Hi Listers, I am just throwing an idea into the pot. In general, all of us who subscribe to these lists are great at helping one another concerning various matters.  We have, in effect, developed a virtual community.  Personally, I value everyone's opinions greatly, and they are much appreciated Have any of the group members ever met in person at a gathering?  I am thinking, such as at Family History Fairs in a stand or a lounge set up by the Roots hosts Ancestry or others?  Certainly, I know some of the contributors through the Lincs FHS and E Surrey FHS, but not all of us are members of a Family History Society. It's just a thought.  I am one of those who likes to put a face to a name.  Also, gatherings, such as I suggest, are an excellent forum for exchanging ideas etc which we may not have necessarily been put forward , or put forward in the wrong way, on the forum.  Hopefully our list administrators will take note of any feedback, and take the idea forward to the Roots Lists hosts.  I think this could be a Win Win case with more interest being generated in FH Fairs (It is about 4 years since I last went to one) and FH Societies.  Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K.

Anne, Many thanks.  "Mr Whittington" was my doing - Just to record a father's name in my Genealogy Programme, for further research.  Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009 7:31:37 Subject: Re: [SRY] Whittington Family I think this might be her true baptism date REBECCA WHITINGTON      Pedigree       Female                       Event(s):     Birth:     Christening:      03 OCT 1823      Dorking, Surrey, England     Death:     Burial:             Parents:       Father:      GEORGE WHITINGTON     Family       Mother:      REBECCA         Messages:     Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.                 Source Information:     Batch No.:      Dates:      Source Call No.:      Type:      Printout Call No.:      Type:     C074071      1766 - 1817 The other, with "Father Mr Whittington" looks suspiciously like an LDS patron submission and therefore to be taken with a grain (or a pound!) of salt  ;) Anne South Australia Richard M Brown wrote: > The Whittington messages intrigue me.  I have an WHITTINGTON ancestor.  I wonder if there are any connections - just asking.<G> > > Her details follow. > > Name: Rebecca WHITTINGTON > Sex: Female > Father: Mr WHITTINGTON ( - ) > Mother: > Individual Facts > Birth 1825 Dorking, Surrey > Occupation 1911 (age 86) Living by private means; Ruthoen, Reigate > Death 18 Oct 1911 (age 86) Ruthven, Doods Park Road, Reigate, Surrey > Probate 20 Feb 1912 London > Ref #  A1817 > Marriages/Children > 1. William Joliffe COOKE >          Marriage 1847 (age 22) St Lukes, Middlesex >              Children Rebecca COOKE (1849 - 9 May 1938) >                          William J COOKE (1850 - ) > 2. Daniel GEALE >          Marriage 1884 (age 59) St Olave, Southwark > Notes (Individual) > 1911 Census: The head of household is my great aunt, Rebecca Brown, widow, aged 62.  Rebecca Whitttington was listed as born in Croydon.  This does not fully accord with data collected for Rebecca, nee Whittington.  However, the problem may have been caused by a poor memory diguised by pride! > >  Richard Brown > Bromley, Kent > U.K. > *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Or how about the Poast Office?  Richard Brown Bromley Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: J K gen <gen2mail@googlemail.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009 21:48:56 Subject: Re: [SRY] UK Postmarks Have you tried contacting the Philatelist Society? or looking at a Stanley Gibbons book? Perhaps there's a website? JK On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Bob Brock <bob@badger1.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks to all who responded. > I've now found a JA as well (Kentish Town 1908) but guess this must be an exception! > > Bob *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried contacting the Philatelist Society? or looking at a Stanley Gibbons book? Perhaps there's a website? JK On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Bob Brock <bob@badger1.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks to all who responded. > I've now found a JA as well (Kentish Town 1908) but guess this must be an exception! > > Bob

I think this might be her true baptism date REBECCA WHITINGTON Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 03 OCT 1823 Dorking, Surrey, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE WHITINGTON Family Mother: REBECCA Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C074071 1766 - 1817 The other, with "Father Mr Whittington" looks suspiciously like an LDS patron submission and therefore to be taken with a grain (or a pound!) of salt ;) Anne South Australia Richard M Brown wrote: > The Whittington messages intrigue me. I have an WHITTINGTON ancestor. I wonder if there are any connections - just asking.<G> > > Her details follow. > > Name: Rebecca WHITTINGTON > Sex: Female > Father: Mr WHITTINGTON ( - ) > Mother: > Individual Facts > Birth 1825 Dorking, Surrey > Occupation 1911 (age 86) Living by private means; Ruthoen, Reigate > Death 18 Oct 1911 (age 86) Ruthven, Doods Park Road, Reigate, Surrey > Probate 20 Feb 1912 London > Ref # A1817 > Marriages/Children > 1. William Joliffe COOKE > Marriage 1847 (age 22) St Lukes, Middlesex > Children Rebecca COOKE (1849 - 9 May 1938) > William J COOKE (1850 - ) > 2. Daniel GEALE > Marriage 1884 (age 59) St Olave, Southwark > Notes (Individual) > 1911 Census: The head of household is my great aunt, Rebecca Brown, widow, aged 62. Rebecca Whitttington was listed as born in Croydon. This does not fully accord with data collected for Rebecca, nee Whittington. However, the problem may have been caused by a poor memory diguised by pride! > > Richard Brown > Bromley, Kent > U.K. >

I have a photograph of a young man whom I believe lived between about 1850 and 1869. His parents were married in Lambeth in 1845 (William LAWRENCE and Eleanor HASKEW). Young William died in Valparaiso Chile but is said to have attended school in England for six years. In the photo William is wearing what could be a college blazer and it was taken by E BIEBER. Can anyone provide information about this photographer please? Jan

Hello Nivard, The postcard I have is handwritten and addressed to Fan, 42 Hill Rise Richmond Surrey, (Fan being Frances Bates) It is very clearly marked Richard Victor Whittington 5 Months 19lbs 28 1/2 inches, and still has the original green halfpenny stamp attached.I would think it was sent by one of the child's parents, possibly the mother. Frances to whom the photo was sent was one of twelve children of George and Caroline Whittington, she had five brothers who could have had sons to carry on this line of Whittingtons, but to the best of my knowledge only two of them had sons ,Cecil who had one son but he died on his twenties , and George (my grandfather)so it would appear that the name only carries on here in Australia. The other possibilities are that one of her other brothers is the father of Richard Victor, and I have not yet found which, or that Richard Victor is the son of a cousin, which would mean that George the Hatter (my great grandfather)also had cousins. I have done a bit of digging in this area and there was a Henry Whittington born Somerset 1838 (where my great grandfather indicates he was born)this Henry appears in the 1891 census with a son also named Henry at Petworth Sussex, and a Henry Victor Whittington married Rose Ann Harwood (sounds like Howard) also at Petworth in 1895.This is all speculation but I cannot rule out any possibility. I hope I am not boring you with all this and am grateful of any assistance I am given. Respectfully Peter Whittington -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:16 AM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Whittington Family Hi Peter Well that certainly lends weight to the argument he is connected A question might be how is the name marked on the post card photo? Is it printed or written by hand, if by hand is it possible the sender or receiver had their facts wrong? Just a thought to muddy the waters <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello Nivard, > The photograph I have was given to me by a cousin I found > living at Kingston upon Thames, it was amongst a number of others in a > folder her mother had received from another cousin ( Claudian Nicholl) to > whom it was sent upon the death of Frances Bates whom I mentioned in my > query, so I feel that this child is one of us. All of these people > including > myself are descendants of George Whittington (Hatter) and Caroline > Whittington (nee King). > I have just ordered a film covering Baptisms at St John's Walworth 1904 > 1941, but you have just answered that query, so I will order another on > Marriages to check on Henry and Edith, as I mentioned I have not been able > to find them on St. Catherines Index or Free BMD. > My reason for chasing living relatives in U.K.is to see if they can help > me > find any information on the birth or baptism of George Whittington > (Hatter) > as ten years of searching by myself has so far been fruitless. > Thank you for your interest. > > Respectfully > Peter Whittington *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2459 - Release Date: 10/25/09 19:57:00

Hi Jan If you google "e bieber" there are quite a few hits but you can reduce that by googling "e bieber" +photography and then also photographer. Then google "german photographers" - which I haven't yet done. Sometimes you need to take a step back and look at things more generally. You can find most things when googling. Firstly type in what you know, and then tweak your search terms. This is a good link to how to make the most of googling; http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=134479 HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:46 AM Subject: [SRY] E BIEBER, Photographer >I have a photograph of a young man whom I believe lived between about 1850 >and 1869. His parents were married in Lambeth in 1845 (William LAWRENCE and >Eleanor HASKEW). Young William died in Valparaiso Chile but is said to have >attended school in England for six years. In the photo William is wearing >what could be a college blazer and it was taken by E BIEBER. > Can anyone provide information about this photographer please? > > Jan > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks to all who responded. I've now found a JA as well (Kentish Town 1908) but guess this must be an exception! Bob

Hello everyone I have noticed some LOVEJOY names mention on the list and until recently this did not resonate with me. Going through the ancestry databases for London that are now constantly made available.......I found one of my SEAGRAVES marrying a LOVEJOY. Therefore if any one has a Harriett LOVEJOY marrying James Seagrave in 1916.....in Battersea. I have started tracing the Lovejoys. Harriett appears to be the daughter of Charles Tench? and Harriett Ellen LOVEJOY. Born circa 1875 (not found her baptism yet) Sibling charles 1866 Eliza 1868 George 1875 Helen? 1877 Frederick, 1880 Emily 1886 William 1888 All born Battersea except Harriett the wife. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind. The ones that mind don't matter.

The Whittington messages intrigue me.  I have an WHITTINGTON ancestor.  I wonder if there are any connections - just asking.  <G> Her details follow. Name: Rebecca WHITTINGTON Sex: Female Father: Mr WHITTINGTON ( - ) Mother:  Individual Facts Birth 1825 Dorking, Surrey Occupation 1911 (age 86) Living by private means; Ruthoen, Reigate Death 18 Oct 1911 (age 86) Ruthven, Doods Park Road, Reigate, Surrey Probate 20 Feb 1912 London Ref #  A1817 Marriages/Children 1. William Joliffe COOKE         Marriage 1847 (age 22) St Lukes, Middlesex             Children Rebecca COOKE (1849 - 9 May 1938)                          William J COOKE (1850 - ) 2. Daniel GEALE         Marriage 1884 (age 59) St Olave, Southwark Notes (Individual) 1911 Census: The head of household is my great aunt, Rebecca Brown, widow, aged 62.  Rebecca Whitttington was listed as born in Croydon.  This does not fully accord with data collected for Rebecca, nee Whittington.  However, the problem may have been caused by a poor memory diguised by pride!  Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: Peter <dance_123@bigpond.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 26 October, 2009 7:52:24 Subject: Re: [SRY] Whittington Family My reason for chasing living relatives in U.K.is to see if they can help me find any information on the birth or baptism of George Whittington (Hatter) as ten years of searching by myself has so far been fruitless. Thank you for your interest.                                           Respectfully                                                 Peter Whittington Hi Peter The Richard you mention the certs for was baptised 7th Sept 1906 at St John the Evangelist Walworth Born Nov 23rd 1906 the son of Henry and Edith WHITTINGTON of 35 Morcombe Street , Henry a fishmonger That is the only child I can find baptised for this couple It does sound as if the Richard Victor you seek is a different child to the one you have the certs and now baptism for, why would they Baptise, Register the birth & death as just Richard then send a post card as Richard Victor? ... :=X snip   ............... Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello to All, > >                    I have a postcard photograph of a child marked RICHARD VICTOR WHITTINGTON 5 months old, the postmark date is 22 may 1907, and is addressed to 42 Hill Rise Richmond. ...:=X snip ... -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:06 PM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Whittington Family Hello Nivard,               .... :=X  snip ....

Hi Peter Well that certainly lends weight to the argument he is connected A question might be how is the name marked on the post card photo? Is it printed or written by hand, if by hand is it possible the sender or receiver had their facts wrong? Just a thought to muddy the waters <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello Nivard, > The photograph I have was given to me by a cousin I found > living at Kingston upon Thames, it was amongst a number of others in a > folder her mother had received from another cousin ( Claudian Nicholl) to > whom it was sent upon the death of Frances Bates whom I mentioned in my > query, so I feel that this child is one of us. All of these people > including > myself are descendants of George Whittington (Hatter) and Caroline > Whittington (nee King). > I have just ordered a film covering Baptisms at St John's Walworth 1904 > 1941, but you have just answered that query, so I will order another on > Marriages to check on Henry and Edith, as I mentioned I have not been able > to find them on St. Catherines Index or Free BMD. > My reason for chasing living relatives in U.K.is to see if they can help > me > find any information on the birth or baptism of George Whittington > (Hatter) > as ten years of searching by myself has so far been fruitless. > Thank you for your interest. > > Respectfully > Peter Whittington

Hello Diane, Thank you for your interest and information. Respectfully Peter Whittington -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Wynne Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:09 PM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Whittington Family The following taken from Parish Record: Richard Whittington born 7th Dec 1906 baptised 23rd November 1906 St John´s Church Walworth Parents Henry (fishmonger) and Edith Whittington Address 35 Morcambe Street Albert Edward Whittington born 24 June 1905 baptised 7 July 1905 St John´s Church Walworth Parents Henry (fish curer) and Edith Whittington Address 35 Morecambe Street James Whittington baptised 25 August 1878 St John´s Church Walworth Parents Henry (fish dealer) and Elizabeth Whittington Address 5 Orchard Place Marriage at St John´s Church in the Parish of St John Walworth in the County of Surrey Febry 2 1883 Henry Whittington age 20 Bachelor, Haddock Drier of 35 Can??? Street, father Henry Whittington, Haddock Drier Eliza Lydia Marshall 20 Spinster of 26 Henchar?? Street, father Luther Emanuel Marshall deceased Witnesses Thomas Pickett, Mary Ann Flinders Diane *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2459 - Release Date: 10/25/09 19:57:00

-----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:06 PM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Whittington Family Hello Nivard, The photograph I have was given to me by a cousin I found living at Kingston upon Thames, it was amongst a number of others in a folder her mother had received from another cousin ( Claudian Nicholl) to whom it was sent upon the death of Frances Bates whom I mentioned in my query, so I feel that this child is one of us. All of these people including myself are descendants of George Whittington (Hatter) and Caroline Whittington (nee King). I have just ordered a film covering Baptisms at St John's Walworth 1904 1941, but you have just answered that query, so I will order another on Marriages to check on Henry and Edith, as I mentioned I have not been able to find them on St. Catherines Index or Free BMD. My reason for chasing living relatives in U.K.is to see if they can help me find any information on the birth or baptism of George Whittington (Hatter) as ten years of searching by myself has so far been fruitless. Thank you for your interest. Respectfully Peter Whittington Hi Peter The Richard you mention the certs for was baptised 7th Sept 1906 at St John the Evangelist Walworth Born Nov 23rd 1906 the son of Henry and Edith WHITTINGTON of 35 Morcombe Street , Henry a fishmonger That is the only child I can find baptised for this couple It does sound as if the Richard Victor you seek is a different child to the one you have the certs and now baptism for, why would they Baptise, Register the birth & death as just Richard then send a post card as Richard Victor? Was there a male WHITTINGTON registered in the period? Or could he have been born abroad perhaps? Is it not possible the child marked as 5 months was born at another time? I have sent photos similarly marked XXX at 5 months but years different to when the photo was taken Mind you I don't find a Richard Victor WHITTINGTON born at any time in Eng/Wales Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello to All, > > I have a postcard photograph of a child marked RICHARD > VICTOR WHITTINGTON 5 months old, the postmark date is 22 may 1907, and is > addressed to 42 Hill Rise Richmond. The local studies librarian of > Richmond > tells me that the occupants of this address in 1908 were George and > Frances > Bates, Frances being my grandfather's sister (Frances Mary Whittington). > > The only birth record I can find is for RICHARD WHITTINGTON born 23rd Nov. > 1906 and registered 4 Jan 1907, this birth date would > *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2459 - Release Date: 10/25/09 19:57:00

Hello Anne, The postmark on the photograph is Kingston upon Thames, but no photographer's name.I know there were some 66 Whittingtons in the area at 1911, so am endeavouring to find Postal Directories for that time at the Battye Library in Perth. Respectfully Peter Whittington -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Chambers Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:26 PM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Whittington Family Is there any clue as to where it was posted from the postmark or is the photographer named ? Anne South Australia Peter wrote: > Hello to All, > > I have a postcard photograph of a child marked RICHARD > VICTOR WHITTINGTON 5 months old, the postmark date is 22 may 1907, and is > addressed to 42 Hill Rise Richmond. The local studies librarian of Richmond > tells me that the occupants of this address in 1908 were George and Frances > Bates, Frances being my grandfather's sister (Frances Mary Whittington). > > The only birth record I can find is for RICHARD WHITTINGTON born 23rd Nov. > 1906 and registered 4 Jan 1907, this birth date would > *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2459 - Release Date: 10/25/09 19:57:00

Yes there was a standard in Britain January JN June JU, and July JY Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Brock Sent: 26 October 2009 11:44 To: Rootsweb Surrey list Subject: [SRY] UK Postmarks I'm trying to scan and index a set of Edwardian postcards and am having trouble deciphering the dates on the postmarks. Can anyone tell me whether there was a standard for which of JU, JY and JN stood for January, June and July? Bob

As far as I know JN = January JU = June JY = July JKN ! On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Bob Brock <bob@badger1.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I'm trying to scan and index a set of Edwardian postcards and am having trouble deciphering the dates on the postmarks. > Can anyone tell me whether there was a standard for which of JU, JY and JN stood for January, June and July? > > Bob

I'm trying to scan and index a set of Edwardian postcards and am having trouble deciphering the dates on the postmarks. Can anyone tell me whether there was a standard for which of JU, JY and JN stood for January, June and July? Bob

Michael, You will find the marriage details on freebmd.org.uk: June quarter 1935, Camberwell, 1d, 1832. Below the entry you are asked to 'click here to learn what to do now' which will take you to details for the GRO where you can order the Certificate (7GBP). From this you will get details of parents, which should enable you to trace them back through the British Censuses. Happy hunting! Rod. In sunny and cool Notting Hill, West London, UK. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Clifton <mclifton@cklegal.ca> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:00 Subject: [SRY] Clifton Brown Good morning, Would anyone by chance have ready access to a copy of the marriage record, license or certificate for the marriage of: Alfred J. Brown and Lily Caroline E. Clifton? Any other details on their birth, etc., would be good too. I know Lily was born in Spring or early Summer, 1910, registered at Camberwell. I have no birth or family details for Alfred. They were married in 1935, also registered at Camberwell. If anything, thanks. If not, thanks for checking anyway. Michael C. Canada *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning, Would anyone by chance have ready access to a copy of the marriage record, license or certificate for the marriage of: Alfred J. Brown and Lily Caroline E. Clifton? Any other details on their birth, etc., would be good too. I know Lily was born in Spring or early Summer, 1910, registered at Camberwell. I have no birth or family details for Alfred. They were married in 1935, also registered at Camberwell. If anything, thanks. If not, thanks for checking anyway. Michael C. Canada