This is my 1st posting for a while. I just thought I'd wish you all a Very Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous 2010. From Simon A Londoner in Liverpool

Marry Christmas List Does anyone have an interest in Mary Elizabeth Gosbey, she married John Hartley at St Mildred's Canterbury 22nd April 1823. The family had moved to Croydon by 1841. www.englishroots.com

William Hair b. about 1770. Birth & Death dates and places unknown married 2 Sep 1792 at St. Lukes, Chelsea, Warwickshire, England Elizabeth Scates b.about 1765 Where?. Burial 8 Apr 1843 Lambeth, Surrey, England. Children: John Bush Hair, chr 19 Oct 1795 Southam, Warwickshire, England. Other information unknown. Jannet Hair chr. 19 Oct 1795, Southam Warwickshire, England. d. 1844 December quarter, Lambeth District Surrey married St. Savior, Southwark, Surrey, England. Jannet married Charles Anderson 23 Mar 1818 St. Savior, Southwark, Surrey, England. Information about Charles or children is unknown. Elizabeth chr.4 Apr 1800 in Birmingham, Warwickshire married Henry John Dixon 18 Oct 1820 in St. Giles, Camberwell, Surrey. As far as I can tell they had one son Henry Edwin Dixon chr. 21 Nov 1821 in St. Mary, Lambeth, London. Edwin Hair chr. 7 Apr 1803, St. Martins, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, d. Oct quarter 1861 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England married w/1 Amelia Stanborough 5 Aug 1821 St. Giles, Camberwell, Surrey, England d. before 1826, where? w/2 Elizabeth Grant b. 6 Aug 1804, Southill, Bedfordshire, England d. Feb 1860 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Charles Hair chr. 22 Feb 1805, St. Martins, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Other information unknown. George Bush Hair, watch and clockmaker in Birmingham and London. Ruth

>From The Era ( London, England ), Sunday, February 27, 1859; Issue 1066. SUDDEN DEATH OF A TRADESMAN IN A POLICE SATION. On Wednesday afternoon an inquest was held at the St. George's Workhouse, Mint-street, Borough, by Mr. Sargeant PAYNE, to inquire as to the cause of death of Mr. William QUARTERMAN, a corn chandler, of Hounslow, and London-road, Southwark. Matthew DELL said: On Monday afternoon about half-past one, he was proceeding along Newington-causeway, when his attention was attracted to the deceased staggering towards a lamp-post. He went towards him, and then perceived blood oozing from his mouth, and he then fell backwards on the pavement. Witness an another man were about to take deceased to the nearest surgeon's, but were prevented by a policeman, who ordered them to take him ( the deceased ) to the station-house. Deceased was not dead when they got him to the police-station, but he died shortly after. The coroner summed up the whole of the evidence, and the jury returned a verdict of Natural death, but thought it was great neglect on the part of the policeman not to have taken him to the nearest surgeon's.

Good morning all Looking to make contact with anyone who Has a connection with a Henry Wills born approx 1920 died in the mid 1980's Father's name Thomas Henry Wills - information from marriage certificate - lived at sheerwater estate Woking Surrey Thanks Eileen Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Hi When I changed my email address, I omitted to rejoin the Surry list My Interests as some may remember are:- Douglas(s) Egham and Chertsey Joyce Godalming Denyer Godalming Chitty Godalming Trigg Dorking Varnden Chertsey and a few others with shorter lines Bob

Hi, I'm just after a second opinion actually as I don't feel 100% confident I've got the right link for my great(x4) grandmother Elizabeth GIBBON. Elizabeth GIBBON married James SIMMONDS (my great(x4) grandfather) on 25th June 1796 - source Surrey Marriage Index. This I'm happy is correct. She died, aged 52, in 1825 in West Horsley. My next step back is obviously to find the birth/baptism of Elizabeth GIBBON. Now, looking in the Send And Ripley PR's there is a Betty GIBBINS baptised on 19th Nov 1775 to Richard and Jane GIBBIN. I believe, but am not 100% convinced, she is mine. The reason for my doubts is because when I search the IGI for the baptism of an Elizabeth GIBBON, there are 2 other options in the Surrey area that have a better fit in terms of name matching. Those being :- Elizabeth GIBBONS bapt. 5th Mar 1774 in Egham, Surrey to Francis and Esther GIBBONS. - Better fit for Christian name and birth year (using her DOD). Eliz GIBBONS bapt. 2nd Jun 1775 in Southwark, Surrey to William and Eliz GIBBONS. - Better fit for Christian name. The main link to "my" Betty is the fact she was baptized in Send And Ripley. Would be grateful for any views of how I should proceed with this. Thinking about it, perhaps I should try and trace the ones that are not mine ? Many thanks Chris

Vince <vsummers@gmail.com> wrote:- >Ann: Mary CERONIO is entered incorrectly, in other entries, e.g. >CEROMO, CER*IES, etc., but in 1841 she is in Marylebone, St. Pancras. >She died there in September 1857, so likely -- just likely -- she is >in the same place if she is there in 1831. I'm hoping beyond hope >that there was a husband and his name was Edward, and they had left >India together. She was born English Colony according to one of the >census. Hi Vince As (with the help of kind folk here) you've now established a location in Middlesex, and would like to pursue it, this is no longer Surrey research. Marylebone and Pancras are both in Middlesex so you might consider joining the Middlesex List where there is lots of knowledge, and folk there who be able to help you further. The Middlesex List home page is here: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/Middlesex_County_UK.html Things do tend to go a little quiet on most of the Lists over the Christmas week, so if there isnt't an immediate response, don't despair but have another go a little later on. Ann Surrey List Admin

Oh, that's right! I'll give it a go... Thanks. Vince Ann said: As (with the help of kind folk here) you've now established a location in Middlesex, and would like to pursue it, this is no longer Surrey research.

Should read British Colony - sorry. > She was born English Colony...

> I remembered that the smattering of 1831 census data on FHOL was taken > over > by findmypast. > I tried ages ago to find some 1831 census data on FindMyPast with no luck. > I wondered then what they had done with it. I might have another search > today. Just because data was available on FHOL, it doesn't automatically follow that it will still be available on FMP. The data sets on FHOL were contributed either by organisations (eg FHSs) or by private individuals. When FHOL announced closure, the contributors each had a choice whether or not to transfer their data to the new provider, or not. Many did, some didn't, and some took their data elsewhere. Presumably we are talking about Surrey here? Which parish or place in Surrey 1831 is being sought? As has already been said, only a minority of pre 1841 heads of households actually survive. So there is no 'global' search possible. One needs to pinpoint a specific place in Surrey and then determine whether or not there are any surviving records. Ann Surrey List Admin

Presumably we are talking about Surrey here?  Which parish or place in Surrey 1831 is being sought? Ann: Mary CERONIO is entered incorrectly, in other entries, e.g. CEROMO, CER*IES, etc., but in 1841 she is in Marylebone, St. Pancras. She died there in September 1857, so likely -- just likely -- she is in the same place if she is there in 1831. I'm hoping beyond hope that there was a husband and his name was Edward, and they had left India together. She was born English Colony according to one of the census. Vince

David, Just a quick and HUGE thank you for those superb maps. I have been helped considerably by them. Also, the features - magnification, and ease of navigation - are very well thought out. The on-line images do, I believe, convey the vibrant colours of the originals. With Season's Greetings to one and all. Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ---------------------------- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:06:44 +1030 From: David Hale <dwhale@internode.on.net> Subject: [SRY] Map of London 1851 Updated ~ MAPCO Revised Project Hello All. Cross's London Guide 1851 displayed on the MAPCO website has been revised: Cross's London Guide 1851 http://london1851.com The thumbnail map and map images have been reworked to take full advantage of the wider format MAPCO website design. The 'click to enlarge' feature has been improved to give better access to very high quality enlarged images of each map section. This beautiful hand coloured map of London is printed on silk, and shows the site of the Great Exhibition of 1851 in Hyde Park. Of course 1851 was a significant census year, making this a map of particular interest to historians and genealogists. Please note that this map now has its own domain name, which is quite easy to remember: london1851.com However, the map is still part of the MAPCO collection and the MAPCO : Map And Plan Collection Online website. I hope that you find the enlarged images a great improvement. Enjoy this fascinating map! Look out for more MAPCO Revised maps in coming months. Seasons greetings to you all. Thank you for your support of the MAPCO project throughout the year. May you all have a safe and happy Christmas and New Year. I will be back with many more MAPCO improvements and updates in 2010. Kind regards, David Hale, Adelaide, South Australia. MAPCO : Map And Plan Collection Online http://archivemaps.com Map of London 1851 http://london1851.com Map of London 1868 http://london1868.com Map Of Dublin 1798 http://dublin1798.com

Hi Nivard When you can't remember something it very often comes to you on awakening, and that's what happened this morning. I remembered that the smattering of 1831 census data on FHOL was taken over by findmypast. I tried ages ago to find some 1831 census data on FindMyPast with no luck. I wondered then what they had done with it. I might have another search today. Thanks for the information below Nivard. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi Pam > > *Some* of the content of familyhistoryonline ended up on findmypast but at > a > hugely inflated cost but its hard to tell whats on that site > > There is a listing of pre 1841 census available here by County > http://www.essex.ac.uk/history/working-papers/MW-RW-BM.pdf > > I prefer "Pre-1841 Censuses and Population Listings in the British Isles" > by > Colin Chapman which also lists other sources with names > > Those that do survive with names can be immensely useful but luck plays a > large part in it for most people > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thanks so much David, I'm sure this is appreciated by all who use these maps - they're wonderful - and Seasons Greetings to you- regards,Jan > Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:06:44 +1030 > To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com > From: dwhale@internode.on.net > Subject: [SRY] Map of London 1851 Updated ~ MAPCO Revised Project > > Hello All. > > Cross's London Guide 1851 displayed on the MAPCO website has been revised: > > Cross's London Guide 1851 > http://london1851.com > > The thumbnail map and map images have been reworked to take full > advantage of the wider format MAPCO website design. The 'click to > enlarge' feature has been improved to give better access to very high > quality enlarged images of each map section. > > This beautiful hand coloured map of London is printed on silk, and > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar NOW! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/

My Christmas wish would be to add a few more decorations to my tree. Any one can help I would be very grateful William STRONG born abt 1745, married 1771 Judith EWINES born abt 1750 Elizabeth STRONG born 1773 George Alacott STRONG 1775 Robert STRONG born 1788/1849 married 1813 Margaret FISHER born 1788/1867 Mary Ann STRONG born 1793 John Blome STRONG 1796 Margaret Jane STRONG born 1837 Wishing all a wonderful Christmas and a Happy safe New Year. Pam...........NZ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shamere/index.

Hi again I have sent the page image off list as it seems to me you are only looking at the index not the page Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Nivard, > > When it comes to Cer*ies, I saw Mary, as indicated. Also several were > listed as Ceries. > > It made me think it was actually a name with several persons bearing > it. But now that I look at it, the * does indicate a gap, and so it > apparently is unique. So I've just added it as a possibility. > > ince

Hmm..? I don't quite understand your statement > The other (1857) had too many other entries with similar spellings, > making me think it was an actual name. Have you looked at GRO index page with the name on? there is only one name like it on the page and it looks to me like CERONIO , there is certainly what looks like a dot over the i second last letter The one you mentioned of a Mary CERVEN is clearly Mary CERVEN on the page so not sure how you could make CERONIO out of that ? Maybe I am missing something I still maintain the 1857 entry is most likely yours, she had a connection to Pancras as she lived there in 1841, in 1851 could she be staying at Herne Bay for her health perhaps but still have a house in Pancras Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Good Day, Nivard... > > You asked, > > "You say you checked the other reference? do you mean you looked at > the GRO index page for the death in 1857? and you don't think its > yours?" > > After I saw how you used the asterisk, I played some more with the > site and think this is the most likely: > > Deaths Jun 1859 > Surname Given Name District Volume Page > CERVEN Mary Greenwich 1d 357

Hello All. Cross's London Guide 1851 displayed on the MAPCO website has been revised: Cross's London Guide 1851 http://london1851.com The thumbnail map and map images have been reworked to take full advantage of the wider format MAPCO website design. The 'click to enlarge' feature has been improved to give better access to very high quality enlarged images of each map section. This beautiful hand coloured map of London is printed on silk, and shows the site of the Great Exhibition of 1851 in Hyde Park. Of course 1851 was a significant census year, making this a map of particular interest to historians and genealogists. Please note that this map now has its own domain name, which is quite easy to remember: london1851.com However, the map is still part of the MAPCO collection and the MAPCO : Map And Plan Collection Online website. I hope that you find the enlarged images a great improvement. Enjoy this fascinating map! Look out for more MAPCO Revised maps in coming months. Seasons greetings to you all. Thank you for your support of the MAPCO project throughout the year. May you all have a safe and happy Christmas and New Year. I will be back with many more MAPCO improvements and updates in 2010. Kind regards, David Hale, Adelaide, South Australia. MAPCO : Map And Plan Collection Online http://archivemaps.com Map of London 1851 http://london1851.com Map of London 1868 http://london1868.com Map Of Dublin 1798 http://dublin1798.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi everyone, Does SKS have access to Cranleigh Parish Records beyond 1875 which seems to be where the IGI entries stop. I would like to find out the parents of MARY LOUISA KELSEY whose birth was registered in the December qtr. of 1875. According to all the census entries she was born in Cranleigh. She seems to have lived with her grandparents GEORGE and MARY ANN KELSEY in Cranleigh in 1881 and 1891 and was working as a cook in Hampstead in 1901, but I haven't been able to find out which of George and Mary Ann's children was her mother or father. TIA Regards Janet, Auckland, NZ