Abraham Tearoe and Sarah Shread not much is known about his early life but he was admitted to Barnardos on 31 May 1900 from St Giles. From there he was sent to Canada to a life of virtual slavery. Later, after initially being rejected, he was accepted by the Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force in December 1917. He was sent to France where his death is recorded in War Diaries ' DENAIN 27 Rue de Villiers 1.11.18 I other rank killed in action Sapper Teroe'. My son and I discovered where Abraham is buried in France and recently made a pilgrimage to visit his grave. Standing by his graveside in a beautiful small cemetery is something I shall never forget. He was the only Canadian in that cemetery, and it is almost certain that we are the only blood relatives of his ever to visit the grave. It brought tears to the eyes of both of us. Thank you Abraham for your sacrifice. Pauline Taylor Colchester, Britian's first city. -------------------------------------------------- From: " Yvonne Hempston" <beeandwhy@optusnet.com.au> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:33 PM To: "Eng-Surrey List" <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SRY] 11 November - Remembrance Day > Hi Everyone > > As it is Remembrance Sunday I would like to remember Edward James Dobson > who lost his life at the age of 29 in March 1918 at Wancourt in France. I > have only just been given his information and he was a second cousin of > mine from Pirbright, Surrey. > > > They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; > Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn, > At the going down of the sun and in the morning, > We will remember them. > > Yvonne Hempston (Stonard) > Melb. Aust. > . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that Nivard. Do we have a marriage for Joseph & Hannah please?

Hi again The criminal record presumably has the birthplace as given by the criminal If that person had lived from an early age in that location they may believe that was their birthplace (or wanted others to believe it was) Given the scarcity of the name I would seriously consider the one in Twickenham and see if you can find anything else on that man Hannah may be the daughter of Joseph and Hannah Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 11/11/2012 09:54, Chalk wrote: > Birth Source from criminal record. > > > Hi Nigel > > The only one I can find happens to be in the right time frame and > roughly in the area (13 miles from Southwark, what is the source of the > Southwark birthplace?) > > London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about > Zachariah Chalk > Name: Zachariah Chalk > Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1812

Hi Everyone As it is Remembrance Sunday I would like to remember Edward James Dobson who lost his life at the age of 29 in March 1918 at Wancourt in France. I have only just been given his information and he was a second cousin of mine from Pirbright, Surrey. They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn, At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them. Yvonne Hempston (Stonard) Melb. Aust.

Remembering family members who survived wars but carried the scars until the end of their lives.   Colour Sergeant Lewis Francis Wigzell Wiltshire Regiment WW1   Cpl Louis Henry Wigzell RAF d 21.4.2012 Burma WW2   Flight Engineer Kenneth Letts DFM d 2011 RAF Bomber Command WW2   Petty Officer Henry Joseph Cress RN d 23.6.2011 WW2 ________________________________ From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> To: Surrey List <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2012, 9:44 Subject: [SRY] Lest We Forget Armistice Day Roll Call 2012 Remembering the fallen in the many conflicts over the centuries and those who survived, none unaffected by their experiences. Remembering especially: ANDOW, Ernest Wilfred R Private Gloucestershire Regiment 26 7/6/1917 WWI ANDOW, James Percy Motor Mechanic Royal Navy 20 2/2/1943 WWII AHERN, John    2nd Lt    US Army Air Corps 379 Heavy Bomber Group O-926285    22    16/12/1944    WWII    http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ltjahern.htm CHARLESTON John  Gunner  Royal Artillery 68th (1st Rifle Battalion The Monmouthshire Regiment)  Searchlight Regiment 34 6/4/1942 www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2691994/CHARLESTON,%20JOHN COLLINGRIDGE, Elizabeth  Civilian  64  14/11/1940 WWII COLLINGRIDGE, Eric Edward  Petty Officer  Royal Navy 50 19/12/1978 Suez COLLINGRIDGE, Horatio Montefiore Private Army 32 4 May 1913 Boer War COLLINGRIDGE,  John  Sergeant  Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 1575031  20 28 Jan 1943  WWII  CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1084736 COLLINGRIDGE, Russell Lewis  Private Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regiment) 202192  16  8/10/1916  WWI CUNNINGHAM, Robert Alexander     Sqn Ldr RAF    56144    81    6/2004    WWII    -       Remembered with affection JOYCE, Frank Rupert Private Royal Fusiliers SP/2615  19  31/7/1916 WWI CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=797226 HEWETT, Alec Thomas Flying Officer 77 Sqdn Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 154823 27 12 Jan 1945 WWII CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1800011 HEWETT, Alec Thomas (DCM) Bmbr  Army    87      9/1986          WWI PARKER, Clarence Conrad    Private    Army    51    10/11/1948    WWI PONSFORD Albert Edward    Army (Gurkhas)    72    3/2/1982    WWII PYE John Thomas  Private    Army    83    1/5/1973    WWI -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk/ . *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com .   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Birth Source from criminal record. Hi Nigel The only one I can find happens to be in the right time frame and roughly in the area (13 miles from Southwark, what is the source of the Southwark birthplace?) London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Zachariah Chalk Name: Zachariah Chalk Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1812 Parish: St Mary the Virgin, Twickenham County: Kent *** >>> Middlesex Borough: Richmond upon Thames Parent(s): Chalk, Hannah Chalk Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register The register actually records Zachariah daughter of Hannah CHALK 14th June 1812 (the "daughter" may be a simple clerical error) St Mary the Virgin Twickenham would be Middlesex not Kent Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/11/2012 17:18, Chalk wrote:

Remembering the fallen in the many conflicts over the centuries and those who survived, none unaffected by their experiences. Remembering especially: ANDOW, Ernest Wilfred R Private Gloucestershire Regiment 26 7/6/1917 WWI ANDOW, James Percy Motor Mechanic Royal Navy 20 2/2/1943 WWII AHERN, John 2nd Lt US Army Air Corps 379 Heavy Bomber Group O-926285 22 16/12/1944 WWII http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ltjahern.htm CHARLESTON John Gunner Royal Artillery 68th (1st Rifle Battalion The Monmouthshire Regiment) Searchlight Regiment 34 6/4/1942 www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2691994/CHARLESTON,%20JOHN COLLINGRIDGE, Elizabeth Civilian 64 14/11/1940 WWII COLLINGRIDGE, Eric Edward Petty Officer Royal Navy 50 19/12/1978 Suez COLLINGRIDGE, Horatio Montefiore Private Army 32 4 May 1913 Boer War COLLINGRIDGE, John Sergeant Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 1575031 20 28 Jan 1943 WWII CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1084736 COLLINGRIDGE, Russell Lewis Private Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regiment) 202192 16 8/10/1916 WWI CUNNINGHAM, Robert Alexander Sqn Ldr RAF 56144 81 6/2004 WWII - Remembered with affection JOYCE, Frank Rupert Private Royal Fusiliers SP/2615 19 31/7/1916 WWI CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=797226 HEWETT, Alec Thomas Flying Officer 77 Sqdn Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 154823 27 12 Jan 1945 WWII CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1800011 HEWETT, Alec Thomas (DCM) Bmbr Army 87 9/1986 WWI PARKER, Clarence Conrad Private Army 51 10/11/1948 WWI PONSFORD Albert Edward Army (Gurkhas) 72 3/2/1982 WWII PYE John Thomas Private Army 83 1/5/1973 WWI -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Margaret Cambridge wrote: > Hi Nigel, > What do you already have on Zachariah? Do you have the baptism as I have > come across one 14 June 1812 > St Mary the Virgin, Twickenham, Kent that is recorded as Zachariah daughter > of Hannah Chalk > > I always thought Twickenham was in Surrey Reg Dist then later Middlesex but > I've been known to be wrong about some things...-)) You're not wrong :)) The only Twickenham I know is now Middlesex and on the wrong side to be in Kent. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Further to my last From Ancestry Criminal Registers Surrey October 1828 sessions Zachariah CHALK 7 years for Larceny There is a note above his name, I am unsure if it refers to him or the name above, it states "als SWANSON" I would take that to be alias SWANSON Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/11/2012 17:18, Chalk wrote: > Hi > > I am new to this list and am researching the CHALK(E) families of Surrey. > > One in particular I am looking for is the family of Zachariah CHALK born abt > 1811 Southwark, he is shipped to Tasmania in 1828. Nothing on IGI. > > Would also like to hear from anyone with CHALK(E) in their tree > > Any help appreciated > > Nigel CHALK

Hi Nigel The only one I can find happens to be in the right time frame and roughly in the area (13 miles from Southwark, what is the source of the Southwark birthplace?) London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Zachariah Chalk Name: Zachariah Chalk Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1812 Parish: St Mary the Virgin, Twickenham County: Kent *** >>> Middlesex Borough: Richmond upon Thames Parent(s): Chalk, Hannah Chalk Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register The register actually records Zachariah daughter of Hannah CHALK 14th June 1812 (the "daughter" may be a simple clerical error) St Mary the Virgin Twickenham would be Middlesex not Kent Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/11/2012 17:18, Chalk wrote: > Hi > > I am new to this list and am researching the CHALK(E) families of Surrey. > > One in particular I am looking for is the family of Zachariah CHALK born abt > 1811 Southwark, he is shipped to Tasmania in 1828. Nothing on IGI. > > Would also like to hear from anyone with CHALK(E) in their tree > > Any help appreciated > > Nigel CHALK

Hi I am new to this list and am researching the CHALK(E) families of Surrey. One in particular I am looking for is the family of Zachariah CHALK born abt 1811 Southwark, he is shipped to Tasmania in 1828.  Nothing on IGI. Would also like to hear from anyone with CHALK(E) in their tree Any help appreciated Nigel CHALK