Looking for any connections to Alfred Harry Carter born 1886 Worth Son of Thomas T. Carter and Alice James Sisters Ethel Kate Carter born 1889 Sutton Surrey Olive Lillian Carter born 1895 Sutton Surrey Family lived 1891 Sutton Surrey 1901 Sutton Surrey 1909 Kettering Street Streatham. Also Steatham 1911. Alfred remained in England after his Father Thomas, sister Olive came to Canada about 1919. His mother died Kettering Street, Streatham in 1909. Ethel Kate was in India and married Davenport 1914. He also had brother William who came to Canada with his wife and daughters before father Thomas. Looking for any info on Alfred after 1909. He married but don't know who or when on that it was after 1909. Thank you Heather

Good point, though Staines is in Middlesex rather than Surrey. (If Egham Hythe was quoted as being in a county other than Egham, too, I'd have thought Middlesex a better bet than Berkshire: it's nearer, and the Berkshire border is at the other end of Egham.) Geoff Geoffrey Chew g.chew@rhul.ac.uk ________________________________ From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Jill Hyams Sent: Sat 5.12.09 08:47 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] Eghamhithe How about St Mary, Staines, which is situated across the river from Egham Hythe? Jill Staines, Middlesex <The only St Mary near Egham is the ancient parish church of St Mary, Thorpe, not far away.> <I have found that there is a Egham located near Staines. I went to Google and did a search (which I can not now replicate) and found that there is a St. Mary? Church near some place in the Egham, Surrey area that is spelled something like Heith.> *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'll join in the fun and hope for a breakthrough! Francis POTTER was a fellmonger in Surrey Street in Croydon. He appears on the 1811 Croydon census there in a family with 2 males and 2 females and I have found the baptisms of 2 children at St John's, Croydon in 1808 (William) and 1810 (Jane). I therefore think he would have married around 1807. Further children were baptised between then and 1833. Francis died in 1838 (I have the certificate) at Overton's Yard (off Surrey Street, possibly also known as Fellmonger's Yard) [Nivard - Henry Overton the brewer is in Surrey Street in 1841 and is presumably the person the yard is named after], and was buried at St John's. His age at death indicates a birth date of 1777 or 1778. His wife Mary Ann seems to have continued the business with her sons, and is listed in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 censuses before her death in 1861. Her ages in the census are consistent with a birth in 1789 or 1790, and her birthplace is given in 1851 as Chichester, Sussex and in 1861 as Croydon. The 1841 census records her as born in Surrey, but the specific entry of Chichester in 1851 makes me think this is more likely. I've checked the IGI, the Surrey Marriage Index and Pallot's for their marriage without success. There is a possible marriage in the London records on Ancestry for Francis Banks Potter and Mary Ann Coulson at St Mary Newington in 1807, but I've no reason to connect this with the family and no other record of the name Banks. I've also looked for baptsims for Francis in Croydon without success, and for Mary Ann in the Chichester transcripts at the Society of Genealogists. There are Potters in both locations going back to the sixteenth century. Can anyone suggest further lines of enquiry (Francis' will is no help), or better still connect with their own research? Bob Brock

Hi Listers Anyone who is not too busy with Christmas shopping etc may know something about John HARTLEY born in Chilham  Kent in  1796, he married Mary Elizabeth GOSBEY in Canterbury and they moved to Handcross Alley in Croydon.  John was a Tallow chandler.  I have their census information in Croydon and the births of their children. 

My wish is to make a breakthrough with research into HENRY PAGE, said in the 1851 census to have been born in Charlwood. I have conflicting information about his year of birth – sometime between 1785 and 1790. HP does not appear in any register of baptisms for Charlwood and surrounding parishes that I have so far managed to access. He had three brothers: Thomas (probably born 1766, place unknown, and died in 1835 in Greenwich), Richard and Charles Robert (I know nothing about these two). By 1810 Henry Page was living in London and for some time was partner in the firm of Hart and Page, snuff and cigar manufacturers. His brother Thomas was for some time partner in Gray’s Inn Coffee House and Tavern. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009

hi folks, I've done this as a separate post as though it my direct line, it wriggles about a bit before returning to Surrey. My James BEAVIS, a bank clerk, [son of Lambeth born JAMES BEAVIS, cheesemonger,] married Elizabeth Lumsden DAVIDSON in 1884 way up in NBL where his work had taken him. Within a few short years, he grew seriously ill, [TB] and they emigrated to NZ for his health, but he died within a couple of years and Elizabeth returned and is next spotted in Kensington, London, remarrying. In 1896 she married Rev Theodore Percy BROCKLEHUSRT, CofE, and they settled in Reigate SRY with her two children, Lena & Ernest Norman BEAVIS now under the name BROCKLEHURST Their own first two kids were born there: Thomas Davidson Theodore Brocklehurst, [Dr] b.1897 Vera Ive Brocklehurst b.1899 Theodore was then moved to YKS where another child was born. However, some time after Theodore's death in 1933, Elizabeth returned to Surrey where she lived until her death in 1949 at Kingswood, Banstead. If anyone recognises this family, I'd be very pleased to hear from them. Wishing you all the very best over Xmas and lots of research successes throughout the coming year. le durachd Fionnghal

hi folks, i've been really tied up lately with only time to respond to the odd posting. I keep hoping that when i get this dealt with or that finished, I'll be able to get back to my research and transcribing, however, it doesn't seem to be happening in much of a rush. :-[ What I'd really appreciate for Xmas would be for my Beavis clan's hidden links to come out of the shadows. They settled in London SRY in the early 1820s, William may even have arrived in his teens perhaps as an apprentice joiner/cabinet maker. I've a suspicion that he originated in Hampshire. I'd love to hear from anyone who could produce that missing link. I haven't found any Wills for any of them unfortunately - a source that could prove very helpful should any come to light. WILLIAM BEAVIS b.c.1801, HAM-SRY area, settled in London as a carpenter. he married Devon lass ANN NORTHCOTT in 1823 and had 8 kids around the Wootton st / Cornwall rd area of Lambeth. By 1828, he'd turned his hand to cheesemongering and he remained so till his death in 1855. Ann kept the grocery going till her death in in 1870 all their sons became cheesemongers/grocers/pork men &c, exc ROBERT who emigrated to Australia in his late teens - the Bendigo gold rush - where he eventually married and set up a hotel. William & Ann's children Edwin b.1824; m. Mary Ann <PORTER> c.1845 Lon. James b.c.1826; m. Jane SALTER [DEV] 1852 Maria-Ann Beavis died an infant; 1828 Lambeth Alfred b.c.1830; m.Jane HOLLIDAY 1860 Lambeth ? baby b/d.c.1832 [evidence c.4yr gap between these brothers] Robert b.c.1834; m. Elizabeth Louisa GROVES bef.1860 VIC Australia Ann b.c.1837; d.bef.1841 i suspect, ?1838 Lambeth Eliza b.1839; m.Thomas George BARNES 1859 Lambeth I've successfully followed up the kids' lines but so far nothing has confirmed where exactly William was born. In the 1841 he says 'Y' b. in SRY however, in the 1851, he says b. Southampton - could be town or county :-|. I have tracked, and followed intensely, a likely HAM family but am still missing the all important paper trail that would bind them solidly together - or separately as may turn out. That research indicates that a William was born there at about the right time; to a family of carpenters; reached adulthood, ie was still alive in 1831; disappears about the time that my William pops up in London. I would really appreciate finding a source of SRY WILLS for this family. I'm sure having had their cheesemongering / grocery businesses, they must have made some arrangements for them to be passed on or sold up on their deaths. I do appreciate i might be whistling in the wind here as London was pretty well turned into charcoal during WW2 and it is possible that many records were destroyed in the bombing raids. How anything survived is little short of a miracle. All thanks to our brave airmen. APPRENTICESHIPS is another source I'd like to research if i had access in the hope that his dad would be named. Has anyone spotted a William Beavis/Bevis &c as a joiner/cabinet maker app., anywhere? I'd be happy to share my research with others researching any of my forebears, their relatives or offshoots. I have found a few entries in the London Gazette relating to this family and am considering ways of accessing any archived records that may be extant in relation to these entries. By a circuitous route, my own branch of Beavis's landed up in Kingston & West Horsely SRY early to mid 1900s Hope you all get your xmas wishes :-) all the very best in the coming year le durachd Fionnghal

As we have many hundred Listers here on Surrey, and quite a number of newcomers, it is inevitable there will be different interpretations of the idea for December, unless some kind of Guideline is published, so here goes: DO please remember that not everybody finds this time of year a 'happy time'. Please therefore be thoughtful, and avoid the sentimental and overly chatty kind of approach. DO post about Surrey people and places. DO give as much information as possible i.e. known dates, places and names. DO say what research has already been carried out. DO make it clear what the 'stumbling block' is DO give your message a meaningful subject line which includes the surname(s) being researched. DO thank anyone that helps. And PLEASE................... DON'T post about people and places outside Surrey unless there is a stated Surrey connection. The List covers the whole of ancient Surrey irrespective of later boundary changes in the nineteenth century. Registration Districts should be ignored for the purpose of determining the correct County. DON'T use 'airy fairy' subject lines. A message is less likely to be read by busy people unless there is a meaningful subject line - it's helpful to include surnames in capital letters. DON'T forget there are folk for whom Christmas is not a happy time, so please be sensitive when posting messages. {Nivard's message today about George Yoel(l) seems to hit exactly the right kind of balance.} See: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-SURREY/2009-12/1260006197 Thank you everyone for your help to make this a worthwhile and pleasant month of postings for everyone, and one which will hopefully get research geared up for the 'starting blocks' in the New Year. Ann Surrey Admin

Hi Wendy. I suggest that you try the Mormons at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp, then click place search, then type in Egham, then Egham Surrey. In the church record indexes, these go from 1560 and if you have contacts or access to the mormans, you can order the relevant microfiche. I very much hope that this is of use All the best Peter -----Original Message----- From: Wendy [mailto:wcooksey@tpg.com.au] Sent: 04 December 2009 05:49 To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] Egham Parish Records Hi Listers Can anyone tell me how I can access the Egham Parish records please? Are they stored in Egham? I am specifically looking for a copy of the original records of a marriage that took place on 24th July 1789 in Egham, between Sarah BURT and William COOKSEY. The index I have does not indicate who the parents of either party were, or which church they married in. Any advice appreciated. As I live in Australia I would very much appreciate an address or email to send my request to. Regards Wendy, Australia

Morning all On the Christmas present theme, I would really like to know more about my elusive g.g.g.grandparents George YOEL(L) and his wife Elizabeth PREIL who married at St Mary Lambeth in 1807 (I have a copy of the marriage) Their son George was born in Streatham in 1808 and as far as I know the only child (I have the baptism) George later married Ann FLETCHER in 1830 and had a large family after the first son Thomas Fletcher YOELL b1831, all in Streatham where many were baptised & married at St Leonards Streatham (I have all the baptisms & marriages) What I would really like is to know what happened to George & Elizabeth as I have nothing on them at all, I don't know if they brought up George or when / where they died or indeed where either originate (I have my suspicions Dulwich & or Croydon) or ended up So not to much sellotape please <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Oops Sorry yes St John the Baptist not St mary's. Got confused with what Bill had writtten. The amount of times I typed that in my database you'd think it would have stuck......Grin !!! Sorry Bill to confuse you. Cheers Pam > Egham Hythe is the section of the highway along the river (Thames) between > Staines and Egham on the Surrey side of the river. The parish church is St > Paul, Egham Hythe, but the parish of St Paul was carved out of Egham > parish (St John the Baptist Egham) only around 1930, and there was no > church (nor a chapel of ease) there earlier. (The only St Mary near Egham > is the ancient parish church of St Mary, Thorpe, not far away.) Egham is > in Surrey, but counted in the 19th century for registration purposes as > being in neighbouring Berkshire; I don't know about the Berkshire > connection pre-1837. > > Wheatley is in Hampshire, the other side of Aldershot from the Egham > direction. I can't suggest anything about your William COX. > > Geoff > > Geoffrey Chew > g.chew@rhul.ac.uk > > ________________________________ > > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Bill Dalton > > I am trying to work through some apparent problems with a family tree > that I have found that has information in it that pertains to my line. > The person in the tree that I am interested in is one Mary Goldhawk. She > is supposedly baptized Oct. 19, 1692 "in Egham." I have seen it stated > that she was born in "Eghamhithe, near Staines, England." Mary > supposedly had a brother, Abraham, who was born Dec. 18, 1735, in London. > > Mary reportedly married one William Cox, in 1743 in "Eghamhith, > Berkshire, England" This same William Cox was supposedly born in > "Wheatley Parish, County of Southhampton, England" in 1718. Another > source places the birth at being Oct. 16, 1711, in "Eghamhith, > Berkshire, England." {He certainly seems to have moved about a good bit.} > > I have found that there is a Egham located near Staines. I went to > Google and did a search (which I can not now replicate) and found that > there is a St. Mary? Church near some place in the Egham, Surrey area > that is spelled something like Heith. > > Another bit of information from what I have found is that the > grandparents of Mary Goldhawk were John and Sarah Allery who lived near > London. > > Apparently this William Cox that Mary married was the son of a rather > successful merchant in London, involved with shipping and trade with > Norway. From the document I have found is "William Cox was the son of > John Cox and his wife, Mary Banes Cox, and was born in Essex, England in > 1717 or 1718. His mother's family name was Banes. John Cox was a man > of considerable wealth, owned several mills, and was engaged in the > shipping business, --sending vessels to Norway for deal boards. His son > William accompanied him on one of his voyages and brought home a > handsome Norwegian pony." > > Can anyone shed some light on this mess? > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Richard M Brown" <brownrichardm@yahoo.co.uk> >I rather liked the December / Christmas wish theme which is running on the >Lincolnshire Roots board. >...........my real wish relate to Reigate in >Surrey. Those who have been subscribed on this Surrey List for a while will remember that we used to have a monthly theme (similar to Lincsgen) - all still in the List Archives. The themes were always based on those requested by Listers themselves. So if there is enthusiasm to resume these, please let me know *off list* along with your suggestions for future themes. Richard's suggestion for December seems good, so by all means let's have that as our December challenge - find the elusive Surrey ancestor as a 'gift' to help fellow Listers. For the rest of this month the 'wish' theme could bring some very interesting postings. Lurking hoping that someone else will post something about one's ancestors is probably the least likely way to find connections or help. Proactively posting something of interest can often pay dividends. We've just seen evidence of this where someone posted about Egham and immediately there has been a shower of messages in response. We all tend to be very busy at this time of year but there's always a little time to be squeezed for research! Ann Surrey Admin

Hi Bill, The oldest Church in Egham is St Mary's which isn't too far from Staines (2.5 miles to be exact) - never heard of the Hithe/Heith bit though. Also a lot of my Egham families scooted over the Berkshire border, which is not far.....Wokingham mainly. It may have been subject to border changes over the years as well. I googled Egham Hythe St Pauls Egham Hythe. The church is located on the corner between St Paul's Road and Thorpe Road, in the Hythe area of Egham, Surrey, not far from Staines town centre. ... Staines of course is a Registration district The Parish records may be available through the LDS Library catalogue or through the Surrey repository. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1W1GPEA_en&q=Eghamhithe&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB&aq=f&oq= church link above. Cheers Pam from Adelaide australia > Hi > > I am trying to work through some apparent problems with a family tree > that I have found that has information in it that pertains to my line. > The person in the tree that I am interested in is one Mary Goldhawk. She > is supposedly baptized Oct. 19, 1692 "in Egham." I have seen it stated > that she was born in "Eghamhithe, near Staines, England." Mary > supposedly had a brother, Abraham, who was born Dec. 18, 1735, in London. > > Mary reportedly married one William Cox, in 1743 in "Eghamhith, > Berkshire, England" This same William Cox was supposedly born in > "Wheatley Parish, County of Southhampton, England" in 1718. Another > source places the birth at being Oct. 16, 1711, in "Eghamhith, > Berkshire, England." {He certainly seems to have moved about a good bit.} > > I have found that there is a Egham located near Staines. I went to > Google and did a search (which I can not now replicate) and found that > there is a St. Mary? Church near some place in the Egham, Surrey area > that is spelled something like Heith. > > Another bit of information from what I have found is that the > grandparents of Mary Goldhawk were John and Sarah Allery who lived near > London. > > Apparently this William Cox that Mary married was the son of a rather > successful merchant in London, involved with shipping and trade with > Norway. From the document I have found is "William Cox was the son of > John Cox and his wife, Mary Banes Cox, and was born in Essex, England in > 1717 or 1718. His mother's family name was Banes. John Cox was a man > of considerable wealth, owned several mills, and was engaged in the > shipping business, --sending vessels to Norway for deal boards. His son > William accompanied him on one of his voyages and brought home a > handsome Norwegian pony." > > Can anyone shed some light on this mess? > > Thanks > Bill Dalton > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How about St Mary, Staines, which is situated across the river from Egham Hythe? Jill Staines, Middlesex <The only St Mary near Egham is the ancient parish church of St Mary, Thorpe, not far away.> <I have found that there is a Egham located near Staines. I went to Google and did a search (which I can not now replicate) and found that there is a St. Mary? Church near some place in the Egham, Surrey area that is spelled something like Heith.>

Hello Bill, I don't know what research you have already done, but I see there are GOLDHAWK wills at the National Archives, e.g. Will of John Goldhawk, Waterman of Egham, Surrey, 25 November 1735 If, as you say, John COX was a man of considerable wealth, then I'd expect to be able to find out more about him. Again, his will might be very enlightening. Here are just two possibilities of many at the National Archives: Will of John Cox, Merchant of Thames Street, City of London, 15 May 1750 Will of John Cox, Merchant of London, 25 August 1762 Hope this helps, Chris Townsend ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dalton" <rnbill@centurytel.net> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: [SRY] Eghamhithe > Hi > > I am trying to work through some apparent problems with a family tree > that I have found that has information in it that pertains to my line. > The person in the tree that I am interested in is one Mary Goldhawk. She > is supposedly baptized Oct. 19, 1692 "in Egham." I have seen it stated > that she was born in "Eghamhithe, near Staines, England." Mary > supposedly had a brother, Abraham, who was born Dec. 18, 1735, in London. > > Mary reportedly married one William Cox, in 1743 in "Eghamhith, > Berkshire, England" This same William Cox was supposedly born in > "Wheatley Parish, County of Southhampton, England" in 1718. Another > source places the birth at being Oct. 16, 1711, in "Eghamhith, > Berkshire, England." {He certainly seems to have moved about a good bit.} > > I have found that there is a Egham located near Staines. I went to > Google and did a search (which I can not now replicate) and found that > there is a St. Mary? Church near some place in the Egham, Surrey area > that is spelled something like Heith. > > Another bit of information from what I have found is that the > grandparents of Mary Goldhawk were John and Sarah Allery who lived near > London. > > Apparently this William Cox that Mary married was the son of a rather > successful merchant in London, involved with shipping and trade with > Norway. From the document I have found is "William Cox was the son of > John Cox and his wife, Mary Banes Cox, and was born in Essex, England in > 1717 or 1718. His mother's family name was Banes. John Cox was a man > of considerable wealth, owned several mills, and was engaged in the > shipping business, --sending vessels to Norway for deal boards. His son > William accompanied him on one of his voyages and brought home a > handsome Norwegian pony." > > Can anyone shed some light on this mess? > > Thanks > Bill Dalton

Hello Richard, I'd apply for one or two more certificates, to give you more recent names and addresses to pursue. As there was a Brickmaking business, did Cyril Whittington BROWN leave a will? Best wishes, Chris Townsend Richard wrote [snipped] My Christmas wish is to meet the family or descendants of Cyril Whittington BROWN Cyril Whittington BROWN (27 Mar 1880 - 14 Apr 1922 in Redhill) 18 Jun 1907 Married May NIGHTINGALE (29 May 1880 - 5 Mar 1940 in Reigate) Reigate I would so dearly love to meet someone, and find out more about their Brickmaking business. I have quite a lot of information - I met the grandson of the Brickyard manager and he has helped with a good deal of information, but there are still so many questions left unanswered. Why did the business decline? Do any of the business records survive? (none at Woking or Redhill) They certainly made lots of bricks - enough for a HUGE Brickwall :-)) Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K.

From: "Bill Dalton" <rnbill@centurytel.net> > Mary reportedly married one William Cox, in 1743 in "Eghamhith, > Berkshire, England" This same William Cox was supposedly born in > "Wheatley Parish, County of Southhampton, England" in 1718. Unless I'm misunderstanding you Bill there seems to be two completely different pieces of evidence as to the origin of William Cox? Wheatley, Hampshire (old County name Southampton) was a very small hamlet in north east Hampshire. In the eighteenth century it was not a parish in its own right. Obviously not all baptisms are in the IGI but there is none that fits exactly. There are only two in the area that might be this chap in Hampshire. One in Petersfield 1718 which is a patron submission and so would need checking; the other in Basingstoke with is extracted from the parish register so hopefully fairly reliable. Petersfield is nearer to Wheatley and there were numerous mills in the area. The Petersfield child may have been the son of Edward Cox and Ann Randal who married in Clanfield 1712. The Basingstoke child is son of Thomas and Mary (nee Brown) whose marriage appears to have been in Basingstoke in 1702. To be honest though, a baptism somewhere a little closer to Wheatley, such as Bentley, Binsted or Alton, would be more convincing. BUT as you have a document (below) pointing to the family being from Essex, it seems doubtful they were from a Hampshire hamlet, and the overseas trade with Norway fits much more closely with a base in Essex on the east coast of England. >Another source places the birth at being Oct. 16, 1711, in "Eghamhith, > Berkshire, England." {He certainly seems to have moved about a good bit.} Egham is right on the county boundary with Berkshire so this is understandable even though Egham has always been in Surrey. [ Later on Egham was included in Windsor Berks Registration District but RDs are not county specific.] Egham and Windsor are, of course, both on the Thames but rather a long way upstream from Essex. Neither would be a place for heavy goods trade with the continent. > > I have found that there is a Egham located near Staines. Yes, this is the one. No other in England to the best of my knowledge. I went to > Google and did a search (which I can not now replicate) and found that > there is a St. Mary? Church near some place in the Egham, Surrey area > that is spelled something like Heith. St Mary's Thorpe as suggested by Geoff. > > Another bit of information from what I have found is that the > grandparents of Mary Goldhawk were John and Sarah Allery who lived near > London. > > Apparently this William Cox that Mary married was the son of a rather > successful merchant in London, involved with shipping and trade with > Norway. From the document I have found is "William Cox was the son of > John Cox and his wife, Mary Banes Cox, and was born in Essex, England in > 1717 or 1718. His mother's family name was Banes. John Cox was a man > of considerable wealth, owned several mills, and was engaged in the > shipping business, --sending vessels to Norway for deal boards. His son > William accompanied him on one of his voyages and brought home a > handsome Norwegian pony." > > Can anyone shed some light on this mess? It seems there is documentary evidence of the family being from Essex - so what is persuading you towards the family being from Hamphire. If the William Cox who married in Egham really was born in Wheatley Hants, then everything seems to suggest he is a different person from the one born in Essex - unless I'm missing something? Enquires to both the Rootsweb County Lists for Hampshire and Essex Lists might help confirm or disprove. I hope this helps a little. Ann

Hi there, I rather liked the December / Christmas wish theme which is running on the Lincolnshire Roots board.  Unfortunately, my real wish does not relate to Lincolnshire.  However, it most certainly does relate to Reigate in Surrey. My Christmas wish is to meet the family or descendants of Cyril Whittington BROWN Cyril Whittington BROWN  (27 Mar 1880 - 14 Apr 1922 in Redhill)       18 Jun 1907  Married May NIGHTINGALE   (29 May 1880 - 5 Mar 1940 in Reigate) Reigate   Children  Eric Cyril and Jessie L Jessie L BROWN  (Dec ¼ 1913 - ??)   Eric Cyril BROWN  (Jun 1908 - ??)  I canot trace his death he was reistered for war service, but no war record at all in any of the services.  Eric has just "vanished." His spouse lived at 22 Smoke Lane, Reigate up to the 1950's      10 Sep 1934    Married Barbara Florence DAY  (abt 1912 - ??)     Children         Jennifer BROWN  (Dec ¼ 1935 - ??)        Susan Joan BROWN (2 Feb 1940 - ??) I would so dearly love to meet someone, and find out more about their Brickmaking business.  I have quite a lot of information - I met the grandson of the Brickyard manager and he has helped with a good deal of information, but there are still so many questions left unanswered.  Why did the business decline?  Do any of the business records survive? (none at Woking or Redhill) They certainly made lots of bricks - enough for a HUGE Brickwall :-))  Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K.

Egham Hythe is the section of the highway along the river (Thames) between Staines and Egham on the Surrey side of the river. The parish church is St Paul, Egham Hythe, but the parish of St Paul was carved out of Egham parish (St John the Baptist Egham) only around 1930, and there was no church (nor a chapel of ease) there earlier. (The only St Mary near Egham is the ancient parish church of St Mary, Thorpe, not far away.) Egham is in Surrey, but counted in the 19th century for registration purposes as being in neighbouring Berkshire; I don't know about the Berkshire connection pre-1837. Wheatley is in Hampshire, the other side of Aldershot from the Egham direction. I can't suggest anything about your William COX. Geoff Geoffrey Chew g.chew@rhul.ac.uk ________________________________ From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Bill Dalton I am trying to work through some apparent problems with a family tree that I have found that has information in it that pertains to my line. The person in the tree that I am interested in is one Mary Goldhawk. She is supposedly baptized Oct. 19, 1692 "in Egham." I have seen it stated that she was born in "Eghamhithe, near Staines, England." Mary supposedly had a brother, Abraham, who was born Dec. 18, 1735, in London. Mary reportedly married one William Cox, in 1743 in "Eghamhith, Berkshire, England" This same William Cox was supposedly born in "Wheatley Parish, County of Southhampton, England" in 1718. Another source places the birth at being Oct. 16, 1711, in "Eghamhith, Berkshire, England." {He certainly seems to have moved about a good bit.} I have found that there is a Egham located near Staines. I went to Google and did a search (which I can not now replicate) and found that there is a St. Mary? Church near some place in the Egham, Surrey area that is spelled something like Heith. Another bit of information from what I have found is that the grandparents of Mary Goldhawk were John and Sarah Allery who lived near London. Apparently this William Cox that Mary married was the son of a rather successful merchant in London, involved with shipping and trade with Norway. From the document I have found is "William Cox was the son of John Cox and his wife, Mary Banes Cox, and was born in Essex, England in 1717 or 1718. His mother's family name was Banes. John Cox was a man of considerable wealth, owned several mills, and was engaged in the shipping business, --sending vessels to Norway for deal boards. His son William accompanied him on one of his voyages and brought home a handsome Norwegian pony." Can anyone shed some light on this mess?

Thankyou Caroline and Pam for your valuable advice on accessing the Egham Parish records. This is very much appreciated--and so fast! Cheers Wendy