Hello Evelyn, Have you seen these two death registrations?? Alice D Stonard age 72yrs 1949 December Qtr Vol 2a Page 115. Cornelius Stonard age 82yrs 1962 June Qtr Vol 2b Page 497 Goole. Both registration districts are in the West Riding of Yorkshire. Ray Hudson Perth, Western Australia. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1774 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Don, I'll keep all that on file, but so far I haven't found any LUCKs in my tree (hah - or much luck with this branch either!) - the HOLLAND/FARMER connection came through two SMALL marriages. The early FARMERs were all Bermondsey ropemakers and branches continued living south of the Thames, apart from one FARMER widow who remarried and went north to Yorkshire with her son. Good luck with regaining your lost information. Regards, Anne south-east South Australia Donald Fraser wrote: > Hello Anne, > I saw your EM today and thought that I would give > you a quick reply to your query. My name is Don FRASER and I have been > trying to make sense of my family tree for many years now without much luck. > One of my earliest ancestors is a William LUCK circ 1640 possibly from Kent. > He had 4 children Thomas. William, Anne Edmund. There were many more > descendants, but I will skip these and go on to Anne LUCK b 1666 Albury > Surrey, who married a John HOLLAND 11 Nov. 1696 at Merrow Surrey > They had children:- > Elizabeth b 1698 Shipley, Sussex > Jane b 1701 Shipley. > Mary b.1703 Shipley > Phillip b 1705 Shipley > Ann b 1708 Shipley > John b 1710 Shipley > My great Grand Mother was a Sarah Ann Marshall b. Portsea Portsmouth 1855 > and married a William FARMER b 1852 at Hilsea , Portsmouth I am descended > from this line. I have many more names of HOLLAND etc, but unfortunately I > was working away on my machine a few weeks ago when it received a pretty > powerful surge during a Thunder Storm. My computer was burnt out, but I was > lucky enough to have most things 'backed up' so I am not yet back to normal. > If you think that we may have something in common, please give me a shout. I > am quite happy to share everything that I might have, if it is of any > interest to you. In the meantime I will work on getting my files back in > order. > > > Good hunting Don FRASER. > > Incidentally, what part of Aus. are you from ?

Hello Anne Ann Farmer was a Londoner, born @1801. William Holland, along with other members of his family, moved to London before 1829 and stayed, so his children would also be Londoners. Dorri ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:48:38 +1030 > From: anne.chambers@bigpond.com > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SRY] FARMER, HOLLAND, MOORE, DAY: Bermondsey & Deptford > > Thanks for your response Dorri, but no bells ringing, alas. All of mine were Londoners. > > Anne > > Dorri Roughley wrote: >> >> hello Anne, >> >> Oh this has made me wake up. >> >> This is not Surrey based, but I have a Holland that may have married a Farmer. >> >> William Holland, b. 1796, Burford Oxfordshire married an Ann, my best guess is that her maiden name was Farmer and they married in 1829. They lived in the Marylebone area, he appears on the census returns as a Grocer there. >> >> Ring any bells? >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Dorri >> _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/

Hello Liz Try looking at least 10 years after you think they were married. Like you I searched for years and then one day by mistake I didn't fill in the date on the Free BDM form and up they popped 9 years after the birth of my G Grandmother. I don't know why, but like today perhaps they were saving up for a posh wedding but as they married 10 miles from their home perhaps there was some other reason. Happy hunting Sheila NSW > After 10 years of searching I am still looking to find the marriage of my > grand parents. He was Charles Taylor b. 1872 in Horley. She was Ellen > Plested b.1876 in Shabbington Bucks. There is no entry in the GRO. The > marriage would have been about 1899/1900. Their first child, William, was > born Jan 1901. I have searched Shabbington, Horley, Charlwood & Reigate > PRs. > Perhaps if anyone has access to other surrounding PRs you could keep an > eye > out for my Charles & Ellen. Many thanks and Best Wishes for a Happy & > Peaceful Christmas & New Year. > > Liz

hello Anne, Oh this has made me wake up. This is not Surrey based, but I have a Holland that may have married a Farmer. William Holland, b. 1796, Burford Oxfordshire married an Ann, my best guess is that her maiden name was Farmer and they married in 1829. They lived in the Marylebone area, he appears on the census returns as a Grocer there. Ring any bells? Thank you, Dorri > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:12:04 +1030 > From: anne.chambers@bigpond.com > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SRY] FARMER, HOLLAND, MOORE, DAY: Bermondsey & Deptford > > The best present I could get would be contact with descendants of Ethel Annie FARMER (b 26 Jan 1881 in > Deptford), who married her second cousin, Frederick Hamilton HOLLAND (b 6 June 1881 in Rotherhithe) , on 21 _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

Could you perhaps scan in the parts you're having trouble with, and let us try to help? Jane again ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dalton" <rnbill@centurytel.net> To: <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: [SRY] Reading an old will > Thanks to Chris I now have one of the wills that I am interested in but > am having a bit of a problem reading some of the script. I used to have > the URL for a site that had excellent examples of the old script used in > the 1600-1700's but it doesn't' work now. Is there anyone out there > that knows of such a site? > > Bill Dalton > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, I think the National Archives has a tutorial for that, and also one for the Latin terms, but I don't remember exactly how to get to it on their site. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dalton" <rnbill@centurytel.net> To: <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: [SRY] Reading an old will > Thanks to Chris I now have one of the wills that I am interested in but > am having a bit of a problem reading some of the script. I used to have > the URL for a site that had excellent examples of the old script used in > the 1600-1700's but it doesn't' work now. Is there anyone out there > that knows of such a site? > > Bill Dalton > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sending them now Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [SRY] Gift wrapped George YOEL(L) & Elizabeth PREIL please :-) > Yes Robin > > And many more variations besides :-) > > Such as YOLE, YEOWELL, YOWELL etc etc > > Thanks for the thought though > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Have you thought of YUILL or EWELL? > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Anne, I saw your EM today and thought that I would give you a quick reply to your query. My name is Don FRASER and I have been trying to make sense of my family tree for many years now without much luck. One of my earliest ancestors is a William LUCK circ 1640 possibly from Kent. He had 4 children Thomas. William, Anne Edmund. There were many more descendants, but I will skip these and go on to Anne LUCK b 1666 Albury Surrey, who married a John HOLLAND 11 Nov. 1696 at Merrow Surrey They had children:- Elizabeth b 1698 Shipley, Sussex Jane b 1701 Shipley. Mary b.1703 Shipley Phillip b 1705 Shipley Ann b 1708 Shipley John b 1710 Shipley My great Grand Mother was a Sarah Ann Marshall b. Portsea Portsmouth 1855 and married a William FARMER b 1852 at Hilsea , Portsmouth I am descended from this line. I have many more names of HOLLAND etc, but unfortunately I was working away on my machine a few weeks ago when it received a pretty powerful surge during a Thunder Storm. My computer was burnt out, but I was lucky enough to have most things 'backed up' so I am not yet back to normal. If you think that we may have something in common, please give me a shout. I am quite happy to share everything that I might have, if it is of any interest to you. In the meantime I will work on getting my files back in order. Good hunting Don FRASER. Incidentally, what part of Aus. are you from ?

Hi Bob. The 1811 Croydon census of heads of household may also be obtained from East Surrey Family History Society. _East Surrey FHS - Home Page_ (http://www.eastsurreyfhs.org.uk/index.htm) It is M3 in their catalogue and is a transcript in microfiche format. Regards, Dave. In a message dated 06/12/2009 08:38:40 GMT Standard Time, ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com writes: From: "Bob" <efr54321@gmail.com> > My hopes were raised by your reference to an 1811 Census for Croydon. > Have > you located a piece of the actual Census or are you referring to the 1811 > Trade Directory? The 1811 census householders' schedule is at Croydon Local Studies Library who will probably be very helpful if you wanted to email them. RA5 gives details of early Surrey censuses availability and locations: http://www.wsfhs.org/ResearchAids.htm As indicated, some of the early Surrey censuses - but not Croydon - have already been published in the WSFHS Members' journal, and others will probably be included intermittently in the future. Ann *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Chris I now have one of the wills that I am interested in but am having a bit of a problem reading some of the script. I used to have the URL for a site that had excellent examples of the old script used in the 1600-1700's but it doesn't' work now. Is there anyone out there that knows of such a site? Bill Dalton

Hi My one Christmas wish would be connect to members of my maternal grandmother's family. According to my records my great grandparents Temperance Jane (Nottle) and James Frederick Kirrage had a total 7 children (5 daughters and 2 sons) born between 1880 and 1895 in the Camberwell and Romford area of Surrey. I am looking for descendents of Kate Marie who married a Walter J.B. Edwards in 1911, Florence Melford an unknown Heath in 1912, Frederick Leonard who married Amy Martha Mitchell in1910 and John Edward who married Kate Mary Edwards in 1912. Lilian Lymannever married and I was well acquainted with their youngest daughter Edith Lyman Harrison who came to Canada in the mid 1940's. My grandmother Blanche Eugenie (their eldest daughter) came to Canada about 1906, married a William Lisney in 1908 and died in January 1913. I am hoping there is someone out there who could come up with some leads for me. Have a great Christman Bobbie

Hi Everyone Just thought I would add my Surrey wish for this Christmas. My wish is to be able to find what happened to my Great Uncle Cornelius STONARD (STONNARD), who, in 1906, married Alice Delemere Smith in Dewsbury, Yorkshire. Did they come back to Pirbright, where they both lived before their marriage, or whatever happened to them. I know this partly is on the Yorkshire List, but as they both lived and worked in Pirbright, I thought I might be able to find something out. They both seem to have disappeared into thin air after their marriage. Thanks for reading this and I wish everyone on the Surrey List a Very Happy and Safe Christmas and New Year. Best wishes Yvonne Hempston (nee Stonard) Melbourne, Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Sargeant To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: [SRY] ADMIN December - was My Christmas Wish

The best present I could get would be contact with descendants of Ethel Annie FARMER (b 26 Jan 1881 in Deptford), who married her second cousin, Frederick Hamilton HOLLAND (b 6 June 1881 in Rotherhithe) , on 21 August 1911 at St Peter, Deptford. Frederick was a schoolmaster (elementary), was gazetted temp 2nd Lt in the Army Ordnance Dept in 1917 and, if the medal card for Frederick H Holland RGA is his, survived the War. Possible children are Ronald F Holland b 1913, Derek H Holland b 1921 and Kenneth A B Holland b 1922 all registered in Lewisham with mother's surname Farmer. Any HOLLAND descendants might just know what happened to Ethel's grandfather! Ethel Annie was the granddaughter of my missing great-great uncle, Amos Nathaniel FARMER, who disappeared without trace after his second marriage (to Elizabeth MOORE)at St Dunstan's West in 1855, leaving his son Amos Alfred FARMER (by his first wife, Eliza DAY, who died in childbirth in 1853) to be brought up by his parents, Edward Thomas & Susannah FARMER in Bermondsey. I have all the certificates and have found Amos Alfred in all relevant censuses. Amos Alfred FARMER married his first cousin Annie Maria FARMER in Bermondsey 1880 and AFAIK, they had only the one child, Ethel Annie. (There may, of course, have been others who were born and died between censuses.) Amos Nathaniel FARMER (who was enumerated as Nathaniel at school in 1841) has appeared in no census since 1851. I haven't found him on any passenger list or any overseas census or BMD register either in the UK or elsewhere. Amos Alfred's marriage certificate shows his father as 'Amos Nathaniel Farmer Gentleman' (he was a corn chandler on his first marriage certificate and Amos Alfred's birth certificate and a hay agent on his second marriage certificate). Delusions of grandeur must run in the family as Ethel Annie's certificate shows Amos Alfred as Gentleman too - he was a mercantile clerk according to the 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses. As more and more genealogical databases from all over the world become available online, I live in hope that Amos Nathaniel will eventually be found. I just hope I'm still around! Anne South Australia

Hi, Just seen the query - also try Google books - the 1811 Census (along with other other Croydon material) has been printed - certainly some of which has surfaced on Google. There is also at Croydon local studies a handwritten copy of settlement index (which I found invaluable some years ago) the original had gone missing at the time Best Regards Richard H -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob" <efr54321@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:22 PM To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SRY] 1811 Census Croydon - was My brick wall - Francis & MaryAnn POTTER of Croydon > Manythanks for that information, Ann. You are always so helpful. > > Bob > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Ann Sargeant > <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com>wrote: > >> From: "Bob" <efr54321@gmail.com> >> > My hopes were raised by your reference to an 1811 Census for Croydon. >> > Have >> > you located a piece of the actual Census or are you referring to the >> > 1811 >> > Trade Directory? >> >> The 1811 census householders' schedule is at Croydon Local Studies >> Library >> who will probably be very helpful if you wanted to email them. >> >> RA5 gives details of early Surrey censuses >> availability and locations: http://www.wsfhs.org/ResearchAids.htm >> As indicated, some of the early Surrey censuses - but not Croydon - have >> already been published in the WSFHS Members' journal, and others will >> probably be included intermittently in the future. >> >> Ann >> > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have you thought of YUILL or EWELL?

Hi, This is lightly off topic but I was not sure where else to ask. I am looking for a method to convert all my microfiche I've collected over the years (95% of them Surry PR's) to digital format that I can then view on my PC (so either pdf or jpg format would be ideal). I've looked at digital scanners but they are very, very expensive. I've tried using my conventional scanner (Canon MP970) but with no luck. Has anybody else successfully managed to do this please ? Many thanks Chris

To get good results you need to scan at least 1000 dpi, 2400 dpi will do the job much better Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wake" <chris.eintracht@bigpond.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [SRY] Slightly O/T : Xmas Wish : Scanning/Digitizing Microfiche > Hi, > > This is lightly off topic but I was not sure where else to ask. I am > looking for a method to convert all my microfiche I've collected over the > years (95% of them Surry PR's) to digital format that I can then view on > my > PC (so either pdf or jpg format would be ideal). I've looked at digital > scanners but they are very, very expensive. I've tried using my > conventional > scanner (Canon MP970) but with no luck. Has anybody else successfully > managed to do this please ? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Chris > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes Robin And many more variations besides :-) Such as YOLE, YEOWELL, YOWELL etc etc Thanks for the thought though Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Have you thought of YUILL or EWELL?

Hi Yvonne A possible for Cornelius (I don't see another) Name: Cornelius Stonard Death Registration Month/Year: Q2-Apr-May-Jun 1962 Age at death (estimated): 82 Registration district: Goole Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2b Page: 497 And for Alice? Name: Alice D Stonard Death Registration Month/Year: Q4-Oct-Nov-Dec 1949 Age at death (estimated): 72 Registration district: Howden Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 2a Page: 115 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Everyone > > Just thought I would add my Surrey wish for this Christmas. My wish is to > be able to find what happened to my Great Uncle Cornelius STONARD > (STONNARD), who, in 1906, married Alice Delemere Smith in Dewsbury, > Yorkshire. Did they come back to Pirbright, where they both lived before > their marriage, or whatever happened to them. I know this partly is on > the Yorkshire List, but as they both lived and worked in Pirbright, I > thought I might be able to find something out. They both seem to have > disappeared into thin air after their marriage. > > Thanks for reading this and I wish everyone on the Surrey List a Very > Happy and Safe Christmas and New Year. > > Best wishes > Yvonne Hempston (nee Stonard) > Melbourne, Aust.