Not in mine line, sorry to say, but it is an Irish name, although there have been Geoghegans born in Scotland. According to LDS Family Search: - there is a Jane Geoghegan b. 2 May 1874 in Govan, Lanark, Scotland, to John G. and Elizabeth Ballantyne. - and there are several Jane G's born in Ireland around the time period in Westmeath, Dublin, and likely other places. I suppose it is possible her line is not going to be found in Surrey. Michael C Canada

Thank you so much, Cliff. Your tiring work is admirable. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Webb, Cliff" <cwebb@rmluk.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] Errors in parish listings of Ancestry.com City of London > Though this does not concern Surrey as such, it is relevant as so many > family lines cross the Thames, especially to the City from Surrey. I > have finally managed to finish listing the major errors in parish > allocation in Ancestry.com's London 1538-1812 section for the City of > London section. They are as follows: >

Though this does not concern Surrey as such, it is relevant as so many family lines cross the Thames, especially to the City from Surrey. I have finally managed to finish listing the major errors in parish allocation in Ancestry.com's London 1538-1812 section for the City of London section. They are as follows: Christchurch Greyfriars 1639-40 is St Leonard Foster Lane CMB1639-40 Christchurch Greyfriars 1642-1710 is a typescript of All Hallows Staining C1642-1710 St Alphage London Wall 1615-80 is Greenwich C1616-80, M1616-74, B1615-80 St Alphage London Wall 1680-1721 is Greenwich C1680-1721 St Andrew Holborn 1538-1600 is St Andrew Hubbard C1538-1601, MB1538-99 St Bartholomew the Great 1723-1812 is St Bartholomew by Exchange CB1724-1812, M1724-54 St Benet Paul's Wharf 1730-1812 is St Benet Gracechurch CB1730-1812, M1730-54 St Botolph Aldersgate 1558-1625 is St Botolph Aldgate CM1558-1625 St Botolph Aldersgate 1588-92 is St Botolph Aldgate CMB1588-92 St Botolph Aldersgate 1590-91 is St Botolph Aldgate CMB1590-91 St Botolph Aldersgate 1730-67 is St Botolph Aldgate B1730-67 St Botolph Billingsgate 1653-1727 is St George Botolph Lane Births 1654-60, C1685-1726, Banns 1654-60, M1686-1720, B1685-1726 St Botolph Bishopsgate 1595-1653 is St Bride B1595-1653 St Dunstan in the East 1623-45 is St Dunstan in the West CB1623-45, M1625-45 St Katherine Creechurch 1618-53 is St Katharine by the Tower CM1618-53, B1640-53 St Leonard Foster Lane 1810 includes Christchurch Greyfriars I hope to do some work on the post 1754 marriages and post 1812 baptisms and burials of a similar nature in due course. Regards Cliff Webb Cliff Webb Director Rattner Mackenzie Limited Mailto:cwebb@rmluk.com Tel: +44 20 7480 5511 Rattner McKenzie Limited was acquired by Guy Carpenter & Company, LLC on October 8, 2009 and currently operates as one of the companies within the group wholly owned by Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc. Disclaimer Rattner Mackenzie Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA). Registered in England & Wales No.: 02303498. Registered Office: 1 Tower Place West, Tower Place, London, EC3R 5BU, UK. This message and any attachments are confidential. If you have received this message in error please delete it from your system. If you require any assistance please notify the sender. Thank you. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Jane I am sending a copy of the 1861 census offlist Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia >I have the genesreunited gold membership, for searching the census, but > can't find the entry I want. On findmypast there is Luke Noble, born 1833, > age 28, Reg District St Saviour, Southwark. Is there a reference which I > could give to the genesreunited support team to find this page, please? > > > > thanks, Jane.

For anyone familiar with the London Metropolitan Archives "London Generations" black index binders, next to the microfilm cabinets at the microfilm reader end of the room, the contents of these binders form the basis of the Ancestry digitisation programme. School records, Land Tax Assessments, Electoral Rolls, CofE parish records, Board of Guardian and Poor Law records etc. This is the search page on LMA to those records: <http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/londonGenerations/> As far as I know anything which turns up in that dataset will (eventually) turn up on Ancestry. Provisos - condition of originals and permission by copyright holder/s, access limitations (eg 75/100-year closure rules). hth JK

thanks to Sue and Nivard. Jane. > From: phil.milbourne@ntlworld.com > To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:35:53 +0100 > Subject: [SRY] 1861 census NOBLE St Saviour Southwark > > I have the genesreunited gold membership, for searching the census, but > can't find the entry I want. On findmypast there is Luke Noble, born 1833, > age 28, Reg District St Saviour, Southwark. Is there a reference which I > could give to the genesreunited support team to find this page, please? > > > > thanks, Jane. >

Hi Jane >From Ancestry Name: Luke Noble Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Southwark, Surrey, England Civil parish: Southwark St Saviour County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: St Saviour ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 129 Household Members: Name Age Thos W Hampshire 30 Mary Ann Hampshire 26 John Hampshire 8 Sarah Hampshire 3 Susan Hampshire 1 Mo Luke Noble 28 RG9; Piece: 314; Folio: 18; Page: 31 They should understand the RG9 reference Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I have the genesreunited gold membership, for searching the census, but > can't find the entry I want. On findmypast there is Luke Noble, born 1833, > age 28, Reg District St Saviour, Southwark. Is there a reference which I > could give to the genesreunited support team to find this page, please? > > > > thanks, Jane.

I have the genesreunited gold membership, for searching the census, but can't find the entry I want. On findmypast there is Luke Noble, born 1833, age 28, Reg District St Saviour, Southwark. Is there a reference which I could give to the genesreunited support team to find this page, please? thanks, Jane.

Hi Jane, Image sent off list for you. Sue > From: phil.milbourne@ntlworld.com > To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:35:53 +0100 > Subject: [SRY] 1861 census NOBLE St Saviour Southwark > > I have the genesreunited gold membership, for searching the census, but > can't find the entry I want. On findmypast there is Luke Noble, born 1833, > age 28, Reg District St Saviour, Southwark. Is there a reference which I > could give to the genesreunited support team to find this page, please? > > > > thanks, Jane. > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Access your other email accounts and manage all your email from one place. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/

Thank you Michael, that is the only information that I have, most frustrating, but thanks again. Regards Maree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Clifton" <mclifton@cklegal.ca> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] STEVENS and BAMFORD family > According to LDS Family Search, > > Stephen Stevens and Martha Bamford were married at Spitalfields Christ > Church, Stepney, London, on 17 October 1771. > > No birth information, but perhaps this will help if it is not information > you already had. > > > Michael C. > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Patrick, I recently did my own book with the riviting title "The McBrides of Surrey". Four small bits of advice. First set a deadline, eg Christmas this year or next year. Secondly limit the scope of your book to a couple of generations if you have large families to write about. If you don't do this you will never finish your book as you will constantly be finding more relatives. My book featured my greatgrandfather, his wife and their 9 children all born in Surrey. There were 12 chapters, each chapter about each person as well as a potted history of the region. Each of the 9 children had a section about themselves, their spouses (if married) and their children. Thirdly at the end of each chapter leave a page or two with the heading "Notes' and leave them blank so that the recipients of the book can write in extra things they may find. Finally put a picture, photograph, photocopyy of letters postcards etc on every page. Nothing is as boring as to have to read pages of information without illustrations. Obviously other people will have other ideas but I found the above, through trial and error, worked for me. I also found that by telling the prospective recipients of the book of what I was doing, I received lots of old photos, postcards etc. Kindest regards Wayne McBride

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, March 11, 1820; Issue 3490. DIED In Lombard-street, aged 58, Charles BALL, Esq., formerly of Merroe, near Guildford, Surrey, eminent as the inventor and manufacturer of superior banker's note paper, and late of the firm of BALL and ASHBY, engravers, etc.

Patrick Try www.blurb.com it is a useful site for private publication particularly those with photos etc. Caribou

Thanks Caroline. I'll be looking forward to seeing more records soon. It really is amazing isn't it? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > The LMA's Digitisation page > (http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/LGNL_Services/Leisure_and_cultur > e/Records_and_archives/Ancestry+digitisation.htm) gives a list. They are > not doing badly so far - it would be nice if the school admission registers > were indeed online in 2009! The indexed versions of the earlier parish > registers are something to look forward to as well, but the huge variation > in style of these from parish to parish (not to mention the condition of > some of the registers themselves) must be giving them a bit of a headache. > > Best wishes > > Caroline > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Neil & Jan Hearn >> Sent: 12 October 2009 22:11 >> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers >> >> Hello, >> I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone >> know which ones they will be please? >> >> >> Jan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> >> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers >> >> >> > Hi Carole >> > >> > The clue is in the name - *parish* registers refer to the registers >> of the >> > Established Church (i.e. the Church of England) :-) >> > >> > You won't find any registers of Roman Catholic churches (which are >> > officially termed "missions" not "parishes") in the collection, and >> they are >> > very hard to research (try http://www.catholic- >> library.org.uk/index.html for >> > information), though between 1754 and 1837 your Catholic ancestors >> would >> > have had to marry in the Church of England. This applied to the >> protestant >> > non-conformists too (though not to Quakers or Jews who were allowed >> to >> > maintain their own records, on the basis that these were accepted to >> be very >> > well regulated). >> > >> > So every marriage, if it took place in London, should be there until >> 1837, >> > unless it took place within the many large churches in the City of >> > Westminster (which covers a large part of the central area). These >> > registers are held by the Westminster Archive Centre, not the LMA or >> the >> > Guildhall Library, so are not part of the project in question. >> > >> > After 1837, you will only find marriages which took place in C of E >> > churches. For the rest (Catholic, non-conformist, Jewish etc), and >> anything >> > in Westminster, you are best off relying on marriage certificates via >> the >> > civil registration system. >> > >> > As for baptisms, these were always optional, so your ancestors may >> just not >> > have been very godly! If they were non-conformists (including >> Quakers), try >> > the non-parochial registers available via subscription of pay-per- >> view at >> > www.thegenealogist.co.uk. >> > >> > Hope this helps >> > >> > Caroline >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London >> area >> >> Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other >> >> denominations? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been >> >> Catholic. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Carole Brett >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM >> AWAY** >> >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- >> >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> >> the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > *************************************** >> > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> > >> > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> *************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I am just about ready to put all my family tree data and photographs into a book format which future generations will be able to view and add to. Any advice from any of our members as to how to go about it would be most welcome. Thank you. Patrick Holland. Perth, Western Australia.

Hi Mike If you are talking about the ones being copied to ancestry from the LMA Mike, then the baptisms are only from 1813-1906 marriages and banns are from 1754 -1921 Burials 1813-1980 or am I "up a wattle" as we say here in Oz?? Cheers pam > Searching for baptisms/births for March 1787 on, The link given for the > LMA copies of the archive (1787--1808) leads to Burials for 1750 odd. > Has anyone else found this. any advice etc. > TiA. > Mick Turley

According to LDS Family Search, Stephen Stevens and Martha Bamford were married at Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London, on 17 October 1771. No birth information, but perhaps this will help if it is not information you already had. Michael C.

Hello, I've heard that more records are to be added soon. Does anyone know which ones they will be please? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Bradford" <caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] Ancestry's new London parish registers > Hi Carole > > The clue is in the name - *parish* registers refer to the registers of the > Established Church (i.e. the Church of England) :-) > > You won't find any registers of Roman Catholic churches (which are > officially termed "missions" not "parishes") in the collection, and they are > very hard to research (try http://www.catholic-library.org.uk/index.html for > information), though between 1754 and 1837 your Catholic ancestors would > have had to marry in the Church of England. This applied to the protestant > non-conformists too (though not to Quakers or Jews who were allowed to > maintain their own records, on the basis that these were accepted to be very > well regulated). > > So every marriage, if it took place in London, should be there until 1837, > unless it took place within the many large churches in the City of > Westminster (which covers a large part of the central area). These > registers are held by the Westminster Archive Centre, not the LMA or the > Guildhall Library, so are not part of the project in question. > > After 1837, you will only find marriages which took place in C of E > churches. For the rest (Catholic, non-conformist, Jewish etc), and anything > in Westminster, you are best off relying on marriage certificates via the > civil registration system. > > As for baptisms, these were always optional, so your ancestors may just not > have been very godly! If they were non-conformists (including Quakers), try > the non-parochial registers available via subscription of pay-per-view at > www.thegenealogist.co.uk. > > Hope this helps > > Caroline > > > >> >> Can anyone enlighten me on the new parish registers for the London area >> Ancestry has? Are these Anglican records only or include other >> denominations? >> >> >> >> I am beginning to think the ancestors I am looking for may have been >> Catholic. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Carole Brett >> >> *************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Patrick, This has been discussed before. My suggestion was to use your genealogy programme to produce suitable reports in rich text format. Then, switch to a desk top publishing (DTP) programme to add  in the bells and whistles.  DTP is far more stable and versatile than a word processor for producing books with illustrations. Modern versions of both DTP and genealogy programmes are capable of producing books with chapters and indexes with a few button clicks, or using wizards.  However, you are presented with a limited range of formats and appearances.  All depends on your confidence in working with software, and your vision for the finished article.  You can either choose a template on offer, or branch out and produce something to your own format.  If you want to use your own format, then use a DTP programme. I hope this makes some sense.  I can contact you off list with some samples of what I have done in DTP, if you wish. With best wishes  Richard  Brown Bromley Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: patrick holland <lambeth@tadaust.org.au> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 13 October, 2009 6:04:35 Subject: [SRY] Family History Book Hello, I am just about ready to put all my family tree data and photographs into a book format which future generations will be able to view and add to. Any advice from any of our  members as to how to go about it would be most welcome. Thank you. Patrick Holland. Perth, Western Australia. *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As Judy says, Gipsy Hill, south of Woodland Road, is entirely in Lambeth. This section includes No 62, which is just uphill from Cawnpore Street.  The remainder of Gipsy Hill, from Woodhill Road to Brockwell PArk, forms the boundary line of Lambeth (west side) and Southwark (East side) councils.  Richard Brown Bromley Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 12 October, 2009 14:02:02 Subject: Re: [SRY] Photographs - SE19 This is a difficult area. Gipsy Hill (the road, as opposed to the general area) runs through three London Boroughs -- Southwark, Lambeth and (just) Croydon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gipsy_Hill Versailles Road, on the other hand, is in the London Borough of Bromley. Good luck! Judy London, UK :=X (Snip..) David