You can search for her free of charge on  the 1911.co.uk site.  Try looking for her husband first to see where he is living, then use his residence on the advanced search to look for her.   To look for her death I used http://www.freebmd.org.uk   and put in a death between 1901 and 1911.  A number of hits came up, mostly with age at time of death so you should be able to identify her, assuming she had died before 1911. Hilary Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:05:05 +1000 From: "Desley Revell" <desley@mycelebrant.com> Subject: [SRY] Louisa THORPE (nee CAREY) - Death Date/Registration To: "Surrey Digest" <Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <96CEE97C352940B5ACD1FE1009086DBC@DesleyCMC> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Can some kind person assist me with locating a death date or death registration for Louisa THORPE (nee CAREY) born 1858 in Horne, Surrey. In the 1901 census, she was living at Laurel Cottage, Coulsdon, Surrey.  I do not know if Louisa predeceased her husband or not. Louisa was married to James William THORPE (aka as William James) b. 1850 in Fletching, Sussex and d. 1916 at Burnham Villas, 6 Victoria Street, Coulsdon, Surrey Unfortunately I do not have access to the 1911 census to check to see if she is still living - her husband was. Any assistance would be really appreciated.   Louisa Thorpe was my great grandmother. Desley Brisbane, Australia

Marriages Sep 1837 (>99%) SMITH James Jackson Chelsea 3 165 S I searched for all James Jackson Mmith events before 1860 Births Dec 1840 (>99%) Smith James Jackson Stoke on Trent 17 144 Deaths Mar 1841 (>99%) SMITH James Jackson Stoke upon Trent 17 97 Births Sep 1841 (>99%) Smith James Jackson Royston &c 6 523 The Royston chappie looks promising Hilary       Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:41:53 +1300 From: "Mike and Glen" <mikeandglen@xtra.co.nz> Subject: Re: [SRY] Passenger Lists To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004b01ca5ad7$8bcdf6c0$a369e440$@co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="US-ASCII" Good evening, Looking for James Jackson Smith leaving Liverpool bound for Australia in either 1857 or 1858.  JJ was my great grandfather and i have had difficulty finding his Birth certificate because I don't know his parentage - Smith is very very common .  I suspect he was 18. Glenys Kempshall New Zealand

Hello All, Ancestry have the London Parish Records some extend into Surrey Baptisms 1813-1906 just enter the surname this will bring up all of the Baptisms under that name, double pages. Marriage & Banns 1754 - 1921 there are 4 marriages on a page and you can print of the Marriage Certificates Death & Burials 1813-1980 copies of the original burials double pages. Browsable are BMD you have to select the name of the place where you want to research, outside of London Happy Hunting Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

You are probably aware but Norwood near Southall in west London (in LB Ealing) is not the same Norwood as those in south London (which are West Norwood, Upper Norwood and South Norwood in LB Lambeth, Croydon and Croydon respectively). Regards, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Hillier To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] CEMETERY HELP NORWOOD......please - William James Hillier(1871) Hi Anne yes I have had ancestry access for a number of years now and have been looking for his death for about 10 years or more..... from all the online sites.... 1955........and after. Therein lies the problem. That and the amount of deriviatives of the surname.....Being in Oz like you......we rely on being able to order the certs from online access.....and no joy. So I was hoping to find the most likely Cemetery to where they lived and email them directly. I'ts just another small brickwall, using a toothbrush and a prayer. Grin !!! With all the chitchat about cemeteries, I was hoping someone local would know where he would have been buried around 1955 onwards. Thanks anyway hon Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi Pam, > Do you have access to the GRO indexes on Ancestry ? If you can find his > death registration (Norwood seems to > have been in Ealing Registration District from 1947), that will give you a > year to work on. If you then get > the certificate, that will give the place of death. > > Anne > South Australia > > Pam Hillier wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> Thought I would post this again >> There's been some chatter about cemetery's of late and thought I would >> ask. >> My grandfather lived at 204 Selhurst Road,Norwood and my parents were >> married just >> down the road at the Holy Innocents Church in 1941. I imagine that the >> West >> Norwood Cemetery would be the likely place for his burial sometime >> after >> 1941 (family lore states after 1955) , but I have never >> been able to find his death in years of looking. The Hillier name being >> common and the deriviatives are mind boggling..... >> Can someone tell me whether or not West Norwood Cemetery is the likely >> last >> repose for my Grandad? Or is their another......I believe (if my >> brother is >> right) that he died when I was a toddler, so around 1956,7,8. >> It seems on google maps that it's only 3.2 miles away from their last >> know >> address so seems likely. >> many thanks in advance >> Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam Neither the West Surrey FHS index to the Godfrey Maps of London, nor Streets and Places within the Admin County of London refer to Selhurst Rd. Exploration in the additional index to the Surrey Godfrey Maps reveals both Selhurst Rd (sheets 1402 and 1406) and Holy Innocents(1402). This suggests Croydon rather than Lambeth. This is confirmed by a street map of Croydon which shows Selhurst Rd, well within the Croydon boundary. I didn't discover a date on the street map, but it is pre decimalisation (3 shillings). Chris Willis in Yateley, Hants. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Cheesman <paulc@truemail.co.th> Date: 01 November 2009 07:40 Subject: Re: [SRY] CEMETERY HELP NORWOOD......please - William JamesHillier(1871) >You are probably aware but Norwood near Southall in west London (in LB Ealing) is not the same Norwood as those in south London (which are West Norwood, Upper Norwood and South Norwood in LB Lambeth, Croydon and Croydon respectively). > >Regards, > >Paul > <snip> > > > > Pam Hillier wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> Thought I would post this again > >> There's been some chatter about cemetery's of late and thought I would > >> ask. > >> My grandfather lived at 204 Selhurst Road,Norwood and my parents were > >> married just > >> down the road at the Holy Innocents Church in 1941. I imagine that the > >> West > >> Norwood Cemetery would be the likely place for his burial sometime > >> after > >> 1941 (family lore states after 1955) , but I have never > >> been able to find his death in years of looking. The Hillier name being > >> common and the deriviatives are mind boggling..... > >> Can someone tell me whether or not West Norwood Cemetery is the likely > >> last > >> repose for my Grandad? Or is their another......I believe (if my > >> brother is > >> right) that he died when I was a toddler, so around 1956,7,8. > >> It seems on google maps that it's only 3.2 miles away from their last > >> know > >> address so seems likely. > >> many thanks in advance > >> Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > >

As already mentioned by others, Norwood Surrey is a different place not to be confused with Norwood Middlesex. Norwood Middlesex is near Southall and is in fact one of the ancient parishes of Middlesex but these days tends to be less well known. (Norwood Middx was originally part of Uxbridge RD but more recently Ealing RD.) The irony is that whilst the Surrey one is more well known nowadays, it is in fact comparatively modern as a populous area - taking its name from "north wood" which was the forested area north of Croydon. For greater London cemeteries this site remains a good guide: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/cem.html Ann Surrey Admin

Cynthia Have you looked at this website? It has links to the Wandsworth cemeteries. Visitors may search the registers free of charge, but they also offer a fee-based search. http://www.randomwalk.me.uk/Battersea/ Hilary > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:24:32 +1000 > From: "cynthia daniels" <dalcyn@westnet.com.au> > Subject: [SRY] Houldsworth > To: <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <87FF283D0EC84A589655BE545B2D9EE8@DanielsPC> > Content-Type: text/plain;    > charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am trying to find a burial place for Rebecca Dorothy > Houldsworth who died at St. John's Hospital South Battersea > on 1st August 1951.  Where would I start to look. > > Cynthia > Australia

Norwood is in the London Borough of Lambeth, which is in south London. Ealing is on the west side of London - not to be confused with the early registration district in the City of London. I believe the West Norwood cemetery records may be consulted at the Lambeth Record Office in Minet Road - free to personal callers. They offer a paid search facility which will obviously be much cheaper if you can identify his exact date of death. See http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/cemetery/ Hilary Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:05:23 +1030 From: Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [SRY] CEMETERY HELP NORWOOD......please - William James Hillier (1871) To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4AED3A3B.4080008@bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Pam, Do you have access to the GRO indexes on Ancestry ? If you can find his death registration (Norwood seems to have been in Ealing Registration District from 1947), that will give you a year to work on. If you then get the certificate, that will give the place of death. SNIP Pam Hillier wrote: > > > Hi all, > Thought I would post this again > There's been some chatter about cemetery's of late and thought I would ask. > My grandfather lived at 204 Selhurst Road,Norwood and my parents were > married just > down the road at the Holy Innocents Church in 1941. I imagine that the West > Norwood Cemetery would be the likely place for his burial sometime after > 1941 (family lore states after 1955) , but I have never > been able to find his death in years of looking. The Hillier name being > common and the deriviatives are mind boggling..... > Can someone tell me whether or not West Norwood Cemetery is the likely last > repose for my Grandad? Or is their another......I believe (if my brother is > right) that he died when I was a toddler, so around 1956,7,8. > It seems on google maps that it's only 3.2 miles away from their last know > address so seems likely. > many thanks in advance > Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia

I am trying to find a burial place for Rebecca Dorothy Houldsworth who died at St. John's Hospital South Battersea on 1st August 1951. Where would I start to look. Cynthia Australia

I would appreciate some help in finding the Death Record for my maternal gr.gr.grandfather, Joseph Richard Holland. Joseph was born in Dec 1808 in Lambeth, Surrey and he was the widower of Sarah Prudence Twopenny (sp). The last record of him I have found is the 1891 Census of Camberwell, Surrey, when he is living with his married granddaughter Kate Greenfield and family. Kate's husband is William Greenfield. There are several Joseph Holland in the death index and a few Joseph Richard Holland. I've ordered several of the most likely and none reference his deceased spouse or a known relative. It has become to expensive to keep making guesses! Does anyone have easy access to the death registrations that they might be able to do a lookup for me. I would have to guess that he died in Surrey as his granddaughter stayed in Camberwell until at least 1911. Joseph was a retired carriage decorator and saddler. His father was John and mother probably Ann Harris, but this is not proven conclusively. Thank you Tim

Hi Listers If anyone has any information, or can connect with my family, I would be very pleased to hear from you. AYRES -1840+ Brighton, Sussex, England BAKER 1846 Heene, Sussex>1871-1895 Worthing, Sussex BARTLETT 1797 Sussex>1826 Westminster, London>1827 Brighton, Sussex BAYLES abt 1803 Barton, Yorkshire, England BEARD 1816 Petworth, Sussex>1840-1871 Marchwood, Hampshire>1852-1864 Southampton BELLRINGER 1820+ Tauton, Somersett>1845 Brighton BERRY 1821 Cranworth, Norfolk>1851 Narborough, Norfolk> 1861-1877 Great Massingham, Norfolk> 1881 Kings Lynn, Norfolk>1889-1919 Christchurch, Dorset BLACKMORE/BLACKMER/BLACKMAN 1811 Broadwater, Sussex>1841 East Maidstone, Kent> 1851-1881 Brighton BODEN 1801 Lipton, Staffordshire> 1824-1916 Southampton, England>2003 Landford, Wiltshire BONFIELD 1857 Yarcombe, Devon>1880 Tadworth Chard, Somerset> 1882 Broad Windsor, Dorset> 1886-1891 Winton, Hampshire> 1918 Christchurch, Dorset 1878 Exmouth, Devon> 1901 Portswood, Southampton BOTTING 1801-1820 West Grinstead, Sussex BROMFIELD 1811-1881 Burley, Hampshire>1891-1907 Ringwood, Hampshire >1929 Bournemouth, Dorset CAMP 1801 Sussex 1824 Brighton>1826-1851 Newhaven, Sussex> 1862-1901 Brighton 1896 Hastings, Sussex 1891 Camberwell, London COE 1781 Newark, Nottinghamshire>1816-1880 Brighton> Horsham, Sussex 1861-1901 1881 Paddington, London COLBOURNE 1923 Ringwood, Hampshire COLMAN 1832 Boxmoor, Hertfordshire>1861-1869 Cosgrove, Northamptonshire> 1871-1891 Coppenhall Monks, Cheshire 1884 Brighton COOK 1803 Lanesbry, Durham>1838-1849 Whitwell, Durham>1861 Whitworth, Durham COOK 1813 Fletching>1851-1861 Hove>1871-1974 Portslade by Sea, Sussex 1847 Brighton COPPOCK 1876-1911 St Pancras, London COX 1844 Brighton DEACON 1850-1877 Brighton DINNING 1830 Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland>1849 Kirkoswald, Ayr, Scotland DOLLEY 1903 Kingston >1928 Surbiton, Surrey DUDMAN 1818-1930 Brighton> 1865-1877 Eastbourne, Sussex FORD 1850-1869 Brighton FOSTER 1949 Bournemouth GOSLING 1838 Boston, Lincoln, England> 1859 Winchester, Hampshire, England> Brighton HARRY 1840 Truro, Cornwall>1865-1868 St. Agnes, Cornwall>1870-1872 Truro, Cornwall> 1881-1901 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales> 1916-1919 Ringwood, Hampshire HATCH 1650-Present Hampshire & 1894 Eastbourne >1901 Brighton HOOD 1788-1840 Leamington, Warwickshire HOUSTON 1904 Guildford, Surrey> 1928 Surbiton, Surrey> 1933 Croyden IDESON 1824 Skipton Yorkshire>1864 Halton, Yorkshire>1889-1901 Ilkley, Yorkshire> 1914 Australia INMAN 1796 Romsey, Hampshire>1799 Dorking, Sussex>1824-1861 Brighton IRWIN 1816 Dublin, Ireland>1842-1854 Leamington, Warwick> 1880 Brighton JORDEN 1876-1901 Southampton LISTER 1859-1881 Ilkley, Yorkshire> 1889 Wharfedale, Yorkshire LOCKHART 1827 Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland>1881 Barr by Girvan, Ayr, Scotland> 1894-1921 Portslade by Sea, Sussex 1918 Surbiton, Surrey MacLEOD 1882 Gedintaller, Portree, Isle of Skye, Scotland McCLUMPHA 1813-1856 Whithorn, Wigtownshire, Scotland 1879-1886 Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 1924 Pool, Dorset MADGWICK 1829 Withdean, Sussex>1849-1881 Brighton MELBOURNE 1815 Fordingbridge>1845-1924 Ringwood, Hampshire MUSTCHIN 1865 Shoreham, Sussex> 1868 Washington, Sussex> 1901 Portslade, Sussex NASH 1816 Whitechapel, London>1850 St Judes, Middlesex>1879-1891 Whitechaple, London> 1900-1901 Limehouse, London> 1922-1945 Poole, Dorset ODDY 1753-1800 Standwick & Aldborough, Yorkshire, England>1833 Barton, Yorkshire> 1838 Middleham, Yorkshire>1839 Durham>1826 Westminster, Middlesex > 1827-1895 Brighton>1866-1901 London 1896 Battle near Hastings, Sussex> 1900 Southampton, Hampshire> 1910 present>Canada, 1921 present>USA and 1909 present>Western Australia And 1896-present Surbiton, Surrey 1881-1901Southwark St George Martyr, Surrey 1860 Winchester, Hampshire>1862-1901 London, Middlesex> 1864 Islington, Midddlesex 1885-1926 Ringwood, Hampshire 1917-1922 Christchurch 1940-1960 Bournemouth 1958 Dorset 1960 Southampton OSBORN 1787+ Northamptonshire> 1816 Brighton PATCHIM 1825+ Brighton PIERCE 1785-1891 Cowfold, Sussex>1879 Cuckfield PITT 1807-1901 Ringwood, Hampshire RATHBONE 1869-1901 London SHERWOOD 1810 Rochester, Kent>1841-1863 London> 1863 Brighton, Sussex>1866-1870 Middlesex> 1881 Bramshott, Hampshire 1891-1901 London>1905-1912 St Pancras, London SPINK 1929-1930 West Hampshire STEVENS/STEPHENS 1799 Damerham, Wiltshire> 1826-1898 Ringwood, Hampshire STEVENSON 1843+ Field Hall/Leigh, Staffordshire> 1863 Bletchley, Buckinghamshire> 1865 Kentish Town, Middlesex > 1867-1869 New Cross, Kent> 1872-1873 Henfield, Sussex > 1877 Peckham, Surrey> 1887 Brighton> 1901 Boxhill, East Sussex SQUIRE 1818 Hepburn, Durham> 1847 Hartlepool, Durham> 1853 Swindon, Wiltshire > 1880 Preston, Sussex > 1906-1912 Brighton, Sussex TOMPSON 1816 Depford, Kent>1841 East Maidstone, Kent 1820 Sussex WALTER 1792-1871 Brighton> 1881 Camberwell, Surrey WELLS 1840-1884 Brighton I am looking forward to an exchange of information Stephen Victor Oddy Hillarys Western Australia I use Skype

Hi, I know of  the following passenger lists sites.  Ancestorsonboard - with scans and transcriptions of passenger lists held by the UK's National Archives The Ships list - With links to passenger lists, fleet and ship details with flags, photos, etc of vessels Pilgrim Ships Lists - http://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/shiplist.htm Castle Garden - http://www.castlegarden.org/ OK - what each site contains is for me to know, and for you to find out   <<G>> I was made aware of the last 2 sites via the Roots lists. Very happy hunting.  Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: Carole Beth Arnette <kyunes@gmail.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 1 November, 2009 2:08:01 Subject: Re: [SRY] Passenger Lists I would love it, also.  Have maternal families members who came to the USA locating in Texas, probably Karnes County, and then went back home. Carole Beth Arnette kyunes@gmail.com On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Patricia L <polly2@shaw.ca> wrote: > Good Evening, > I am trying to recall the site that has passengers returning to England > Can you Help? > Pat >  *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That sounds like the big A, Ancestry.co.uk they have incoming UK 1878-1960. However, i'm not sure which subscription it requires or if all subs can access it. You could also try the http://www.theshipslist.com/ They have a variety of transcribed lists though i'm not sure if it includes return journeys and you may be lucky le durachd Fionnghal Have > maternal families members who came to the USA > then went back home. > > > Good Evening, > > I am trying to recall the site that has passengers > returning to England Can you Help?

Hi Pam I was born in 1958 in Clifton Road, a road off of Selhurst Road, I am not an expert here, so just as background info, Clifton Road is South Norwood and I think came under Croydon, West Norwood came under Lambeth I think. >From where I lived everyone was taken to Mayday Hospital in Croydon and my family were all taken to Croydon crematorium which has a massive cemetery in Mitcham Road, Croydon. There was also an old cemetery in I think Queens road. Just for info. Regards Steve Burt Ferring, West Sussex

West Norwood Cemetery grave search:   http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/cemetery/GravesSearch.aspx Jan Ontario, Canada (I had it bookmarked) :) *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

Quit it,Jo. Just laughed so much that I nearly woke up Mike. So the G's were the D's on the 1911. It never ends....or begins... Maureen in NY -----Original Message----- >From: Josi Birkbeck <josibees@btinternet.com> >Sent: Oct 31, 2009 6:37 PM >To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SRY] a new start > > > >after embarrasing myself >Ill be good, >Richard has locked away the Baileys and found >the one in the * > >if you were Geoghegans you'd know the problems

Camberwell residents for some 66 years the Rickwoods were unremarkable George and Phoebe and some 9 children only two were sons and a long family line to Zephaniah 1790 in Norfolk. My favourite of the many links to me. With only one hiccup in the tree for 250 years. I would welcome contacts from the same namers Josi www.geoghegans-l@rootsweb.com

after embarrasing myself Ill be good, Richard has locked away the Baileys and found the one in the chandelier* if you were Geoghegans you'd know the problems later Josi in Norfolk * you saw that movie too??

I would love it, also. Have maternal families members who came to the USA locating in Texas, probably Karnes County, and then went back home. Carole Beth Arnette kyunes@gmail.com On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Patricia L <polly2@shaw.ca> wrote: > Good Evening, > I am trying to recall the site that has passengers returning to England > Can you Help? > Pat > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a list of Surrey WW1 and WW2 memorials which might interest some of our members. http://www.windowonwoking.org.uk/sites/goldsworthparkcommunityassociation/memorialsworldwar1andtwo/surreywarmemorialspagee Patrick Holland.