WWI Roll of Honour, Englefield Green, part 3 of 3 General heading: Egham Urban District Council, St Jude's Cemetery, Englefield Green Unveiling and Dedication on Sunday, 10th November, 1929 at 3 p.m. of the Cross of Sacrifice Erected by the Imperial War Graves Commission to the memory of 62 members of His Majesty's Forces who gave their lives for their King and Country in the Great War, 1914-18, and whose bodies are buried in this Cemetery. The Roll of Honour Number & Rank Initials & Name Regiment 568066 Private F.W. Randall Royal Engineers 18033 Private F. Read The Queen's 2497704 Private A. Roy Can. Forestry Corps 2356605 Private B.K. Saunders Can. Forestry Corps 2498678 Private W.J. Scandridge Can. Forestry Corps 268808 Private H. Schmidt Can, Forestry Corps 3212381 Private L.T. Schoepp Can. Forestry Corps 28657 Bty Srgt.-Mjr. N. Scott Royal Garrison Artillery G/7536 Private H.T. Searle The Queen's 2323457 Private E.F. Shaw Can, Forestry Corps 10767 Lance/Cpl. A.C. Simmons Essex Regiment 285067 L/Bombardier A.G.S.J. Smith Royal Garrison Artillery SS/755 Sergeant A.D. Sunderland Ryl. Army Service Corps 72892 Corporal R.M. Tilley Royal Field Artillery 2250483 Private Dell (J.) Tremblay [sic] Can. Forestry Corps 13906 Gunner J.W. Watts Royal Field Artillery 1867 Private J. Weir Cameronians (Scot. Rfls) 43508 Private W. Wicks Royal Fusiliers Major F.C. Wolfenden Can. Forestry Corps 2193032 Sergeant B.E. Wright Can. Forestry Corps --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: The programme for the dedication ceremony: a copy is DOC 1403 in the Oliver collection housed at Royal Holloway, University of London, Englefield Green. Geoff Chew g.chew@rhul.ac.uk

Hi Nigel this reply to an earler seeker may help: Subject: Re: [SRY] Thomas MAULL, Mount St. Guildford Hi Lynne looking at the LDS 1881 census, there was a Mount Street then. It contained, in addition to a house called the Mount, the Wheatsheaf, the Barley Mow and the cemetery lodge. I don't know if these pubs survive, but the cemetery wd fit the current Mount. Also one end of the listing abutts Park St which is next to the Mount on a recent(ish) map. As you have probably noticed the Mount is pretty much in line with the High Street, looking across the Wey. Chris Willlis in Yateley, Hants It may be that some of the other replies which can be seen on the archive may help. Chris Willlis in Yateley, Hants -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Callaghan <nigel.callaghan@ntlworld.com> Date: 06 November 2009 07:29 Subject: [SRY] BARNES Family >Might I ask if someone with access to the 1911 census would be kind enough >to look up the BARNES family of 14 The Mount, Guildford. Were any of the >Barnes family still living at that address then? > > > >Best regards from > > > >Nigel >

RG14PN1971 RG78PN69 RD25 SD1 ED29 SN61 24 Ethelred Street, Lambeth HOLLAND, George James Head Married M 40 1871 Motor Cab Washer (Gen Motor Cab Company) b London Newington HOLLAND, Melitia Wife Married 18 years 5 children 4 still living F 43 1868 b Hampshire Alresford HOLLAND, Louisa Daughter Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic b London Lambeth HOLLAND, George Son M 14 1897 Warehouse Boy b London Lambeth HOLLAND, William Son M 12 1899 School b London Lambeth HOLLAND, Edward Son M 9 1902 School b London Lambeth Anne South Australia patrick holland wrote: > Hi Anne, > > Thanks for looking. I wonder if George James Holland and his wife > Melita and their family were still living at 8 Tracey St, Kennington in > 1911, which is where they were living at the time of the 1901 census. > > Patrick. > Perth, Western Australia > >

WWI Roll of Honour, Englefield Green, part 2 of 3 General heading: Egham Urban District Council, St Jude's Cemetery, Englefield Green Unveiling and Dedication on Sunday, 10th November, 1929 at 3 p.m. of the Cross of Sacrifice Erected by the Imperial War Graves Commission to the memory of 62 members of His Majesty's Forces who gave their lives for their King and Country in the Great War, 1914-18, and whose bodies are buried in this Cemetery. The Roll of Honour Number & Rank Initials & Name Regiment 12970 Sergeant W.S. Fletcher Royal Fusiliers 12170 Private R.E. Giles Hampshire Regiment 14405 Guardsman J.T. Green Coldstream Guards 297745 Corporal J.N. Grieves Can. Forestry Corps 1465 Gunner G.W. Herd Royal Field Artillery 1013038 Private J. Hillyard Can. Forestry Corps 2208403 Sergeant P.D. Hope 14th Bn. Can. Infantry 121305 Private H. Houle Can. Forestry Corps 299212 Private S.A. Hunter Can. Forestry Corps 2nd Lieut. R. Hutchins Middlesex Regiment 2497978 Private J. Jakomolin Can. Forestry Corps 1122 Lance/Cpl. G.E. Johnstone 4th Bn. London Regiment Royal Fusiliers 67018 Private F. Jones Notts & Derby Regiment 118021 Lance/Cpl. W.A. Lang Can. Forestry Corps 225101 Private J.E. MacFarland Can, Forestry Corps 2183341 Private E.J. Malone Can. Forestry Corps 709571 Private C. McConaghy Can, Forestry Corps 222336 Private A.R. McDonald 85th Bn. Can. Infantry 766897 Private W. Murray Can. Forestry Corps 1037114 Private T. Peterson Can, Forestry Corps 1036956 Private R. Plews Can. Forestry Corps Geoff Chew g.chew@rhul.ac.uk

The topic has had a good airing and it is sad that there has been a misunderstanding of what was clearly intended as a humorous posting. In all respects to keep the List the happy place it has always been, it is best that we now, please, consider this topic closed on the Surrey List. Thank you. Ann List Admin

An address search for 'The Mount' or 'Mount' gets no results. There are 3 pages of BARNES in Guildford - what names are you looking for ? Anne South Australia Nigel Callaghan wrote: > Might I ask if someone with access to the 1911 census would be kind enough > to look up the BARNES family of 14 The Mount, Guildford. Were any of the > Barnes family still living at that address then? > > > > Best regards from > > > > Nigel > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

WWI Roll of Honour, Englefield Green, part 1 of 3 General heading: Egham Urban District Council, St Jude's Cemetery, Englefield Green Unveiling and Dedication on Sunday, 10th November, 1929 at 3 p.m. of the Cross of Sacrifice Erected by the Imperial War Graves Commission to the memory of 62 members of His Majesty's Forces who gave their lives for their King and Country in the Great War, 1914-18, and whose bodies are buried in this Cemetery. The Roll of Honour Number & Rank Initials & Name Regiment 2250542 Private A. Ballentine Can[adian] Forestry Corps 6439 Private Alfred J.T. Bell Royal Fusiliers 81073 Private J. Black Can. Forestry Corps 28801 Private W. Blezard East Surrey Regiment 1013711 Private C.A. Brooks Can. Forestry Corps 29163 Gunner R.W. Brown Royal Field Artillery L/10538 Private W.E. Brown Royal West Kent Regt. 2503576 Private B. Brunick Can. Forestry Corps MS/3878 Corporal J. Burgess Ryl. Army Service Corps 54246 Private J. Cavanagh Welsh Regiment 3282 Private M.A. Codling Ryl. Army Medical Corps 23521 2nd Air Mech. E.J. Coleman Royal Flying Corps 9278 Private A.J. Cottrell Royal Berkshire Regiment 2356689 Private J. Crawford Can. Forestry Corps 031214 Private E.F. Cridland Ryl. Army Ordnance Corps 281207 Corporal S.W. Davies Royal Air Force 2487419 Private E. Duceppe Can. Forestry Corps 21950 Private J. Faulkner Gloucestershire Regiment 297503 Private A. Fisher Can. Forestry Corps 3205418 Private Charlie Fitz Can. Forestry Corps Lieutenant A. S. Fleming Can. Forestry Corps Geoff Chew g.chew@rhul.ac.uk

No - a ROSE family lived there in 1911. There's no George J Holland indexed and 18 pages of George Hollands :( Anne South Australia patrick holland wrote: > > Hello, > > In July 1916, the following was the address, of my relatives, Mr. and > Mrs. George J. Holland, of 20, Riverhall St., South Lambeth, London. Can > some kind person please tell me if they appear at that address on the > 1911 census. Thank you. > > Patrick Holland. > > Perth, Western Australia . > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cool it: didn'y you notice the real btinternet address, and the spoof signature (Donald Duck) and spoof address? The message was pretty obviously from a pukka UK taxpayer... Geoff Geoffrey Chew g.chew@rhul.ac.uk ________________________________ From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of J K gen Sent: Fri 6.11.09 14:12 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] GRO Digitisation Project > Sadly common sense went years ago in the UK. I might be persuaded to agree with this comment, but only when all overseas users of UK facilities come and live in this county and pay taxes for the privilege. JK

Hi Anne, Thanks for looking. I wonder if George James Holland and his wife Melita and their family were still living at 8 Tracey St, Kennington in 1911, which is where they were living at the time of the 1901 census. Patrick. Perth, Western Australia Anne Chambers wrote: > No - a ROSE family lived there in 1911. > > There's no George J Holland indexed and 18 pages of George Hollands :( > > Anne > South Australia > > patrick holland wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> In July 1916, the following was the address, of my relatives, Mr. and >> Mrs. George J. Holland, of 20, Riverhall St., South Lambeth, London. Can >> some kind person please tell me if they appear at that address on the >> 1911 census. Thank you. >> >> Patrick Holland. >> >> Perth, Western Australia . >> *************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Nivard, . Sadly, you are right about the lack of space at Heilly Station cemetery, which following the death of 20,000 British troops in just one day on the first day of the battle of the Somme , resulted in multiple burials. My uncle was wounded at Oviliers, on the 1st. July 1916. He died 4 days later at the 36th Casualty Clearing Station at Heilly. In a photo, I have taken of his gravestone at Heilly , one can see several other gravestones nearby which carry more than one type of regimental badges indicating that several men are buried in that grave. Patrick in Perth ( Western Australia) Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Patrick > > The reason for the multiple burials were due to lack of space in the > cemetery > > Certainly better than the thousands of men who were commemorated on > memorials due to their remains never having been found > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> Hi Fionnghal, >> >> Thanks for your useful comments.. I had a look at the sites you >> mentioned but unfortunately I did 'nt find him. I 'll contact the >> Imperial War Museum and see if they can help. I do have a photo of his >> gravestone in the Heilly Station Cemetery in France. It was taken by a >> friend whose own relative was buried there. I must admit that I was >> taken by surprise and slightly disappointed to find the names of two >> other men, from different regiments to his own , written on his >> gravestone. >> >> L 'Chaim. >> >> Patrick Holland. >> > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

IHi Everyone, Could someone be kind enough to tell me if a James C Frost who lived in Bermondsey or is it London in 1911 census?James was born1857 in Peckham,Surrey .He's married to Mary 40Yrs old,Islington I found him in 1901 James is 44 yrs .Engine Fitter They have 6 children Emma 16 James 14 Mabel 12 George 10 Beatrice 6 Ivy 1 Appreciate any help given Thanks Laura USA > eng-surrey@rootsweb.com >

Hello, In July 1916, the following was the address, of my relatives, Mr. and Mrs. George J. Holland, of 20, Riverhall St., South Lambeth, London. Can some kind person please tell me if they appear at that address on the 1911 census. Thank you. Patrick Holland. Perth, Western Australia .

Hi Jan, You may already have this There are two marriages on ancestry for a James Baker MOORE plus a Bradley tree with him in. 1st possibly your James son married Sarah CONWAY, aged 26 , bachelor Baker, of Guildford Street, father James MOORE, Gent married Sarah Conway, 27, spinster of Guildford Street, father John conway - Stone mason parish of St George the Martyr Southwark witnesses Richard henry Brigden and Elizabeth Mary Moore 6th July, 1846 2. Second one to Martha Sharman, father John baker Moore mercantile Clerk Married St Mary Lambeth Likely these two fathers are brothers....... I am sending them to you offlist. There is also a William Baker Moore marrying. seems likely they are all brothers. The Churches you are interested are being transcribed on ancestry and if you don't have access, suggest you post periodically. Or failing that you can check the LDS Library catalogue to see whether you can get the films out and collect all. Sending a whole lot off line Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia I'd be very grateful for any information about the parents/birth/marriage of James Baker MOORE who may have married Elizabeth FITCH in Southwark in 1819 please. Many thanks, Jan in sunny Queensland

Hello. My sincerest thanks to all those members of the Surrey mailing list who have helped me in my search for a WW1 memorial which includes the name of my uncle, Pte. George Stephen Holland DCM on it. I still intend to press owners of the Lambeth WW1 memorial for his name to be added to their memorial. I am inspired to do so because earlier this year in Australia, that is exactly what happened , when the name of a man who had been killed in WW2 , but whose name was not included on the local memorial when it was put up, was finally added..Over the years members of his family had insisted that his name should be added and eventually, although it was by now over 60 years late, it finally was added. As the old saying goes, better late than never. Kind regards. Patrick Holland.

> > > Sadly common sense went years ago in the UK. > > I might be persuaded to agree with this comment, but only when all overseas users of UK facilities come and live in this county and pay taxes for the privilege. JK

I agree Anne its all Quackers. Sadly common sense went years ago in the UK. Donald D. Orlando Florida   ________________________________ From: Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 6 November, 2009 9:15:58 Subject: Re: [SRY] GRO Digitisation Project Interesting  - what with all the bird names, it sounds like it's going to be a bit of a dead duck !  What's the point in having yet another online index (FreeBMD & Ancestry are there already)  if the actual registers aren't going to be available online ? Anne South Australia Ann Sargeant wrote: >  This news will doubtless be of interest to Surrey researchers. > >  The General Register Office has just announced that the digitisation of > GRO's >  births, marriages and deaths records is moving forward and a new project, >  called the Digitisation and Indexing (D&I) Project, has been initiated. > >  The new project covers the digitisation of the records themselves together >  with indexing and upgrading the online certificate ordering process. The >  digitisation page on the IPS corporate website has been updated and further >  details including a Q&  A can be accessed via >  http://www.ips.gov.uk/cps/rde/xchg/ips_live/hs.xsl/1090.htm > >  Ann > Surrey Admin > *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd be very grateful for any information about the parents/birth/marriage of James Baker MOORE who may have married Elizabeth FITCH in Southwark in 1819 please. Many thanks, Jan in sunny Queensland

Hallo Ann I am sure we are all very grateful to Sir Humphrey for his careful explanation...... Many thanks for passing this on.  I wonder if this means that the petition had some effect and whether this project will see the light of day, given that the time scale for the next stage is the fourth quarter of 2010, ie after the general election. Let's hope so. Hilary > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:41:34 -0000 > From: "Ann Sargeant" <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com> > Subject: [SRY] GRO Digitisation Project > To: "Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com" > <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1EDB9F53C3CE4A329FB94DE83C497AEE@HomePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; >     reply-type=response > >  This news will doubtless be of interest to Surrey > researchers. > >  The General Register Office has just announced that the > digitisation of > GRO's >  births, marriages and deaths records is moving forward and > a new project, >  called the Digitisation and Indexing (D&I) Project, > has been initiated. > >  The new project covers the digitisation of the records > themselves together >  with indexing and upgrading the online certificate > ordering process. The >  digitisation page on the IPS corporate website has been > updated and further >  details including a Q & A can be accessed via >  http://www.ips.gov.uk/cps/rde/xchg/ips_live/hs.xsl/1090.htm > >  Ann > Surrey Admin >

This reminds me that the war memorial at Englefield Green (St Jude's cemetery) has no names on it (the individual graves in the cemetery had the names), but that the 62 names from World War I were listed in the programme for the dedication of the memorial on 10 November 1929. I'll post them in three separate messages, with their own subject heading. A number of the names are of men from the Canadian Forestry Corps, who were posted locally to fell trees in Windsor Great Park and elsewhere for the war effort; some of them were drafted to France and Belgium and were killed there. Geoff Geoffrey Chew g.chew@rhul.ac.uk ________________________________ From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Ann Sargeant Subject: Re: [SRY] Surrey WW1 and WW2 War Memorials West Surrey FHS has published MS28 "Surrey War Memorials Index" which contains more than 35,000 names of those who died in the two World Wars and commemorated on war memorials, rolls of honour and war graves in Surrey.[...] Details are on the website at: http://www.wsfhs.org/MicroFicheMS.htm