A Great Site: http://www2.richmond.gov.uk/burials/regenq.asp Found a couple of my relatives in minutes - what a wonderful service. Jim Robbens

Hi Mo There is a death for a Robert William THORNHILL in Camberwell in Q3 1860, which may explain why he cannot be found in 1861. I cannot find any trace of Thomas or Marian, but then nor can I find a marriage for her and Robert - have you got Thomas's birth certificate? It is possible that she and Robert never married and that she either reverted to her maiden name or married someone else under it. I think I have located Thomas's marriage in 1869 to Caroline CLARK - I can send you the image if you need it. In 1861, little Rosina (now spelt Roseanna) is with another uncle - William Bradshaw - in Great Driffield, Yorkshire. HTH Caroline > > Hello again > > I am struggling to find any mention of Robert William & Marian > THORNHILL in > 1861 Census on Find my Past. Has the 1861 been completed or is there > still > some missing? Can anyone help, please? > > I have given below the details from 1851 Census in the hope that it > will > help. > > > 1851 Census HO107 piece 1570 folio 51 page 42 > Parish of St Mary Lambeth > Ecclesiastical District All Saints > Borough of Lambeth > Address 2 Griffin Street > R W Thornhill Head Married Age 22yrs Brushmaker Journeyman born > Middlesex St > George in the East > M Thornhill Wife Married Age 24yrs Brush Makers wife born Surrey, > Wonish > T Thornhill Son Age 8mths Brush makers son born Newcastle under Lyne > Rosina Fentiman Niece Age 5 born Surrey, Egham > > Many thanks > > Mo > > > -- > Maureen Burton > Member ESFHS > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hello again I am struggling to find any mention of Robert William & Marian THORNHILL in 1861 Census on Find my Past. Has the 1861 been completed or is there still some missing? Can anyone help, please? I have given below the details from 1851 Census in the hope that it will help. 1851 Census HO107 piece 1570 folio 51 page 42 Parish of St Mary Lambeth Ecclesiastical District All Saints Borough of Lambeth Address 2 Griffin Street R W Thornhill Head Married Age 22yrs Brushmaker Journeyman born Middlesex St George in the East M Thornhill Wife Married Age 24yrs Brush Makers wife born Surrey, Wonish T Thornhill Son Age 8mths Brush makers son born Newcastle under Lyne Rosina Fentiman Niece Age 5 born Surrey, Egham Many thanks Mo -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

I am searching for the birth/baptism of my 3xgreat grandmother, SEBINA COWDRY at Godstone, Surrey in 1845. I have found the baptism entry on the free BDM index on Ancestry.com. Her father was WILLIAM COWDRY,( possibly born Horne, Surrey.) Thank you for any information, Barbara

Nivard Once again you have gone above & beyond......you know the rest. Thank you very much for your time & trouble. Regards Mo On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > You are most welcome Maureen > > I don't know if the following gives a clue, it appears to be his marriage > > Name: John Arundell > Age: Full Age > Estimated birth year: abt 1852 > Spouse Name: Caroline Elizabeth Mac Gill > Record Type: Marriage > Event Date: 16 Dec 1852 > Parish: Saint Pancras Parish Church > County: Middlesex > Borough: Camden > Father Name: John Arundell > Spouse Father Name: Charles Edward Mac Gill > > I had thought at first he was married in 1851 but on looking again he is > enumerated as single > > Looking again at the 1851 entry it looks to me like Thos GYLES age 2 born > Lambeth but cannot see a birth reg for that name > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > Thanks very much Nivard. I just couldn't fathom out what the surname was > > and > > did wonder if it "belonged" to me in some way. I haven't discovered that > > surname in my lot,YET!! > > > > Thanks again. Happy New Year. > > > > Regards > > > > Mo > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Dear Listers Some months ago I asked if anyone had any information to share about the burial ground that served Caterham Asylum/St. Lawrence's Hospital between 1914 and 1964. I attach the original message here. "Chaldon Parish Community Group is planning some restoration of the old burial ground situated west of the site of St Lawrence's Hospital.? This was the Hospital's second burial site, opened in 1914 but no longer used after 1964.? It is accessible by footpath only and has been sadly neglected over the past decade, become overgrown with brambles and scrub and used as a dumping ground.? Potentially it is a beautiful site and the remains of some gravestones can still be seen. I have noticed in the archive for this list that there was some correspondence some years ago.??I am?keen to hear from anyone who remembers this burial ground or has relations or aquaintances who were buried there.? It would be particularly interesting to find some photographs. Please get in touch if you have any knowledge of the site - first hand or anecdotal." We have started some restoration of the site with the help of the Downlands Conservation Trust. Several memorials have been uncovered and I have now a list of all names to be seen at the Burial Ground. The surnames are: Howcroft, (Cleghorn), Udy, Houghton, Hazell, Wise, Hale, Millward, Barnes, Hill, Nash. If you have a personal interest in any of these names I can give you a bit more information with a photo of the memorial stone. Information varies considerably. Liz

You are most welcome Maureen I don't know if the following gives a clue, it appears to be his marriage Name: John Arundell Age: Full Age Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Spouse Name: Caroline Elizabeth Mac Gill Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 16 Dec 1852 Parish: Saint Pancras Parish Church County: Middlesex Borough: Camden Father Name: John Arundell Spouse Father Name: Charles Edward Mac Gill I had thought at first he was married in 1851 but on looking again he is enumerated as single Looking again at the 1851 entry it looks to me like Thos GYLES age 2 born Lambeth but cannot see a birth reg for that name Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Thanks very much Nivard. I just couldn't fathom out what the surname was > and > did wonder if it "belonged" to me in some way. I haven't discovered that > surname in my lot,YET!! > > Thanks again. Happy New Year. > > Regards > > Mo

John Armodell??? Thos Tyler Bob -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Burton Sent: 02 January 2010 11:17 To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] 1851 Census - THORNHILL Hi everyone Happy New Year! Can I ask a favour of someone who has access to 1851 census, please? I have found the person I am looking for - Martha THORNHILL Age 60 in the 1851, but cannot for the life of me read the last two surnames. The reference is:- 1851 Census THORNHILL, Martha LAMBETH, Surrey HO107 piece 1570 folio 142 page 9 I can read Martha & her son Thos Thornhill, but I am defeated by the last two surnames. Many thanks Mo -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS *************************************** Wishing all Surrey Listers a peaceful Christmas and a bright New Year. Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2596 - Release Date: 01/01/10 09:20:00

Thanks very much Nivard. I just couldn't fathom out what the surname was and did wonder if it "belonged" to me in some way. I haven't discovered that surname in my lot,YET!! Thanks again. Happy New Year. Regards Mo On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Hi Maureen > > Try > 1871 census (same in 1861) > Name: John Arundell > Age: 44 > Estimated birth year: abt 1827 > Relation: Head > Spouse's name: Caroline > Gender: Male > Where born: South Pool, Devon, England > Civil parish: Wimbledon > Town: Wimbledon > County/Island: Surrey > Country: England > Registration district: Kingston > Sub-registration district: Wimbledon > ED, institution, or vessel: 8 > Household schedule number: 31 > Household Members: > Name Age > John Arundell 44 > Caroline Arundell 37 > Anne Arundell 17 > Josiah Arundell 12 > Caroline Arundell 10 > Thomas Arundell 6 > > RG10; Piece: 857; Folio: 80; Page: 6; GSU roll: 827762. > > I can't fathom the other name yet but suspect its a son of John above > perhaps > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > Hi everyone > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > Can I ask a favour of someone who has access to 1851 census, please? > > I have found the person I am looking for - Martha THORNHILL Age 60 in > the > > 1851, but cannot for the life of me read the last two surnames. > > The reference is:- > > > > 1851 Census > > THORNHILL, Martha > > LAMBETH, Surrey > > HO107 piece 1570 folio 142 page 9 > > I can read Martha & her son Thos Thornhill, but I am defeated by the last > > two surnames. > > > > Many thanks > > > > Mo > > *************************************** > Wishing all Surrey Listers a peaceful Christmas and a bright New Year. > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Hi Maureen Try 1871 census (same in 1861) Name: John Arundell Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Caroline Gender: Male Where born: South Pool, Devon, England Civil parish: Wimbledon Town: Wimbledon County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Wimbledon ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 31 Household Members: Name Age John Arundell 44 Caroline Arundell 37 Anne Arundell 17 Josiah Arundell 12 Caroline Arundell 10 Thomas Arundell 6 RG10; Piece: 857; Folio: 80; Page: 6; GSU roll: 827762. I can't fathom the other name yet but suspect its a son of John above perhaps Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi everyone > > Happy New Year! > > Can I ask a favour of someone who has access to 1851 census, please? > I have found the person I am looking for - Martha THORNHILL Age 60 in the > 1851, but cannot for the life of me read the last two surnames. > The reference is:- > > 1851 Census > THORNHILL, Martha > LAMBETH, Surrey > HO107 piece 1570 folio 142 page 9 > I can read Martha & her son Thos Thornhill, but I am defeated by the last > two surnames. > > Many thanks > > Mo

My Wheeler family was based in Camberwell in 1847 when Thomas Wheeler was born. His father Thomas may have been born in Kent; his mother Susannah or Susanne Rolls or Rolls was from Farnborough Kent. Thomas b1847 had at least five siblings as there was a sizeable gap I suspect more or a previous marriage John about 1843 Mary 1852 George 1854 James 1856 Susannah 1860 No one called Eliizabeth though. I have not been working on this branch for over a year so it is possible that more sources may be available now. Philip Maddocks ---- Original Message ----- From: "jo mason" <jo.mason@swsmail.net> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] new member interestS WHEELER >I have Elizabeth WHEELER bc1818 Middlesex m Henry FOOT in Farnham, Sry 1 > Apr 1836, all children b Farnham [Hogshatch] > > Cheers > Jo

I have Elizabeth WHEELER bc1818 Middlesex m Henry FOOT in Farnham, Sry 1 Apr 1836, all children b Farnham [Hogshatch] Cheers Jo

Hi Barbara Freebmd is a transcript of the GRO indexes of births, marriages and deaths (births rather than baptisms) Her birth registration as follows (Sabina is the usual spelling) Name: Sabina Mary Cowdry Year of Registration: 1845 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Godstone County: Surrey Volume: 4 Page: 157 She married as follows Name: William Adams Age: Full Age Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Spouse Name: Sebina Mary Cowdry Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Oct 1868 Parish: Saint George, Camberwell County: Middlesex Borough: Southwark Father Name: John Adams Spouse Father Name: William Cowdry William COWDRY is recorded as a dissenting minister In 1861 Sabina is with her uncle a Thomas DUNKIN? (sp?) in Godstone Father and family as transcribed on Ancestry for 1871 Name: William Condry [William Cowdry] Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Abram E Gender: Male Where born: England Civil parish: Foots Cray Ecclesiastical parish: Sidcup County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Bromley Sub-registration district: Chislehurst ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 71 Household Members: Name Age William Condry 50 Minister ?? Lane ?? born England Abram E Condry 48 born Surrey (Ulrica E) Celia L Condry 21 born Poplar Fath A Condry 18 born Middlesex Eva J T Condry 17 born Middlesex Ada K Condry 12 born Middlesex Rosetta Condry 8 born Surrey Florence Condry 5 born Surrey RG10; Piece: 876; Folio: 86; Page: 15 In 1861 William is enumerated as born in Paddington Middlesex In 1851 William is as born Westminster Middlesex In 1881 as Millbank London I see Caroline has beat me to it so will stop there :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I am searching for the birth/baptism of my 3xgreat grandmother, SEBINA > COWDRY at Godstone, Surrey in 1845. > > I have found the baptism entry on the free BDM index on Ancestry.com. > > Her father was WILLIAM COWDRY,( possibly born Horne, Surrey.) > > > > Thank you for any information, > > > > Barbara

Hi everyone Happy New Year! Can I ask a favour of someone who has access to 1851 census, please? I have found the person I am looking for - Martha THORNHILL Age 60 in the 1851, but cannot for the life of me read the last two surnames. The reference is:- 1851 Census THORNHILL, Martha LAMBETH, Surrey HO107 piece 1570 folio 142 page 9 I can read Martha & her son Thos Thornhill, but I am defeated by the last two surnames. Many thanks Mo -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

I am researching the surname Wheeler in the City of London, Southwark area in the 1800s. Carole Brett Happy New Year all -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Philip Maddocks Sent: 02 January 2010 07:45 To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] new member interestS I have been on this list before but not for some while. Surrey is a major brickwall in my family. My Maddocks family was raised in Camberwell RD in early 19th Century. Charles Brenchley MADDOCKS or MADDOX born 1823 is the earliest I am certain of. Also interested in CHOWN/CUCKOW in same area in 1870s HARRISONs and WHEELERs in Camberwell/Lambeth. Philip Maddocks *************************************** Wishing all Surrey Listers a peaceful Christmas and a bright New Year. Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara Sebina's birth (not baptism) was registered in the fourth quarter of 1845 in the Godstone RD as "Sabina Mary COWDRY". Using the reference from FreeBMD you can purchase her birth certificate directly from www.gro.gov.uk (do not be lured into buying it any other way - it will cost a lot more and take a lot longer). The family is quite easy to identify from the census, though in 1851 the entry contains some errors (possibly through the enumerator misreading the original form) and William's wife appears as "Rebecca" and Sebina/Sabina as "Letitta". From later censuses and a likely marriage, William's wife (and presumably Sebina's mother) was Ulrica Eleanora (nee CLAYTON). I can send you the image of this marriage if you like. Baptisms may well be hard to find for this family, as William appears to have been, or at least become, a Baptist minister and Baptists do not practice infant baptism. But civil birth registration certificates provide better information than most baptism registers anyway. You may find it worthwhile to contact the Baptist Historical Society (www.baptisthistory.org.uk) for information about William. Hope this helps Caroline > > > > I am searching for the birth/baptism of my 3xgreat grandmother, SEBINA > COWDRY at Godstone, Surrey in 1845. > > I have found the baptism entry on the free BDM index on Ancestry.com. > > Her father was WILLIAM COWDRY,( possibly born Horne, Surrey.) > > > > Thank you for any information, > > > > Barbara > > > > > > > > *************************************** > Wishing all Surrey Listers a peaceful Christmas and a bright New Year. > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

This message from a fellow List Admin is self-explanatory and may be of interest if the names feature in your research. Ann Surrey Admin ----- Original Message ----- Hi, I am the administrator for 6 very quiet surname lists and was wondering if it would be possible to let your list members know of their existance please. If you could post the following to your list I would be very grateful. Best Regards Mo (admin for the following lists) Hi, I would just like to let you know that there are lists for the following surnames: BLOXHAM including any variation of spelling, DAVIS-UK concentrating on the DAVIS surname in the United Kingdom, SALT surname including any variations in spelling, TEBBY-AUS-ENG for the discussion of the TEBBY surname including any variation of spelling, INGLESON surname including any variation of spelling and WHITEHOUSE including any variation in spelling. I have just started a roll call on all these lists, so now would be an ideal time to let other list members know of your interests in these surnames. If you would like to subscribe to any of the above just send an email to BLOXHAM-L-request@rootsweb.com DAVIS-UK-L-request@rootsweb.com SALT-L-request@rootsweb.com TEBBY-AUS-ENG-L-request@rootsweb.com INGLESON-L-request@rootsweb.com or WHITEHOUSE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the word subscribe in the message subject and message body. Many thanks for your time Mo (admin for the above mentioned lists).

I have been on this list before but not for some while. Surrey is a major brickwall in my family. My Maddocks family was raised in Camberwell RD in early 19th Century. Charles Brenchley MADDOCKS or MADDOX born 1823 is the earliest I am certain of. Also interested in CHOWN/CUCKOW in same area in 1870s HARRISONs and WHEELERs in Camberwell/Lambeth. Philip Maddocks

Hi again everyone, I have another interest in the Northeastern area: Albert A. GOODCHILD and Hilda May ALBERY married 1943. No children found. Hilda was born at Gosport, Hampshire in 1909, and was 1st cousin to my father-in-law. > I would be very interested to hear from anyone related or connected to > this couple. Kindest regards to all, Jon

Happy New Year everyone!!!! I am trying to find any details about Edwin LAWRENCE who is believed to have been born in London in about 1840 please? He went to Chile and became a member of Valparaiso and Concepcion Masonic Lodges . At the same time, my relative, William LAWRENCE belonged to the same lodges. Both were involved in similar businesses in Chile and I am beginning to think Edwin was a son to William, perhaps born before his marriage to Eleanor HASKEW in Lambeth in 1845. Edwin married Caroline STRANGE near Concepcion in 1870. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jan in sunny Queensland