Hi Pam Is this a possible for his parents Marriages Jun 1915 Lines Charles F J Walton Croydon 2a 739 Walton Dorothy M Lines Croydon 2a 739 And a possible sibling Name: Jean D Lines Mother's Maiden Surname: Walton Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1926 Registration district: Croydon Registration county: Surrey,Kent Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 404 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > In memory of my aunts husband Geoffrey C LINES I might just again post him > to the list. > Hopefully someone will have him dangling from their branches and I can at > last put a face and family to this man. > Geoffrey C Lines born 4th May, 1918 in Croydon Surrey. > parents unknown - father LINES mother WALTON. > Died Tunis 23rd February, 1943. > Married Elsie Caroline DULLEY 1940 in Croydon. > > Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia

Thanks Michael Being a one-namer, means that sometimes one goes off on wild-goose chases, in my own line John LAWs & Mary ??? were at Walworth Surrey (Near Elephant & Castle, Old Kent Road etc) in the late 1790's early 1800's, this area was pretty newly developed so where did they originate one can only guess. Kind regards John P Laws Registrar of The LAWS FAMILY REGISTER www.lawsfamilyregister.org.uk (Member 674, Guild of One-Name Studies, since 1984) Researching:- LAW, LAWE, LAWES, LAWS, LAWSE, McLAW & McLAWS & allied families worldwide. Our database includes over 58 Thousand People as part of over 16 Thousand Families having over 131 Thousand Events in over 59 Thousand Places across the World. Also:- Moderator: LAW & LAWS-UK mailing lists and message boards at Rootsweb.com

Hello, I am very new to using mailing lists. I took a friends advice to ask for some help to find a will. My great great great grandfather on a certified copy of an entry of death from the registration district Saint George Southwark in the County of Surrey death in the Sub- distrit of Borough Road 1865 George Earle died 3rd of April 1865 at Chadwell Place Green Street. He was 64 and a wine cooper. His daughter Emma Woods was the informant. The death was registered the 3rd April 1865. The Registrar was Henry Clement Elliott. I would like the information necessary to order a copy of a will if it exists. Thank you in-advance for any direction you can give me on how to get this information. Marcia

I REMEMBER: My dad's brother Ted (Edward W. H. Clifton) was a British Commando in WWII and his brother-in-law, George Elson, was in the RAF Ground Forces and Barrage Balloon barges on the Thames. My paternal grandfather, Edward Clifton, was apparently an Air Raid Warden, [all three former names of Surrey relevance] and my maternal grandfather, George Bradbury, was first a courier (on motor bike) till injured and then became a cook, serving the forces in Italy during WWII. I also have an "uncle" (really my mom's cousin by marriage I believe) who was in the Polish underground fighting the Nazi's; lost a leg, but saved his own and many lives I garner. Add to that all the other survivors, particularly the women who kept the home fires burning, who served and worked in ways they never imagined would be needed to preserve hearth and home and support their soldiers, whose love, prayers and hope never failed. And the children, who experienced fears and wonders they never invented or desired, who bore the scars of childish perception of horrible things, and who lived on to remind and raise the rest of us. Blessed be the memory of those who, whether through ignorance or wisdom, by choice or by force, ultimately gave of themselves so that others could have the hope of freedom and peace. "Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." Michael Clifton Canada

John Bridgeman wrote: > I used to use the freeware programe 'Parish Locator' > I now have a 'Windows 7' PC & this programme will not run ( even in compatability mode) > > Has anybody found a way of making it run under 'Windows 7' or is there a similar programme that will run under 'Windows 7'? > > Many Thanks > > John > Running XP. Googled "Parish Locator", from top entry was only able to download parishlocator.zip This unzipped, installed and run OK. Did you make a fresh Parish Locator install in Win 7 or was it copied from a backup. If you did a upgrade did you run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor tinyurl.com/no4xb7 Have you checked the Windows 7 Compatibility Centre at tinyurl.com/ydcatp6 The local magazine New Zealand PCWorld November 2009 has a excellent 10 page article on Windows 7. Have you looked at > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=b3c68ec2-e726-4830-ac89-31c71d6be5f3 Frank

Hallo John It sound as though you have already checked the census returns for the Godstone area and not found these two gentlemen in residence with their families. You may already be aware that the Godstone registration district includes Caterham, which had two large groups of transient residents. The first was the barracks - The Guards and others, and the second was one of the large London Lunatic Asylums. 'The Imbeciles Asylum at Caterham was one of the first institutions erected by the Metropolitan Asylums Board which had been set up in 1867 to administer care for certain categories of the sick poor in metropolitan London.' Taken from Peter Higgenbotham's excellent workhouse site at http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?MAB-Caterham/MAB-Caterham.shtml Although established for 'imbeciles' the hospital did accept some patients who were mentally ill. Examination of the certificates would be helpful, but it gets expensive checking up on all 'your' large family. It is possible that somebody has one or both of these men in their tree, but has discounted their deaths on the assumption that the location does not fit with the rest of their family histories. Hilary > > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:49:01 -0000 > From: "John P Laws" <johnplaws@f2s.com> > Subject: Re: [SRY] Parish Locator + Have you seen any LAWS > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000101ca619f$9885a470$c990ed50$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain;    > charset="us-ascii" > > > > By the way has anyone come across a > > Frank LAWS Bn 1870 died 1898 Godstone SRY 3Q 28 2a > Or > George Henry LAWS bn 1832 died 1898 Godstone SRY 1Q 2a 148 > > We have 58,999 LAW,LAWES,LAWS but can't find a home for > theses two > > > John P Laws. (Member 674, Guild of One-Name Studies, since > 1984) > Researching LAW, LAWE, LAWES, LAWS, LAWSE, McLAW & > McLAWS & allied families > worldwide. > Website "Laws Family Register" at - > www.lawsfamilyregister.org.uk > Over 58 Thousand People as part of over 16 Thousand > Families having over 131 > Thousand Events in over 59 Thousand Places across the > World. > Also:- > Moderator: LAW & LAWS-UK mailing lists and message > boards at Rootsweb.com

With the gloomy weather of November upon us, some really enjoyable evenings can help to brighten the dull days. Everyone - Members, their guests, and visitors - is very welcome to come along to any of the November meetings listed here. All meetings are free to attend. TONIGHT Nov 10 at Guildford - "Artificial Light - illuminated and illuminating". Peter Gillman from National Trust will give an introduction to the history of domestic lighting, which changed little from the days of the Romans until the 18th century and very rapidly thereafter. Nov 12 at Woking - 'Serendipity' . This will be an Informal Meeting, where everyone will be welcome to contribute a short item. You may have an ancestral artefact, an interesting ancestor, have discovered an unusual resource etc. etc! Everyone comes up with such interesting stories at these meetings it's sure to be a most enjoyable evening, even if you only come to listen. Nov 18 at Camberley - "Criminal Petitions in the TNA". Brenda Mortimer will tell the moving tale of 19th Century petitions for mercy, sent to the Crown. This is a fascinating source coming to light after 200 years. Name indexes are being drawn up - could one be yours? Nov 19 at Pyrford (Computer Group)** - "Browsing Techniques" A presentation designed to help improve basic pc skills ensuring you get the best from your browser followed by practical application on your own or a shared laptop. Nov 24 at Walton on Thames - "Searching the 1911 Census". This will be a 'members' evening when all can share tips and help for getting the best from the 1911 census. The Centre's own laptop should be pressed into service to help with practical demonstrations. Nov 27 at Farnham - "Traditional Christmas in Song" More of an entertainment than a talk, Steve Jordan will present a collection of less well known songs and snippets from festive seasons of years gone by. It should be an enjoyable prelude to Christmas 2009. (Steve is an authority on Music Hall history and artistes.) You do not need to be a Member of WSFHS to attend any of the foregoing. Venues and times and travel directions are on the website at: http://www.wsfhs.org/meetings.htm The WSFHS bookstall is usually present at most of the meetings and in most cases refreshments are available. Journals of many other FHSs are made available at the meetings on a rolling basis. **(There is currently disruption due to road works in Pyrford so email me off list if you need more information about this or the other venues.) Enjoy! Ann Surrey List Admin

I have recently read that the visitation of Surrey has a piece on the surname Agmondisham/Agmondesham that includes Philip. From other research, Philip was a brother to the line I am researching. Hoping SKS might be able to tell me what is written on this surname in the visitation. This line is associated with Heston Middlesex and Buntingford Hertsfordshire Thank you Karen Australia

Hi Eddie, First Robert 1. I have found Roberts marriage to Catherine Houghton which was in fact 16/11/1879 in St mary's lambeth, father William - I will send you a copy OFFLIST. Witness at the marriage was a Charles Frankcom. 2. In 1851 he with with a relative and I think his parents William brother in Law, Susan, sister in Law, and Robert 4 months. 3. In 1861 he is with his grandparents Thomas Tiddamen 65. born Brancaster, Norfolk and Elizabeth 67, born Heacham Norfolk aged 11 (born circa 1850. There doesn't seem to be any other that fits. 4. Death - 2 option comes up I am leaning towards the second one but you will have to get the certificate to be certain. Robert Tidman born circa 1849 died 1897 District of Westminster London, Msx June Quarter aged 48 (1a page 311) or This might be your Robert......Robert Tidman circa 1850 died 1891 District of Shoreditch London Msx June Quarter 1891 aged 41 (1c page 84) Now Eliza 1. I may have found her aged 11 on the 1861 with parents uriah and Eliza born Bristol, Gloucestershire. which makes her age right, and she is the only one that comes up on the 1861 for that date range......no sign of Charles if he was a brother.......living Bristol 2. and if it's her.... 1851 with parents Uriah and eliza in Bristol 3. Charles Frankcom (witness to marriage) is on the 1881 census parents Charles and sophia born 1871 born Bristol, same Parish district as Uriah and Eliza (might be a cousin??) making him 19 at time of being a witness..... 4. there is a marriage for a Robert Tidman in December Q, 1871 Westminster (1a, page 696) to an Eliza Rainsford (perhaps she was married before) OR it could be a red herring. Hope some of this helps, or have I muddued the waters. Sending Roberts Married to Catherine offlist and 1861 for Eliza Frankcom Cheers pam from Adelaide Australia > Eliza Tidman nee Frankcom died in 1878 in Wandsworth. She was 27 > therefore making her birth around 1851. She married Robert Tidman and > had Two daughters, Sarah Jane in 1873 and Elizabeth in 1875. I cannot > find Eliza in the 1871 census or of a marriage recorcd. Any help or > advice would be appreciated. > Robert Tidman was born in Ranworth, Norfolk in 1851. After the death of > his first wife Eliza in 1878 he remarried Catherine Houghton in 1880. > How may I find when he died please.

Adobe image of printed visitation sent off-list Regards Cliff Webb -----Original Message----- From: Karen Hodges [mailto:rowantreek@gmail.com] Sent: 09 November 2009 23:26 To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] Agmondesham in the visitation I have recently read that the visitation of Surrey has a piece on the surname Agmondisham/Agmondesham that includes Philip. From other research, Philip was a brother to the line I am researching. Hoping SKS might be able to tell me what is written on this surname in the visitation. This line is associated with Heston Middlesex and Buntingford Hertsfordshire Thank you Karen Australia Disclaimer Rattner Mackenzie Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA). Registered in England & Wales No.: 02303498. Registered Office: 1 Tower Place West, Tower Place, London, EC3R 5BU, UK. This message and any attachments are confidential. If you have received this message in error please delete it from your system. If you require any assistance please notify the sender. Thank you. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

In addition to the below: George Henry Laws, chr. 11 Sept 1835, St. Geo. the Martyr, Southwark (father, George; mother, Mary Ann) Again, no certainty this is your man. Seems even less likely than the below anyway. M -----Original Message----- Don't know if he is your fellow, but I found the following on LDS Family Search: Frank Lawes, b. 10 mar 1870 Wimbledon, Surrey. Father, George Henry Lawes; Mother, Mary. -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:49 PM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Parish Locator + Have you seen any LAWS Hi John It runs perfectly well for me though I do keep it in a Folder By the way has anyone come across a Frank LAWS Bn 1870 died 1898 Godstone SRY 3Q 28 2a Or George Henry LAWS bn 1832 died 1898 Godstone SRY 1Q 2a 148 We have 58,999 LAW,LAWES,LAWS but can't find a home for theses two John P Laws.

Eliza Tidman nee Frankcom died in 1878 in Wandsworth. She was 27 therefore making her birth around 1851. She married Robert Tidman and had Two daughters, Sarah Jane in 1873 and Elizabeth in 1875. I cannot find Eliza in the 1871 census or of a marriage recorcd. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Robert Tidman was born in Ranworth, Norfolk in 1851. After the death of his first wife Eliza in 1878 he remarried Catherine Houghton in 1880. How may I find when he died please.

Hi John It runs perfectly well for me though I do keep it in a Folder By the way has anyone come across a Frank LAWS Bn 1870 died 1898 Godstone SRY 3Q 28 2a Or George Henry LAWS bn 1832 died 1898 Godstone SRY 1Q 2a 148 We have 58,999 LAW,LAWES,LAWS but can't find a home for theses two John P Laws. (Member 674, Guild of One-Name Studies, since 1984) Researching LAW, LAWE, LAWES, LAWS, LAWSE, McLAW & McLAWS & allied families worldwide. Website "Laws Family Register" at - www.lawsfamilyregister.org.uk Over 58 Thousand People as part of over 16 Thousand Families having over 131 Thousand Events in over 59 Thousand Places across the World. Also:- Moderator: LAW & LAWS-UK mailing lists and message boards at Rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Bridgeman Sent: 09 November 2009 23:49 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] Parish Locator I used to use the freeware programe 'Parish Locator' I now have a 'Windows 7' PC & this programme will not run ( even in compatability mode) Has anybody found a way of making it run under 'Windows 7' or is there a similar programme that will run under 'Windows 7'? Many Thanks John *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I used to use the freeware programe 'Parish Locator' I now have a 'Windows 7' PC & this programme will not run ( even in compatability mode) Has anybody found a way of making it run under 'Windows 7' or is there a similar programme that will run under 'Windows 7'? Many Thanks John

Don't know if he is your fellow, but I found the following on LDS Family Search: Frank Lawes, b. 10 mar 1870 Wimbledon, Surrey. Father, George Henry Lawes; Mother, Mary. -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:49 PM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Parish Locator + Have you seen any LAWS Hi John It runs perfectly well for me though I do keep it in a Folder By the way has anyone come across a Frank LAWS Bn 1870 died 1898 Godstone SRY 3Q 28 2a Or George Henry LAWS bn 1832 died 1898 Godstone SRY 1Q 2a 148 We have 58,999 LAW,LAWES,LAWS but can't find a home for theses two John P Laws. (Member 674, Guild of One-Name Studies, since 1984) Researching LAW, LAWE, LAWES, LAWS, LAWSE, McLAW & McLAWS & allied families worldwide. Website "Laws Family Register" at - www.lawsfamilyregister.org.uk Over 58 Thousand People as part of over 16 Thousand Families having over 131 Thousand Events in over 59 Thousand Places across the World. Also:- Moderator: LAW & LAWS-UK mailing lists and message boards at Rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Bridgeman Sent: 09 November 2009 23:49 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] Parish Locator I used to use the freeware programe 'Parish Locator' I now have a 'Windows 7' PC & this programme will not run ( even in compatability mode) Has anybody found a way of making it run under 'Windows 7' or is there a similar programme that will run under 'Windows 7'? Many Thanks John *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very much for that, Jo. I cannot read the street name, can you please? Thanks, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "jo mason" <jo.mason@swsmail.net> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] MOORE > Sent. > Jo in Leics > > jo.mason@swsmail.net > holmested@one-name.org > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List, Is anybody please able to find in the 1841 census any of the following ( not found in Ancestry.com ) ANN ARBON born abt 1760 Surrey, widow age 90 in 1851 Malden with daughter ELIZABETH WOOD. JAMES ARBON born 1805 Malden, wife MARY born 1804 Headley, married 1828 St Marylebone. Found son James baptised 1829 age 11 born Marylebone at school in Hendon, no other known children. 1851 Census has James, Mary and son James at Seymour Mews, Rectory District, St Marylebone where James senior is a Job Master. 1861 has James and Mary at Hyde House Kingsbury Middlesex, he as farmer. Many thanks to all those who love a hunt and are able to find them. Daphne New Zealand.

Hilary said: PM > Subject: [SRY] Mount Street and Cemetery Records > > I've now lost track of who made the original comment that the cemetery > records were lost in fire, but if it was a cemetery, as opposed to a > churchyard there may be a second set of registers somewhere. I am currently > helping to transcribe burial records and one set is kept at the local > crematorium and another at the town hall. The borough archivist might know > if this is the case here. > There were not a duplicate set of burial records for the Mount old section but the local archaeological society have recorded all the monumental inscriptions and listed the names. This is deposited at the museum in Guildford - obviously it only helps for burials with memorials but it's better than nothing. The only other option for finding burials here are the death notices in the local papers. regards IAN Friends of Surrey Cemeteries _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/

John, In 1841, I found James Arbon, 40, in Suffolk and Ann, 45, in Suffolk.  Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ________________________________ From: John Scott <jaydeescott@xtra.co.nz> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 8 November, 2009 22:00:23 Subject: [SRY] 1841 Census for ARBON Hi List, Is anybody please able to find in the 1841 census any of the following ( not found in Ancestry.com ) ANN ARBON born abt 1760 Surrey, widow age 90 in 1851 Malden with daughter ELIZABETH WOOD. JAMES ARBON born 1805 Malden, wife MARY born 1804 Headley, married 1828 St Marylebone. Found son James baptised 1829 age 11 born Marylebone at school in Hendon, no other known children. 1851 Census has James, Mary and son James at Seymour Mews, Rectory District, St Marylebone where James senior is a Job Master. 1861 has James and Mary at Hyde House  Kingsbury Middlesex, he as farmer. Many thanks to all those who love a hunt and are able to find them. Daphne New Zealand. *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am trying to find out anything about the ancestors of my great great grandfather WILLIAM CLARKE DURHAM born in Tottenham, Middlesex in 1825. Does anyone have him in their family? Thanks Tim