Have you checked The Times Digital Archive or www.historicaldirectories.org to see if perhaps he was in business and bankrupted before he became a pauper ? Anne South Australia Bob wrote: > Ann, > > Thank you for that information, however, I am looking for a listing of the > members of the family of an Edward Chitty who died in Croydon in January of > 1796 and was entered in the parish burial register with a "P". This seems > to be the designation for a pauper so I believed it unlikely that any > property was owned or would be listed in any of the tax records. I was > hoping that some census type document may have survived or that some poor > law records might be available for the period that would list the family > names - beyond; "Mary and her two sons and three daughters". > > I have been through the parish registers and have a list of the births and > deaths of the children of Edward and Mary. One daughter was christened as > Fanny on 5 March, 1786 at St John and, apparently, wed as Mary in 1805 in > Stretham. I have a large amount of family, oral history that tells me that > this is the person I want, but I was looking for a household record, circa > 1790 which may have used the Mary name to further establish the connection. > > Bob > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Ann Sargeant<ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com>wrote: > >> From: "Bob"<efr54321@gmail.com> >> >>> Does anyone know of any type of record which may cover list the residents >>> of >>> Croydon during the years between 1782 and 1796? >> >> Really depends what you're looking for Bob. Presumably you've already >> eliminated parish registers? How about the Land Tax Records which include >> coverage for Croydon in this period? .... >> > > >> Ann >> > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. No joy yet, but we will continue to look. Bob

I'm searching for any obituary or death notice for James Mackenzie ROBERTS, a surveyor and architect who was lodging at 7 Edward Street, Newington, Surrey when he died on 30 March 1890. His home was at Dedham, Essex and he was buried there (well, actually, at the neighbouring parish of Brantham, Suffolk), but no local Essex or Suffolk newspaper seems to have carried any obit. I am wondering if one of the South London papers might have carried a death notice or obit, but getting down to the Southwark Local History Library to search the microfilm just isn't possible. Is there any kind soul out there familiar with the archives who might be able to check easily for me? In particular: South London News South London Chronicle South London Press Southwark and Bermondsey Recorder South London Observer/Camberwell and Peckham Times South London Mail He lodged in Southwark/Lambeth throughout the 1850s, 60s, 70s and 80s and must have worked locally, although the only project I know of is the 1851 planned (and subsequently abandoned) conversion of a former philanthropic chapel in St George's Road, Southwark into the parish church of St Jude. No doubt he worked on other projects so if anyone has info on surveyors and architects in this part of south London during this period I'd be pleased to make contact. Thanks! Rob

Have you checked all the wills on the Surrey Wills Index web site? There are loads of Chitty ones. Jo in Leics jo.mason@swsmail.net holmested@one-name.org

From: "Bob" <efr54321@gmail.com> .......... I am looking for a listing of the > members of the family of an Edward Chitty who died in Croydon in January > of > 1796 and was entered in the parish burial register with a "P". This seems > to be the designation for a pauper so I believed it unlikely that any > property was owned or would be listed in any of the tax records. I was > hoping that some census type document may have survived or that some poor > law records might be available for the period that would list the family > names - beyond; "Mary and her two sons and three daughters". > > I have been through the parish registers and have a list of the births and > deaths of the children of Edward and Mary. One daughter was christened as > Fanny on 5 March, 1786 at St John and, apparently, wed as Mary in 1805 in > Stretham. I have a large amount of family, oral history that tells me > that > this is the person I want, but I was looking for a household record, circa > 1790 which may have used the Mary name to further establish the > connection. Well, just in case it should help at some point there is just one entry in the Land Tax index for Chittey (sic) and variant surname spelling listed for Croydon, and that is 'Widow Chittey in 1808'. There are many instances of people who to all intents and purposes are documented as "having nothing" but who still left a will. Even the humblest of folk left wills so well worth checking because they can be a wonderful source of information about family relationships. If really lucky you just might find one that talks of "Fanny otherwise known as Mary........". Obviously a long shot, but nothing ventured............ Wills for Croydon folk could, of course, be proved elsewhere eg PCC, but Croydon was itself a Peculiar and a will (if there is one) may be at Lambeth Palace Library rather than amongst the more usual Archdeaconry Court Wills. Copies of wills proved in the Peculiar of the Deanery of Croydon are on film at Surrey History Centre (and probably also on film at LMA). Poor Law material for Croydon is limited in comparison to the size of the town, although there are mentions of Chitty as overseers of the poor - not of obvious help. Croydon Local Studies Library may be able to help further as I seem to remember they have Vestry Minutes and other records (SHC probably have copies whereas Croydon LS have the originals). Maybe others will come up with something I've not yet thought of as this kind of puzzle is always one that really nags away until it can be solved. Such a great feeling when it eventually does all fall into place, though. Ann

Seeking information on the family of Joseph Ernest Lane born 1/28/1887 in Kenley Coulsdon. He was the son of Joseph Lane and Sarah Titchener.(widow) married 14 Apr 1877 Coulsdon Joseph immigrated to the USA abt. 1908 and left behind his sisters; Florence Alice Lane b. 1/4/1878 Beatrice Ellen Lane 9/25/1880 Amy Ruth Lane 4/26/1882 Half Sisters, Clara Annie Garlick 11 Apr 1862 Caroline Garlick 27 Apr 1865 Mary Ann Garlick 21 Apr 1867 Emma Garlick 06 Mar 1869 Minnie Garlick 15 Jan 1871 Ada Garlick 21 Apr 1873 Mable Garlick 14 Aug 1875 James Garlick and Sarah were married 6/23/1861 Coulsdon Does anyone know of this family and what happened to the sisters and half sisters ? Thank you Carol Boyd Carol Boyd Cape May, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-surrey-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:20 AM Subject: ENG-SURREY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 327 > > > If you'd like your Digest format changed, please don't hesitate to contact > me, Ann, at the Surrey List Admin address: > Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com > > To send a reply, or a new message to the List send it to > Eng-Surrey@rootsweb.com > > When replying to an earlier message please change the Subject line to > reflect the content, and trim away unnecessary parts of earlier postings. > Always use Plain Text for List Messages - if unsure contact List Admin for > help. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Guildford Church (michael) > 2. Re: Guildford Church (Gerry Warrington) > 3. Death of R.A. Gunners NORWOOD & COCHRANE ( 1844 ) > (MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com) > 4. MILLS/LARBY (Gwen Sperry) > 5. CROYDON RECORDS 1782 - 1796 ? (Bob) > 6. IMERSON, NOTLEY, SPORLE, CRUMP & HOWES. ( 1857 ) > (MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com) > 7. Re: Farnham 1914 and Parfitt (Roots) > 8. Re: CROYDON RECORDS 1782 - 1796 ? (Ann Sargeant) > 9. Re: CROYDON RECORDS 1782 - 1796 ? (Bob) > 10. Re: CROYDON RECORDS 1782 - 1796 ? (Anne Chambers) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:29 -0000 > From: "michael" <michael@allbrook.com> > Subject: Re: [SRY] Guildford Church > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <B783E004C19D4A938591B278DB6F6382@allbrookpc1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Please correct me but I believe that the route of pilgrimage from > Winchester > to Canterbury was to St Catherine's, Guildford, then along the road in > Guildford now called Pilgrims' Way, to St Martha's, to Newlands Corner and > thence to Canterbury > Michael Allbrook > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jo mason > Sent: 15 November 2009 16:03 > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SRY] Guildford Church > > Hello Chris & Gerry > Looking at pictures online it is St Catherine's. Most of the picture is > the > scenery & trees as with many of his paintings [my husband's grandfather]. > Thanks > Jo > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:05 +0100 > From: "Gerry Warrington" <gerry@privat.dk> > Subject: Re: [SRY] Guildford Church > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E4BE6DE2920E42C4A43D7C9F68252EA4@chywoon> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I believe that the name of Guildford comes from 'golden ford' and below St > Catherines the River Wey is sufficiently shallow to be forded and the sand > at that point is 'golden'. > The pilgrims route was almost as Michael said but the way does not go via > Newlands Corner itself but uses a more level path in the valley south of > Newlands Corner. Gerry in Jutland > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael" <michael@allbrook.com> > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: [SRY] Guildford Church > > >> Please correct me but I believe that the route of pilgrimage from >> Winchester >> to Canterbury was to St Catherine's, Guildford, then along the road in >> Guildford now called Pilgrims' Way, to St Martha's, to Newlands Corner >> and >> thence to Canterbury >> Michael Allbrook >> > . >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:44:25 EST > From: MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com > Subject: [SRY] Death of R.A. Gunners NORWOOD & COCHRANE ( 1844 ) > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cf8.67e5208b.3831ec59@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > >>From The Morning Chronicle ( London, England ), Saturday, March 16, 1844; > Issue 23207. > > FATAL ACCIDENT - TWO MEN KILLED AT WOOLWICH. > Several men of the Royal Artillery were yesterday ( Friday ) afternoon > employed in digging and carting gravel from the gravel-pit, between the > Battery and Repository grounds to the Royal Arsenal, and two of the men, > gunner > and driver NORWOOD, and gunner and driver COCHRANE, belonging to Captain > DYSON's company, 7th battalion, having, in the process of digging gone > under > the bank, the operations, and the state of the ground and gravel above > them, > caused the whole to give way, and falling upon them they were killed > almost instantaneously. Their comrades who were present at the time soon > got out > the bodies and the medical men were promptly on the spot, but life was > totally extinct in the one case, and after two or three gaspings the > other > ceased to exist. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:57:00 -0700 > From: Gwen Sperry <gwensperry@gmail.com> > Subject: [SRY] MILLS/LARBY > To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4B00BF7C.2060702@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi, > I am looking for birth information for Ann MILLS md: Edward LARBY 15 > Nov 1757 Bramshott, Surrey. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Gwen Sperry > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:14:43 -0500 > From: Bob <efr54321@gmail.com> > Subject: [SRY] CROYDON RECORDS 1782 - 1796 ? > To: eng-surrey <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <dd74e8d30911152314u3173ff99sa1e840f229b7635e@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Does anyone know of any type of record which may cover list the residents > of > Croydon during the years between 1782 and 1796? > > Bob > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:01:02 EST > From: MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com > Subject: [SRY] IMERSON, NOTLEY, SPORLE, CRUMP & HOWES. ( 1857 ) > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d47.4cb648e7.3832b51e@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > >>From The Morning Chronicle ( London, England ), Tuesday, February 17, > 1857; Issue 28129. > > MARRIAGES > On the 14th inst., at Penge, William T. IMERSON, B.A., head master of the > Central London District School, of Belmont-cottage, Norwood, to Ann > NOTLEY, > daughter of the late Captain NOTLEY, and stepdaughter of William SPORLE, > Esq., of Bermondsey. > > On the 14th inst., at St. Pancras Church, Richard Law CRUMP, of Port > Elizabeth, Cape of Good Hope, to Anne Mary, eldest daughter of W. H. > HOWES, > Esq., of Anerley-hill, in the county of Surrey. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:53:40 -0000 > From: "Roots" <roots@theholloway.net> > Subject: Re: [SRY] Farnham 1914 and Parfitt > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <6C69AA9F28A742558B77ADB470E2065B@iso26b2359695c> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Sargeant > Sent: 13 November 2009 09:00 > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SRY] Farnham 1914 and Parfitt > > From: " Yvonne Hempston" <beewhy@bigpond.com> >> Hi Ann >> Thank so much for this little glimpse of the past from Farnham. I >> recognise a lot of the names from the past, my dad started work with >> Swain > >> and Jones, collecting cars from the manufacturers in the Midlands and >> driving them back. He used to tell a lot of stories of how hard it was >> in > >> the winter when there were no windscreens in the cars. >> >> When I started work in Farnham, I worked for Eric Patrick, who is no >> longer with us. He was part of >the famous Patrick family and I can >> remember having long chats with him about the past and his family. >It >> was very interesting. > > You're very welcome Yvonne :-)) > > Several of my own family settled in Farnham and had a strong presence in > the > > town for well over a century. Others of them lived there for a while > before > > moving on - as many do. Consequently over the years I've amassed a large > amount of information about the town and her folks. > > Strangely, it wasn't until after posting earlier that I realised there was > a > > Charles PARFITT amongst the casualties (when typing one doesn't > necessarily > read the words - which must sound strange to anyone who doesn't touch > type). > > Anyway, I have a Parfitt connection whereby one of my line married a > Parfitt > > from Farnborough Hants in the 1920s. It occurs to me that as many folk > from Farnham moved to and fro between there and Aldershot and Farnborough > I'm wondering if anyone else here has a link with PARFITTS of Farnham and > can link with the Farnborough ones. > > Ann > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.63/2500 - Release Date: 11/13/09 > 07:54:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:28:52 -0000 > From: "Ann Sargeant" <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [SRY] CROYDON RECORDS 1782 - 1796 ? > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <41387E2B6E44453C8F45F96D5EC5C678@HomePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > From: "Bob" <efr54321@gmail.com> > >> Does anyone know of any type of record which may cover list the residents >> of >> Croydon during the years between 1782 and 1796? > > Really depends what you're looking for Bob. Presumably you've already > eliminated parish registers? How about the Land Tax Records which > include > coverage for Croydon in this period? The Croydon records include a few > appeals in addition to the routine. Although not everyone is listed this > could be worthwhile depending on what you're looking for. The records > themselves are at Surrey History Centre, with indexes held there and in > one > or two other places. Both West and East Surrey FHSs hold copies of the > paper indexes and additionally ESFHS have reproduced the index on CD. > > Given more information it is possible someone here may be able to help > further. > > Ann > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:01:36 -0500 > From: Bob <efr54321@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SRY] CROYDON RECORDS 1782 - 1796 ? > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <dd74e8d30911170001g6e784a7agdd4725c008749e18@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ann, > > Thank you for that information, however, I am looking for a listing of the > members of the family of an Edward Chitty who died in Croydon in January > of > 1796 and was entered in the parish burial register with a "P". This seems > to be the designation for a pauper so I believed it unlikely that any > property was owned or would be listed in any of the tax records. I was > hoping that some census type document may have survived or that some poor > law records might be available for the period that would list the family > names - beyond; "Mary and her two sons and three daughters". > > I have been through the parish registers and have a list of the births and > deaths of the children of Edward and Mary. One daughter was christened as > Fanny on 5 March, 1786 at St John and, apparently, wed as Mary in 1805 in > Stretham. I have a large amount of family, oral history that tells me > that > this is the person I want, but I was looking for a household record, circa > 1790 which may have used the Mary name to further establish the > connection. > > Bob > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Ann Sargeant > <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com>wrote: > >> From: "Bob" <efr54321@gmail.com> >> >> > Does anyone know of any type of record which may cover list the >> > residents >> > of >> > Croydon during the years between 1782 and 1796? >> >> Really depends what you're looking for Bob. Presumably you've already >> eliminated parish registers? How about the Land Tax Records which >> include >> coverage for Croydon in this period? .... >> > > >> Ann >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:49:58 +1030 > From: Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [SRY] CROYDON RECORDS 1782 - 1796 ? > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4B025CAE.1050500@bigpond.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Have you checked The Times Digital Archive or > www.historicaldirectories.org to see if perhaps he was in > business and bankrupted before he became a pauper ? > > Anne > South Australia > > Bob wrote: >> Ann, >> >> Thank you for that information, however, I am looking for a listing of >> the >> members of the family of an Edward Chitty who died in Croydon in January >> of >> 1796 and was entered in the parish burial register with a "P". This >> seems >> to be the designation for a pauper so I believed it unlikely that any >> property was owned or would be listed in any of the tax records. I was >> hoping that some census type document may have survived or that some poor >> law records might be available for the period that would list the family >> names - beyond; "Mary and her two sons and three daughters". >> >> I have been through the parish registers and have a list of the births >> and >> deaths of the children of Edward and Mary. One daughter was christened >> as >> Fanny on 5 March, 1786 at St John and, apparently, wed as Mary in 1805 in >> Stretham. I have a large amount of family, oral history that tells me >> that >> this is the person I want, but I was looking for a household record, >> circa >> 1790 which may have used the Mary name to further establish the >> connection. >> >> Bob >> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Ann >> Sargeant<ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com>wrote: >> >>> From: "Bob"<efr54321@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Does anyone know of any type of record which may cover list the >>>> residents >>>> of >>>> Croydon during the years between 1782 and 1796? >>> >>> Really depends what you're looking for Bob. Presumably you've already >>> eliminated parish registers? How about the Land Tax Records which >>> include >>> coverage for Croydon in this period? .... >>> >> >> >>> Ann >>> >> *************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-SURREY list administrator, send an email to > ENG-SURREY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-SURREY mailing list, send an email to > ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-SURREY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 327 > ******************************************

Have you looked on 1.  www.FreeBMD.org.uk 2. FamilySearch (Google for it) 3. Census returns - see if your local library has a subscription to Ancestry, or you can try a 14 day trial, or other genealogy software. 4. Access to the 1881 census is free, although you may have to register on a site to use it 5. Entered the various names into a search engine eg Google, using double quotes  Thus "Beatrice Ellen Lane" or "Minnie Garlick" Hilary   Message: 4 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:51:27 -0500 From: "Carol Boyd" <grantstbeachbum@comcast.net> Subject: [SRY] Seeking information on the Lane and Garlick families To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <36C78B0B523843129701755A045C01B9@carolPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Seeking information on the family of Joseph Ernest Lane born 1/28/1887 in Kenley Coulsdon. He was the son of Joseph Lane and Sarah Titchener.(widow) married 14 Apr 1877 Coulsdon Joseph immigrated to the USA abt. 1908 and left behind his sisters; Florence Alice Lane b. 1/4/1878 Beatrice Ellen Lane 9/25/1880 Amy Ruth Lane 4/26/1882 Half Sisters, Clara Annie Garlick 11 Apr 1862 Caroline Garlick  27 Apr 1865 Mary Ann Garlick 21 Apr 1867 Emma Garlick 06 Mar 1869 Minnie Garlick  15 Jan 1871 Ada Garlick 21 Apr 1873 Mable Garlick 14 Aug 1875 James Garlick and Sarah were married 6/23/1861 Coulsdon Does anyone know of this family and what happened to the sisters and half sisters ? Thank you Carol Boyd Carol Boyd Cape May, NJ  

From: "Bob" <efr54321@gmail.com> > Does anyone know of any type of record which may cover list the residents > of > Croydon during the years between 1782 and 1796? Really depends what you're looking for Bob. Presumably you've already eliminated parish registers? How about the Land Tax Records which include coverage for Croydon in this period? The Croydon records include a few appeals in addition to the routine. Although not everyone is listed this could be worthwhile depending on what you're looking for. The records themselves are at Surrey History Centre, with indexes held there and in one or two other places. Both West and East Surrey FHSs hold copies of the paper indexes and additionally ESFHS have reproduced the index on CD. Given more information it is possible someone here may be able to help further. Ann

Ann, Thank you for that information, however, I am looking for a listing of the members of the family of an Edward Chitty who died in Croydon in January of 1796 and was entered in the parish burial register with a "P". This seems to be the designation for a pauper so I believed it unlikely that any property was owned or would be listed in any of the tax records. I was hoping that some census type document may have survived or that some poor law records might be available for the period that would list the family names - beyond; "Mary and her two sons and three daughters". I have been through the parish registers and have a list of the births and deaths of the children of Edward and Mary. One daughter was christened as Fanny on 5 March, 1786 at St John and, apparently, wed as Mary in 1805 in Stretham. I have a large amount of family, oral history that tells me that this is the person I want, but I was looking for a household record, circa 1790 which may have used the Mary name to further establish the connection. Bob On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Ann Sargeant <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com>wrote: > From: "Bob" <efr54321@gmail.com> > > > Does anyone know of any type of record which may cover list the residents > > of > > Croydon during the years between 1782 and 1796? > > Really depends what you're looking for Bob. Presumably you've already > eliminated parish registers? How about the Land Tax Records which include > coverage for Croydon in this period? .... > > Ann >

-----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Sargeant Sent: 13 November 2009 09:00 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Farnham 1914 and Parfitt From: " Yvonne Hempston" <beewhy@bigpond.com> > Hi Ann > Thank so much for this little glimpse of the past from Farnham. I > recognise a lot of the names from the past, my dad started work with Swain > and Jones, collecting cars from the manufacturers in the Midlands and > driving them back. He used to tell a lot of stories of how hard it was in > the winter when there were no windscreens in the cars. > > When I started work in Farnham, I worked for Eric Patrick, who is no > longer with us. He was part of >the famous Patrick family and I can > remember having long chats with him about the past and his family. >It > was very interesting. You're very welcome Yvonne :-)) Several of my own family settled in Farnham and had a strong presence in the town for well over a century. Others of them lived there for a while before moving on - as many do. Consequently over the years I've amassed a large amount of information about the town and her folks. Strangely, it wasn't until after posting earlier that I realised there was a Charles PARFITT amongst the casualties (when typing one doesn't necessarily read the words - which must sound strange to anyone who doesn't touch type). Anyway, I have a Parfitt connection whereby one of my line married a Parfitt from Farnborough Hants in the 1920s. It occurs to me that as many folk from Farnham moved to and fro between there and Aldershot and Farnborough I'm wondering if anyone else here has a link with PARFITTS of Farnham and can link with the Farnborough ones. Ann *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.63/2500 - Release Date: 11/13/09 07:54:00

>From The Morning Chronicle ( London, England ), Tuesday, February 17, 1857; Issue 28129. MARRIAGES On the 14th inst., at Penge, William T. IMERSON, B.A., head master of the Central London District School, of Belmont-cottage, Norwood, to Ann NOTLEY, daughter of the late Captain NOTLEY, and stepdaughter of William SPORLE, Esq., of Bermondsey. On the 14th inst., at St. Pancras Church, Richard Law CRUMP, of Port Elizabeth, Cape of Good Hope, to Anne Mary, eldest daughter of W. H. HOWES, Esq., of Anerley-hill, in the county of Surrey.

Does anyone know of any type of record which may cover list the residents of Croydon during the years between 1782 and 1796? Bob

Hi, I am looking for birth information for Ann MILLS md: Edward LARBY 15 Nov 1757 Bramshott, Surrey. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you, Gwen Sperry

I believe that the name of Guildford comes from 'golden ford' and below St Catherines the River Wey is sufficiently shallow to be forded and the sand at that point is 'golden'. The pilgrims route was almost as Michael said but the way does not go via Newlands Corner itself but uses a more level path in the valley south of Newlands Corner. Gerry in Jutland ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael" <michael@allbrook.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] Guildford Church > Please correct me but I believe that the route of pilgrimage from > Winchester > to Canterbury was to St Catherine's, Guildford, then along the road in > Guildford now called Pilgrims' Way, to St Martha's, to Newlands Corner and > thence to Canterbury > Michael Allbrook > . > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From The Morning Chronicle ( London, England ), Saturday, March 16, 1844; Issue 23207. FATAL ACCIDENT - TWO MEN KILLED AT WOOLWICH. Several men of the Royal Artillery were yesterday ( Friday ) afternoon employed in digging and carting gravel from the gravel-pit, between the Battery and Repository grounds to the Royal Arsenal, and two of the men, gunner and driver NORWOOD, and gunner and driver COCHRANE, belonging to Captain DYSON's company, 7th battalion, having, in the process of digging gone under the bank, the operations, and the state of the ground and gravel above them, caused the whole to give way, and falling upon them they were killed almost instantaneously. Their comrades who were present at the time soon got out the bodies and the medical men were promptly on the spot, but life was totally extinct in the one case, and after two or three gaspings the other ceased to exist.

Please correct me but I believe that the route of pilgrimage from Winchester to Canterbury was to St Catherine's, Guildford, then along the road in Guildford now called Pilgrims' Way, to St Martha's, to Newlands Corner and thence to Canterbury Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jo mason Sent: 15 November 2009 16:03 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Guildford Church Hello Chris & Gerry Looking at pictures online it is St Catherine's. Most of the picture is the scenery & trees as with many of his paintings [my husband's grandfather]. Thanks Jo

Hello Chris & Gerry Looking at pictures online it is St Catherine's. Most of the picture is the scenery & trees as with many of his paintings [my husband's grandfather]. Thanks Jo

Hello to all, Does anyone have the PR's for Mitcham, I am trying verify info for the Heartfield family, I have a few children but badly need gaps filled in. Have taken the ones on Ancestry and Family Search and online. Regards Toni in NZ

Could you send a photo off-list? Gerry in Jutland ----- Original Message ----- From: "jo mason" <jo.mason@swsmail.net> To: "Surrey" <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: [SRY] Guildford Church > We have a painting of a church on a domed hill with the river below it > 'in' > Guildford which we thought was St Martha's, but doesn't look like the > hotos - any other suggestions, please? > Thanks. > Jo > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jo, If it's a ruin, it could be St. Catherine's. Best wishes, Chris Townsend ----- Original Message ----- From: "jo mason" <jo.mason@swsmail.net> To: "Surrey" <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: [SRY] Guildford Church > We have a painting of a church on a domed hill with the river below it > 'in' > Guildford which we thought was St Martha's, but doesn't look like the > hotos - any other suggestions, please? > Thanks. > Jo