Mick, for what it's worth I agree with you that the St Sepulchre baptisms after March 1787 don't seem to be there. The "missing" register seems to be Guildhall Ms. 7221/2 (Baptisms, 1787-1808). The images that currently appear under the 1787-1808 tab are actually part of Ms. 7223/2 (Burials, 1752-74), and they duplicate some of those under the 1752-74 tab. I think Cliff Webb will eventually be analysing and reporting in detail on the coverage for City of London parishes, as he recently did for Middlesex parishes (see that list's archives). So perhaps he will find them for us! HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mick Turley Searching for baptisms/births for March 1787 on, The link given for the LMA copies of the archive (1787--1808) leads to Burials for 1750 odd. Has anyone else found this. any advice etc. TiA. Mick Turley

Can anyone please give me further information on the Asylum, which when > I looked for it on the net, I found it listed as an Alms house type > accomodation? Would her husband have had to have been a shoemaker, for > her to go into this home? > > Any help much appreciated. Thank you in advance. > Best wishes.....Robyn Arkinstall. Central Coast, NSW, Australia ---- Hi List, Firstly, I'd like to say a big thank you to Andy and Caroline for answering my above query, and for giving such complete and knowledgeable answers, it is much appreciated and I learned a lot from them. Andy the 1841C reference was as follows: 1841C (Ref:H0107/727 8 enumeration Schedule no.6 page 5 - line 12) for the City of London and the Parish of St.Giles, Cripplegate living at Beech Street, Barbican was: Jane NEATE 65 Born in the County...N Seemingly in the same house, although not shown as living with her in the census record below were: A U BRYANT 35 Tin Plater ? Born in the County....Y Ann BRYANT 70 Ind Born in the County....N Ann KINDlE ? 64 Born in the County....Y John FIELD 19 M.S. Born in the County.....N AU was Adam Uriah Bryant who was Jane's nephew and her sister was Ann (nee Arkinstall)Bryant. Jane's husband's name was James and it appears that he was deceased before the 1841C and her sister Ann Bryant died in the Sept Qtr of 1841. (Uriah, Ann's husband gets mentions in some "Old Bailey" proceedings.) So it looks like the death certificate I purchased wasn't for my Jane Neate, so it's back to the drawing board with her. Written family history says that her grand nephew Francis Arkinstall, grandson of her brother Adam who was in the Caribbean, was sent back to London in the 1820's to be raised by his grandfather Adam Arkinstall and his aunt Mrs. Neate. Do you have any suggestions for me as to how I go finding out the truth? Many thanks, Robyn Arkinstall. Central Coast, NSW, Australia

Searching for baptisms/births for March 1787 on, The link given for the LMA copies of the archive (1787--1808) leads to Burials for 1750 odd. Has anyone else found this. any advice etc. TiA. Mick Turley

Hi If anyone is interested I have found this marriage entry in the St, Mary Magdelen, Bermondsey parish records. Edward Martin of Ewell in the county of Surrey Bachelor & Elizabeth Wells of Croydon Spinster : Licence being first obtained were married January 26 1732. Regards Robin

Hi Judy & Bev & subscribers to this list I would be most grateful to be included in your connections to your (SRY) LAWES research, after all I am list administrator of the Rootsweb list LAWS-UK & Registrar this last 25 years of the LAWS FAMILY REGISTER www.lawsfamilyregister.org.uk . We are the focal point for all LAW, LAWE, LAWES, LAWS, LAWSE research worldwide and have been a registered name with the GUILD OF ONE-NAME-STUDIES www.one-name.org almost since its inception. John P Laws Registrar LAWS FAMILY REGISTER registrar@lawsfamilyregister.org.uk Website www.lawsfamilyregister.org.uk (Member 674, Guild of One-Name Studies, since 1984) Researching LAW, LAWE, LAWES, LAWS, LAWSE, McLAW & McLAWS & allied families worldwide. Moderator: LAW & LAWS-UK mailing lists and message boards at Rootsweb

I found them on the main Ancestry web site - they have the filmed versions of the London parish church registers available to view - most are searchable although the one running from the 1500's doesn't seem to be, you have to look at each church individually. You need to look under the New Records http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/recent.aspx London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 - Updated 9/15/2009 London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 - Updated 9/15/2009 London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 9/14/2009 London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 9/14/2009 Regards, Dot Dorothy Holden Dover Kent England There are three things that can never be retrieved- the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity I volunteer for the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness website www.raogk.org

Hello everyone, I am really struggling to find my 5th ggrandparents. They are Stephen STEVENS and Martha BAMFORD. Stephen was from Beddington, Surrey and I don't know where Martha was from. Martha died in 1801 and is buried at Croydon. The information above has been taken from the marr. certificate of their son (the only child that I have been able to find), John STEVENS born 1782 in West Ham, Essex, he marr. Jane BEVANS. I am not sure if Stephen and Martha were originally Quakers when they marr. but Martha was buried ina Friends Burial Ground and their son John was a Quaker and married a Quaker. However, it is the birth of Stephen STEVENS and Martha BAMFORD that I am really after, so if there is SKS out there that could lead me in the right direction or help me locate them I would be most appreciative. Best wishes Maree

The LMA's Digitisation page (http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/LGNL_Services/Leisure_and_cultur e/Records_and_archives/Ancestry+digitisation.htm) gives a list. They are not doing badly so far - it would be nice if the school admission registers were indeed online in 2009! The indexed versions of the earlier parish registers are something to look forward to as well, but the huge variation in style of these from parish to parish (not to mention the condition of some of the registers themselves) must be giving them a bit of a headache. Best wishes Caroline > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Neil & Jan Hearn > Sent: 12 October 2009 22:11 > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > > Hello, > I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone > know which ones they will be please? > > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:31 AM > Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > > > > Hi Carole > > > > The clue is in the name - *parish* registers refer to the registers > of the > > Established Church (i.e. the Church of England) :-) > > > > You won't find any registers of Roman Catholic churches (which are > > officially termed "missions" not "parishes") in the collection, and > they are > > very hard to research (try http://www.catholic- > library.org.uk/index.html for > > information), though between 1754 and 1837 your Catholic ancestors > would > > have had to marry in the Church of England. This applied to the > protestant > > non-conformists too (though not to Quakers or Jews who were allowed > to > > maintain their own records, on the basis that these were accepted to > be very > > well regulated). > > > > So every marriage, if it took place in London, should be there until > 1837, > > unless it took place within the many large churches in the City of > > Westminster (which covers a large part of the central area). These > > registers are held by the Westminster Archive Centre, not the LMA or > the > > Guildhall Library, so are not part of the project in question. > > > > After 1837, you will only find marriages which took place in C of E > > churches. For the rest (Catholic, non-conformist, Jewish etc), and > anything > > in Westminster, you are best off relying on marriage certificates via > the > > civil registration system. > > > > As for baptisms, these were always optional, so your ancestors may > just not > > have been very godly! If they were non-conformists (including > Quakers), try > > the non-parochial registers available via subscription of pay-per- > view at > > www.thegenealogist.co.uk. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > >> > >> Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London > area > >> Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other > >> denominations? > >> > >> > >> > >> I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been > >> Catholic. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> > >> Carole Brett > >> > >> *************************************** > >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM > AWAY** > >> superfluous old messages in replies. > >> > >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > >> the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan I can't anything on Ancestry re new records. Perhaps to email them? Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > Hello, > I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone > know which ones they will be please? > > > Jan > >

Hi Carole The clue is in the name - *parish* registers refer to the registers of the Established Church (i.e. the Church of England) :-) You won't find any registers of Roman Catholic churches (which are officially termed "missions" not "parishes") in the collection, and they are very hard to research (try http://www.catholic-library.org.uk/index.html for information), though between 1754 and 1837 your Catholic ancestors would have had to marry in the Church of England. This applied to the protestant non-conformists too (though not to Quakers or Jews who were allowed to maintain their own records, on the basis that these were accepted to be very well regulated). So every marriage, if it took place in London, should be there until 1837, unless it took place within the many large churches in the City of Westminster (which covers a large part of the central area). These registers are held by the Westminster Archive Centre, not the LMA or the Guildhall Library, so are not part of the project in question. After 1837, you will only find marriages which took place in C of E churches. For the rest (Catholic, non-conformist, Jewish etc), and anything in Westminster, you are best off relying on marriage certificates via the civil registration system. As for baptisms, these were always optional, so your ancestors may just not have been very godly! If they were non-conformists (including Quakers), try the non-parochial registers available via subscription of pay-per-view at www.thegenealogist.co.uk. Hope this helps Caroline > > Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London area > Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other > denominations? > > > > I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been > Catholic. > > > > Thanks > > > > Carole Brett > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London area Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other denominations? I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been Catholic. Thanks Carole Brett

Hi, I have just received a copy of a death certificate for a Jane NEATE aged 73 years whose death on the 14/3/1857 took place at the Shoemakers Asylum, Mortlake. Her occupation was listed as a Gentlewoman, and the informant of the death details was a person from the Asylum. As English certificates are scant on imformation, I still don't know if this lady was a relative or not. I had hoped she'd be living with or have had a relative as the informant of her death details, but no such luck. In the 1841C she was living in St.Giles, Cripplegate Parish with relatives, but I can't find her on the 1851C and this was the Certificate that I found which could/may have fitted. Can anyone please give me further information on the Asylum, which when I looked for it on the net, I found it listed as an Alms house type accomodation? Would her husband have had to have been a shoemaker, for her to go into this home? Any help much appreciated. Thank you in advance. Beat wishes.....Robyn Arkinstall. Central Coast, NSW, Australia

Hi Robyn Despite the fact that the will I mentioned earlier describes Jane as a spinster, I wouldn't rule her out altogether, as NEATE is really quite an unusual name. Moreover, I now see a will for a Thomas ARKINSTALL, Shoemaker, which might just establish a connection to the shoe trade. James NEATE's will is also there, I think, proved in 1831. You have some lovely, distinctive names to play with there! And the family seems to have been of enough substance to have had property to bequeath, so you may find yourself downloading quite a number of PCC wills - they can, if you are lucky, be an absolutely wonderful resource. Hope this helps Caroline > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robyn & Bill Arkinstall > Sent: 12 October 2009 14:50 > To: Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SRY] Mortlake Shoemaker's Asylum > > Can anyone please give me further information on the Asylum, which when > > I looked for it on the net, I found it listed as an Alms house type > > accomodation? Would her husband have had to have been a shoemaker, > for > > her to go into this home? > > > > Any help much appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > Best wishes.....Robyn Arkinstall. Central Coast, NSW, Australia > ---- > Hi List, > > Firstly, I'd like to say a big thank you to Andy and Caroline for > answering my above query, and for giving such complete and > knowledgeable answers, it is much appreciated and I learned a lot from > them. > > Andy the 1841C reference was as follows: > 1841C (Ref:H0107/727 8 enumeration Schedule no.6 page 5 - line 12) > for the City of London and the Parish of St.Giles, Cripplegate living > at Beech Street, Barbican was: > Jane NEATE 65 Born in the County...N > Seemingly in the same house, although not shown as living with her in > the census record below were: > A U BRYANT 35 Tin Plater ? Born in the County....Y > Ann BRYANT 70 Ind Born in the County....N > Ann KINDlE ? 64 Born in the > County....Y > John FIELD 19 M.S. Born in the County.....N > > AU was Adam Uriah Bryant who was Jane's nephew and her sister was Ann > (nee Arkinstall)Bryant. Jane's husband's name was James and it appears > that he was deceased before the 1841C and her sister Ann Bryant died in > the Sept Qtr of 1841. (Uriah, Ann's husband gets mentions in some "Old > Bailey" proceedings.) > > So it looks like the death certificate I purchased wasn't for my Jane > Neate, so it's back to the drawing board with her. Written family > history says that her grand nephew Francis Arkinstall, grandson of her > brother Adam who was in the Caribbean, was sent back to London in the > 1820's to be raised by his grandfather Adam Arkinstall and his aunt > Mrs. Neate. Do you have any suggestions for me as to how I go finding > out the truth? > > Many thanks, > Robyn Arkinstall. Central Coast, NSW, Australia > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Details of the 1915 MARTIN/LAWES marriage sent off list. Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bev Harsh Has anyone any information on Beatrice Ellen LAWES who was born in Kingston district in 1912? She was the daughter of Rose Lawes and had an older sister or halfsister Rose Winifred Brown Lawes. I have been told that Beatrice had two sons before she was married, these could still be living. After their birth she married, that is all I have been told. There is a marriage in 1915 of a Rose Lawes to a Thomas Charles MARTIN in Kingston district. This could be my Rose, can anyone confirm? My Rose was born in 1887, her father was William George LAWES. Not a lot to go on I know, but I live in hope that someone has some information on any of these people (not previous to William George Lawes, I have that and it is not Surrey!) or is related, or maybe just maybe remembers Rose or Beatrice!! Thanks Bev

This is a difficult area. Gipsy Hill (the road, as opposed to the general area) runs through three London Boroughs -- Southwark, Lambeth and (just) Croydon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gipsy_Hill Versailles Road, on the other hand, is in the London Borough of Bromley. Good luck! Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Railton Thanks Rod. I will contact Southwark. David -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com Versailles Road shows on the London A-Z map, so yes, it still exists. David, are you aware that street re-numbering has sometimes taken place? Much of this happened, in London anyway, in the late 1930's, so, for example, no. 26? as was, might not be no. 26 now. A phone-call to the Borough Council Highways Dept (Southwark in this case, I think), should set your mind at rest.

Hello List Has anyone any information on Beatrice Ellen LAWES who was born in Kingston district in 1912? She was the daughter of Rose Lawes and had an older sister or halfsister Rose Winifred Brown Lawes. I have been told that Beatrice had two sons before she was married, these could still be living. After their birth she married, that is all I have been told. There is a marriage in 1915 of a Rose Lawes to a Thomas Charles MARTIN in Kingston district. This could be my Rose, can anyone confirm? My Rose was born in 1887, her father was William George LAWES. Not a lot to go on I know, but I live in hope that someone has some information on any of these people (not previous to William George Lawes, I have that and it is not Surrey!) or is related, or maybe just maybe remembers Rose or Beatrice!! Thanks Bev

Thanks Rod. I will contact Southwark. David -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rodfreeman27@talktalk.net Sent: 12 October 2009 12:41 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Photographs - SE19 Versailles Road shows on the London A-Z map, so yes, it still exists. David, are you aware that street re-numbering has sometimes taken place? Much of this happened, in London anyway, in the late 1930's, so, for example, no. 26? as was, might not be no. 26 now. A phone-call to the Borough Council Highways Dept (Southwark in this case, I think), should set your mind at rest. Rod. Cold and sunny in Notting Hill, West London. -----Original Message----- From: Richard M Brown <brownrichardm@yahoo.co.uk> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 6:24 Subject: Re: [SRY] Photographs - SE19 Google earth's street view shows Gipsy Hill, but not Versailles Road. Multi map is also worth a try - and it contains a birds eye view feature for much of Greater?London.? A great feature as you can look at a building from 4 angles.? Views taken on different days which can be amusing. ?Richard Brown Bromley Kent ________________________________ From: Seemark <Seemark@btopenworld.com> To: railton.david@btinternet.com; eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 11 October, 2009 17:14:28 Subject: Re: [SRY] Photographs - SE19 Hi David - might even be worth searching google earth - won't show you what they used to look like but you should be able to see what they look like today. Cyndi in Leighton Buzzard, Beds UK So much to learn, so little time ? ----- Original Message ----- ? From: David Railton ? To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com ? Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 2:22 PM ? Subject: [SRY] Photographs - SE19 ? Is there anyone on the list who lives in or near SE19 and who could, without ? too much trouble, take some photographs for me of properties in the area? ? ? The houses I am interested in are at 62, Gipsy Hill and 26, Versailles Road. ? I don't know the area but I have seen them both described as being in Upper ? Norwood. ? ? My wife's father lived at the former between 1912 and 1917 and at the later ? from 1917 to 1922. I am assuming that these roads have not been redeveloped ? since then. ? ? Thank you in anticipation. ? ? David ? *************************************** ? Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. ? List Admin can be contacted at:? Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ? ? ? ------------------------------- ? To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:? Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again, Robyn I have just noticed that there is a PCC will for a Jane NEATE, spinster, proved in April 1857. Although this Jane is described as being "of Upper Holloway, Middlesex", it could very well be the same one who died in Mortlake, as the will could have been written some time before she moved into the almshouses. It may be worth downloading the will (3.50GBP) from the National Archives website (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp?WT.hp=Wills). Best wishes Caroline

Hi Robyn I've just checked the 1851 census and she's with her sister in Soho. However I can only find a Jane NEATE in 1841c at St Luke Finsbury. What's the census details for your 1841c Jane in St Giles? Jane Neate Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: St Anne Soho, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 96 Household Members: Name Age Mary Tanner 67 Jane Neate 67 HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn & Bill Arkinstall" <erindra@netspace.net.au> To: <Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: [SRY] Mortlake Shoemaker's Asylum > Hi, > > I have just received a copy of a death certificate for a Jane NEATE aged > 73 years whose death on the 14/3/1857 took place at the Shoemakers > Asylum, Mortlake. Her occupation was listed as a Gentlewoman, and the > informant of the death details was a person from the Asylum. > > As English certificates are scant on imformation, I still don't know if > this lady was a relative or not. I had hoped she'd be living with or > have had a relative as the informant of her death details, but no such > luck. > In the 1841C she was living in St.Giles, Cripplegate Parish with > relatives, but I can't find her on the 1851C and this was the > Certificate that I found which could/may have fitted. > > Can anyone please give me further information on the Asylum, which when > I looked for it on the net, I found it listed as an Alms house type > accomodation? Would her husband have had to have been a shoemaker, for > her to go into this home? > > Any help much appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > Beat wishes.....Robyn Arkinstall. Central Coast, NSW, Australia > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Robyn These almshouses were founded and run by the Master Boot and Shoemakers' Provident and Benevolent Institution, which later became the Boot Trade Benevolent Society and now seems to be known as "Footwear Friends" (http://www.fbscharity.org.uk/history.php). Your lady's husband (or possibly father, brother or son) would almost certainly have had to have been in that trade for her to qualify for this housing. There seem to be some records of the charity in the Guildhall Library Manuscripts Section (see http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/21.htm). The access situation for these records is slightly complicated at the moment, as the Manuscripts Section is undergoing major refurbishment and most of the staff have temporarily relocated (with some of their records) to the LMA. But as you are "down under", it would make most sense for you to email them (at manuscripts.guildhall@cityoflondon.gov.uk) for advice. Hope this helps Caroline > > Can anyone please give me further information on the Asylum, which when > I looked for it on the net, I found it listed as an Alms house type > accomodation? Would her husband have had to have been a shoemaker, for > her to go into this home? > > Any help much appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > Beat wishes.....Robyn Arkinstall. Central Coast, NSW, Australia > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message