My Christmas wish to find Joseph bn 1845, James bn 1849, Thomas Frederick bn 1853. - NEAL brothers all born in Lambeth. 1851 census -James, Joseph and Thomas living at 35 Gibralter Rd, Southwark 1861 census James and Thomas living at 2 Manor Place,Walworth. Timothy NEAL (half brother) bn 1847 on all census up to 1901 at various addresses in London. Another brother George bn 1843 has added an E to NEAL and arrived in New Zealand in 1868. Merry Christmas Judith

Hi Everyone, A big thank you for your quick replies to my enquiry and it appears the house was indeed Sommersbury - just shows how family information becomes distorted over the years. Thanks again Janet

Hi Janet A quick perusal of the British history online lists the manors of Ewhurst - and summerfield is not there, however as others have noted Somersbury is....... http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=42937&strquery=manors%20+%20ewhurst#s3 perhaps typing in "Somersbury manor" on google earth might afford a picture that I cannot seem to find online and you may be able to compare with the photo. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi everyone, > > I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a > carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his > workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo > is written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about > that house via google. > > Can anyone tell me if it still exists, or where it was. > > TIA > > Janet, Auckland, New Zealand

I think you have the wrong Robin. I am Robin Ellis in Western Australia. Merry Xmas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Veronica I Barr" <mordensurrey@gmail.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com>; "'Robin Morris'" <rm@enningsmail.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: [SRY] ARTHUR MORRIS > Hi Robin > > Are you related to the above named - son of William MORRIS of IOT, Kent > born > in 1870's and moved to London some time turn of the century. His wife and > children eventually moved to Morden, Surrey? > > Regards, > Veronica > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Morris > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:59 AM > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SRY] SUMMERFIELD, EWHURST > > Hi Janet, > > Could it be Summerfold House, which lies just to the North of Ewhurst, on > the edge of Hurt Wood, close to Ewhurst windmill. There is also a > Winterfold House. > > Good luck. > > Robin Morris. > Bookham. > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ji.kelsey@xtra.co.nz > Sent: 15 December 2009 08:58 > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SRY] SUMMERFIELD, EWHURST > > Hi everyone, > > I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a > carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his > workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo > is > written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about that > house via google. > > Can anyone tell me if it still exists, or where it was. > > TIA > > Janet, Auckland, New Zealand > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thanks Trevena & Fionnghal My apologies to list admin this is a little off topic > Hi there is an alternative, if you have access to a library as a great > many > of them have free access to Ancestry and you could look it up there, > Trevena > Thanks to both recent posters for their information Sadly living in rural South Africa option two does not exist and option one is way beyond the means of my pocket , Options 3, 4, 5 & 6 do however exist Option 3 use the free sites FBMD, FReg and FCen and when I finish work at the end of next year guess what I will be offering to do. Option 4 Find a family member who has the ability to assist Option 5 Ask the list for information only ?????no wait is that possibly a problem too ???? Option 6 Give up Why stay on the list ?........ welll I am if nothing optimistic that one day a family member will appear and that I'm able to recognise them, ...............its friendly, FREE, accessible and when I get a social history problem in the Surrey area I know I will get help Options 3 for me, until I find option 4 ..........adding SMITH and POWELL in Richmond to the CLARK[E] family Thank-you list admin and list for all the help I have received on various topics

Hi everyone, I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo is written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about that house via google. Can anyone tell me if it still exists, or where it was. TIA Janet, Auckland, New Zealand

I suspect that the parents are James Quinton and Charlotte Bolton married at St Martin in the Fields on 15 Feb 1817, with children, James, Mary, William and Edmund Frederick, and possibly Eliza baptised in Clewer in 1817. (See the IGI) Judi Message: 9 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:15:22 -0500 From: Mick <mickg01@verizon.net> Subject: [SRY] Xmas wish parents of James QUINTON Baptized St Saviour Southwark 1826 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4B27A80A.8000909@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have this baptismal record: When Baptised: 1926 Dec 31. Child's Name: James Son of Born 14 Jany 1819. Parent's Names:James & Charlotte Quinton. Abode: Lemon St. Quality, Trade or Profession: Labourer. By whom ceremony was performed: J Horton. The son James put on 2 Censuses (1851, 1861) that he was Born at Kew? I have not been able to Identify the Marriage of the parents or their Deaths (Let alone the Births) It would be great to find their Marriage and/or one or both Births. Not knowing Charlotte's Maiden name, without the Marriage of course Her Birth is most Unlikely.

What's the time frame ? Anne South Australia ji.kelsey@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo is written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about that house via google. > > Can anyone tell me if it still exists, or where it was. > > TIA > > Janet, Auckland, New Zealand

Image sent - he was indexed as CLARK Anne South Australia Maisie White wrote: > My xmas wish is a repeat from earlier this year that had no replies > > Sometime ago a very kind lister sent me this information they had found on > the 1841 census > > Samuel 55 Plumber > Mary 51 > Samuel 20 App Plumber > James 11 Living at Pothin Cott Kewfoot Lane > Richmond > > At the same time another researcher from the list sent me an image that at a > cursory glance I took to be correct. However it does not show the same > family but rather the family of a Samuel [painter] with wife Ann and child > Samuel/James > aged 15 Living at Eton ? Court. Lambeth St Marys Newington. > > If sks could please find and send the correct image it would be really > appreciated. > > Seasons greetings to you all > Maisie >

Hi there is an alternative, if you have access to a library as a great many of them have free access to Ancestry and you could look it up there, Trevena -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fionnghal Sent: 15 December 2009 17:08 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] Xmas wish 1841 census Richmond, James CLARKE hi Maisie, it's a bit tricky actually asking for images. Both Ancestry and FMP, who provide the images, are coming down heavily on copyright infringement. It may have been a lot slacker in the past, but not now. There is no doubting their rules regarding it now. Anyone found to be passing images to a non-member can lose their membership to either organisation. I'm sure listers will help wherever possible, but may feel they don't want to go the distance of risking their memberships. le durachd Fionnghal > At the same time another researcher from the list sent me an image > that at a cursory glance I took to be correct. > If sks could please find and send the correct image it would be really > appreciated. *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi Maisie, it's a bit tricky actually asking for images. Both Ancestry and FMP, who provide the images, are coming down heavily on copyright infringement. It may have been a lot slacker in the past, but not now. There is no doubting their rules regarding it now. Anyone found to be passing images to a non-member can lose their membership to either organisation. I'm sure listers will help wherever possible, but may feel they don't want to go the distance of risking their memberships. le durachd Fionnghal > At the same time another researcher from the list sent me > an image that at a cursory glance I took to be correct. > If sks could please find and send the correct image it > would be really appreciated.

Oh yes, the Winterfold Estate. Owned by Prince Carol of Romania sometime after WW2. It was searched assiduously after the Great Train Robbery in the early 60s Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Morris Sent: 15 December 2009 12:59 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] SUMMERFIELD, EWHURST Hi Janet, Could it be Summerfold House, which lies just to the North of Ewhurst, on the edge of Hurt Wood, close to Ewhurst windmill. There is also a Winterfold House. Good luck. Robin Morris. Bookham. -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ji.kelsey@xtra.co.nz Sent: 15 December 2009 08:58 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] SUMMERFIELD, EWHURST Hi everyone, I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo is written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about that house via google. Can anyone tell me if it still exists, or where it was. TIA Janet, Auckland, New Zealand *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janet, Could it be Summerfold House, which lies just to the North of Ewhurst, on the edge of Hurt Wood, close to Ewhurst windmill. There is also a Winterfold House. Good luck. Robin Morris. Bookham. -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ji.kelsey@xtra.co.nz Sent: 15 December 2009 08:58 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] SUMMERFIELD, EWHURST Hi everyone, I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo is written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about that house via google. Can anyone tell me if it still exists, or where it was. TIA Janet, Auckland, New Zealand *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: <ji.kelsey@xtra.co.nz> > > I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a > carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his > workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo > is written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about > that house via google. Can't readily find anything on Summerfield in Ewehurst or Cranleigh which seems strange if it was extant in the past hundred or so years. Michael's suggestions are good. Just a thought though - one of the old Manors of Ewhurst was Summersbury (Somerbury). Could the name have been misquoted? There's a photo here: http://www.ewhursthistory.com/v2/about/ewhurstbriefhistory.php Ann Surrey Admin

I have this baptismal record: When Baptised: 1926 Dec 31. Child's Name: James Son of Born 14 Jany 1819. Parent's Names:James & Charlotte Quinton. Abode: Lemon St. Quality, Trade or Profession: Labourer. By whom ceremony was performed: J Horton. The son James put on 2 Censuses (1851, 1861) that he was Born at Kew? I have not been able to Identify the Marriage of the parents or their Deaths (Let alone the Births) It would be great to find their Marriage and/or one or both Births. Not knowing Charlotte's Maiden name, without the Marriage of course Her Birth is most Unlikely.

If you can not find this on a map, ask the Estate Agents. If you google Yell.com and sort for Estate Agents in Cranleigh you should find several contacts. There is no Estate Agent in Ewhurst. The alternative would be Guildford. The other source of information in this season of goodwill might be Ewhurst Parish Council - another google Good luck Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ji.kelsey@xtra.co.nz Sent: 15 December 2009 08:58 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] SUMMERFIELD, EWHURST Hi everyone, I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo is written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about that house via google. Can anyone tell me if it still exists, or where it was. TIA Janet, Auckland, New Zealand

Thanks to a kind member of the Surrey list I now have the father's name for my Great Aunt ALICE ILETT LOVETT - 1870-1947. She was illegitimte as was my Grandfather her brother WILLIAM CHARLES LOVETT 1873-1954. On her baptism entry at St Mary's Lambeth the father is entered as EDMUND ILETT and there was such a person aged 22 living in the area. ALICE ILETT LOVETT married GEORGE BEDFORD from Stukely Beds in 1889 and Alice's Daughter Alice born 1895 married a JACKSON. I would so like to follow this branch of my family but have never yet been in contact with any descendents. They all lived in Battersea/Lambeth/Kennington/Wandsworth/Nine Elms. Any contact with these names from this area and these dates would be much appreciated. Since I now have a name on a baptism record and the ILETT surname was given to Alice as a middle name [it appears again on her death certificate in 1947], is there any way that I could follow up officially on this? Would there have been a charge on EDMUND ILETT for support of the child for example. All help very gratefully received Best wishes Carole  Carole Watts carole_watts@talk21.co.uk

My xmas wish is a repeat from earlier this year that had no replies Sometime ago a very kind lister sent me this information they had found on the 1841 census Samuel 55 Plumber Mary 51 Samuel 20 App Plumber James 11 Living at Pothin Cott Kewfoot Lane Richmond At the same time another researcher from the list sent me an image that at a cursory glance I took to be correct. However it does not show the same family but rather the family of a Samuel [painter] with wife Ann and child Samuel/James aged 15 Living at Eton ? Court. Lambeth St Marys Newington. If sks could please find and send the correct image it would be really appreciated. Seasons greetings to you all Maisie

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Hi Robin Are you related to the above named - son of William MORRIS of IOT, Kent born in 1870's and moved to London some time turn of the century. His wife and children eventually moved to Morden, Surrey? Regards, Veronica -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Morris Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:59 AM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] SUMMERFIELD, EWHURST Hi Janet, Could it be Summerfold House, which lies just to the North of Ewhurst, on the edge of Hurt Wood, close to Ewhurst windmill. There is also a Winterfold House. Good luck. Robin Morris. Bookham. -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ji.kelsey@xtra.co.nz Sent: 15 December 2009 08:58 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] SUMMERFIELD, EWHURST Hi everyone, I have a photo of my husband's grandfather, ALAN KELSEY, who was a carpenter, outside a large old Elizabethan style house, with two of his workmates (Alan is holding his saw in one hand). On the back of the photo is written 'Summerfield, Ewhurst', but I can't find anything out about that house via google. Can anyone tell me if it still exists, or where it was. TIA Janet, Auckland, New Zealand *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message