Dear List, I know this is not a "SURREY" subject but on looking for a marriage entry in the St Marylebone Parish Church register for 15th January 1888 I expected to see my grandparents' entry, however, it's not there. The pages are consecutively numbered and none appear to be missing. I have a copy of their marriage certificate from the St Marylebone Register Office with clearly written dates etc. Is there an explanation why a civil copy exists and not a parish one? George Rainham, Kent.

George Does the certificate say that they were married in church? Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Pickering" <member@gpickering.freeserve.co.uk> To: "SURREY" <ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: [SRY] LONDON MARRIAGES & BANNS 1754-1921 > Dear List, > > I know this is not a "SURREY" subject but on looking for a marriage entry > in the St Marylebone Parish Church register for 15th January 1888 I > expected to see my grandparents' entry, however, it's not there. > > The pages are consecutively numbered and none appear to be missing. > > I have a copy of their marriage certificate from the St Marylebone > Register Office with clearly written dates etc. > > Is there an explanation why a civil copy exists and not a parish one? > > George > Rainham, Kent. > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi George Are you sure that they were not married in the Register Office itself or maybe one of the other Churches in the parish? If they were married in the Register Office then there would be no Parish entry - the certificate that you have should have the register number on it - does this tie in with the on-line register Debbie George Pickering wrote: > Dear List, > > I know this is not a "SURREY" subject but on looking for a marriage entry in the St Marylebone Parish Church register for 15th January 1888 I expected to see my grandparents' entry, however, it's not there. > > The pages are consecutively numbered and none appear to be missing. > > I have a copy of their marriage certificate from the St Marylebone Register Office with clearly written dates etc. > > Is there an explanation why a civil copy exists and not a parish one? > > George > Rainham, Kent. > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Chris When a surname is missing from the WSFHS Surrey Marriage Index, the reason will be either that the surname was missing or that it was completely illegible. In these circumstances is it just possible that Surrey History Centre may be able to help as they have access to the original register. The staff there are incredibly helpful so it could be worth your while emailing them. It would also be worth seeing whether LMA have Bishops Transcripts (I haven't checked), as there is always the hope of additional or even different information therein. Ann From: "Chris Wake" <chris.eintracht@bigpond.com> > The Surrey Marriage Index shows my Great(x6) Grandfather Thomas PULLEN > marriage to Rosamund ???????? on the 17th July 1705 Headley. I've probably > hit the end of the line here but does anybody have the PR's for Headley in > the hope I can find Rosamund's surname. I doubt the Marriage Entry will > show > it but I'm hoping with such an unusual name that there might be a baptism > or > something that might give me a lead.

Report of Her Majesty's Civil Service Commissioners: together ..., Volumes 11-12 By Great Britain. Civil Service Commission 11th report 1866 – There are 24 Volumes - ********************************** And a huge thank you to all in anticipation of Ur help solving the George Miller/Farnham/Surrey named in two different wills/ Captain John Miller R.N. [1843-as 'cousin] and his brother Major General James Miller R.A [1825] possibly son - illegible until I stand on head and fully transcribe all wills - This Book - List of Certified Candidates 1855-1865 [p171] One can also - look and see 'text' version - and it will bring about 3-5 pages - scroll thru and Ur name will be highlighted still and one can hold cursor over and copy paste only what is needed - be sure to look at Cover and quote all as your source after extracting the information - [Not all are fully OCR'd into text so I captured image of page 171] .... the results are amazing - when U get to where U want to be U SHOULD write down the pages numbers /on note pad/and key in the page OR if U DL the whole book - pdf [and they are huge] One can go page to that page number list and key in only advancing about to 10 #'s [ie p112/maybe p125 in google numbering as they have usually a 10 page lead article/and covers/contents etc.] Hope this all helps in Ur 'arm-chair' travels - back across time. Can send this particular image off-list if requested Mimi Taylor -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fionnghal Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:16 AM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] London Births & Baptisms, 1813-1906 - More Ancestry anomalies! hi folks, Happy New Year to you all and hope you have lots of researching success throughout 2010. If you're trying to find ST ANDREW'S LAMBETH baptisms, there is a good chance that they're hidden in amongst ALL SAINTS LALEHAM, SRY! I'm not sure how long this oversight extends, but i've been all the way through the 1860s and all files are affected. I'll list the dates i came below If you look up Lambeth records in the right hand window of their London Births & Baptisms, 1813-1906 search page, Ancestry would have you believe that they only have St Andrews Lambeth bapt images for 1899-1906 when in fact they have far more. If you key in a bapt which comes up as in Laleham All Saints, scroll down to the foot of the window and you may well see: London Metropolitan Archives, St Andrew, Coin Street, Register of baptisms, P85/AND2, Item 1. If this is the case, when you open the file, the top of the register page reassures you that Ancestry had indexed them wrongly as Laleham. Unfortunately, one or two pages don't have the church filled in so you have to juke back and forth between pages to be sure where you are. Here they are for the 1860s under All Saints Laleham You'll notice that some years include widely ranging dates ie: 1860 includes some 1866 [the page also turns up under 1866 because i found an unindexed child there :-) and that was a nice surprise. 1870 includes many odd register pages up until 1880. I haven't checked to see if they are also included under their own year. All Saints, Laleham SRY 1860 electronic page [register page] p.1 [1] All S, L'lham May 13, 1860 - Nov.11 1860; p.2/3 [98-100] All S, L'lham May 6 1859 - May 6, 1860 p.4/6 [12-17] St Andrew Lambeth Aug 28, 1859 - May 10, 1861 p.7 [64-65] St Andrew Lambeth Aug 5, 1866 - Oct 2, 1866 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1861 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [2-5] All S, L'lham January 27, 1861 - Dec 28, 1862 p.3/5 [16-21] St Andrew Lambeth Oct 17, 1860 - Jan 29, 1862 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1862 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [4-7] All S, L'lham Oct 24, 1861 - Sep 6, 1863 p.3/7 [20-29] St Andrew Lambeth Oct 3, 1861 - Mar 8, 1863 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1863 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [6-9] All S, L'lham Dec 28, 1862 - Apr 17, 1864 p.3/7 [28-37] St Andrew Lambeth Dec 21, 1862 - Feb 28, 1864 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1864 p.1/2 [8-11] All S, L'lham Oct 11, 1863 - Aug 6, 1865 p.3/9 [36-49] St Andrew Lambeth Nov 18, 1863 - Feb 19, 1865 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1865 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [10-13] All S, L'lham May 1, 1864 - Jly 22, 1866 p.3/7 [48-57] St Andrew Lambeth Nov 13, 1864 - Dec 24 1865 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1866 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [10-13] All S, L'lham Sep 17, 1864 - June 30, 1867 p.3/8 [58-69] St Andrew Lambeth Jan 21, 1866 - Jan 27, 1867 my wee Alice Beavis is to be found here also, dig.p.6 :-) though doesn't appear in the search index. All Saints, Laleham SRY 1867 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [14-17] All S, L'lham Jly 22, 1866 - May 24, 1868 p.3/10 [68-83] St Andrew Lambeth Nov 25, 1866 - Feb 19, 1868 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1868 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [16-19] All S, L'lham Oct 6, 1867 - Jly 7, 1869 p.3/11 [82-99] St Andrew Lambeth Dec 29, 1867 - Feb 21, 1869 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1869 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [18-21] All S, L'lham Jly 19, 1868 - Mar 6, 1870 p.3/12 [98-117] St Andrew Lambeth Dec 20, 1868 - Jan 1, 1870 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1870 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [20-23] All S, L'lham Jly 25, 1869 - Feb 26, 1871 p.3/20 [116-219] St Andrew Lambeth Dec 5, 1869 - Jan 7,1871 p6 [pps.122/3] untitled but in right order to be St Andrew Lambeth p.16 [106-107] St Andrew Lambeth Sep 20, 1876 - Oct 15, 1876 p. 17 [148-149] St Andrew Lambeth Apr 28, 1878 - May 26 1878 p.18/20 [202-219] St Andrew Lambeth Jan 18, 1880 - Sep 5, 1880 That's it folks for the time being folks :-) le durachd Fionnghal *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. 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> I forgot to mention that when you have found a relative, go back to the > search page and enter just the Cemetery and grave no - this will give > you everyone else in the grave. > http://www2.kingston.gov.uk/GraveRecords/ Thanks for that. It actually confirmed for me when Eliza's husband died in 1955 aged 91 years. The grave was reopened when Joseph died and had originally been purchased in 1897 when their son Richard H died aged just two years. Thanks once again --- Regards, Julie Goucher anglers.rest@virgin.net http://www.anglers-rest.net

Google books online - check 'full view' - key in an area - or SURNAME / London - even the 'History of County .....' great reads or my example: MILLER - Farnham-Surrey for keywords used - My James MILLER also Customs - London Southampton - found these years [actual term: INLAND Revenue] in the Somerset area and think he the father of the George MILER I queried/ in Farnham as my other lines are in these 2 counties/ Somerset-Surrey, as well as London/Southampton/Hampshire Cnty. This Book - List of Certified Candidates 1855-1865 [p171] One can also - look and see 'text' version - and it will bring about 3-5 pages - scroll thru and Ur name will be highlighted still and one can hold cursor over and copy paste only what is needed - be sure to look at Cover and quote all as your source after extracting the information - [Not all are fully OCR'd into text so I captured image of page 171] .... the results are amazing - when U get to where U want to be U SHOULD write down the pages numbers /on note pad/and key in the page OR if U DL the whole book - pdf [and they are huge] One can go page to that page number list and key in only advancing about to 10 #'s [ie p112/maybe p125 in google numbering as they have usually a 10 page lead article/and covers/contents etc.] Hope this all helps in Ur 'arm-chair' travels - back across time. Can send this particular image off-list if requested Mimi Taylor -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fionnghal Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:16 AM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: [SRY] London Births & Baptisms, 1813-1906 - More Ancestry anomalies! hi folks, Happy New Year to you all and hope you have lots of researching success throughout 2010. If you're trying to find ST ANDREW'S LAMBETH baptisms, there is a good chance that they're hidden in amongst ALL SAINTS LALEHAM, SRY! I'm not sure how long this oversight extends, but i've been all the way through the 1860s and all files are affected. I'll list the dates i came below If you look up Lambeth records in the right hand window of their London Births & Baptisms, 1813-1906 search page, Ancestry would have you believe that they only have St Andrews Lambeth bapt images for 1899-1906 when in fact they have far more. If you key in a bapt which comes up as in Laleham All Saints, scroll down to the foot of the window and you may well see: London Metropolitan Archives, St Andrew, Coin Street, Register of baptisms, P85/AND2, Item 1. If this is the case, when you open the file, the top of the register page reassures you that Ancestry had indexed them wrongly as Laleham. Unfortunately, one or two pages don't have the church filled in so you have to juke back and forth between pages to be sure where you are. Here they are for the 1860s under All Saints Laleham You'll notice that some years include widely ranging dates ie: 1860 includes some 1866 [the page also turns up under 1866 because i found an unindexed child there :-) and that was a nice surprise. 1870 includes many odd register pages up until 1880. I haven't checked to see if they are also included under their own year. All Saints, Laleham SRY 1860 electronic page [register page] p.1 [1] All S, L'lham May 13, 1860 - Nov.11 1860; p.2/3 [98-100] All S, L'lham May 6 1859 - May 6, 1860 p.4/6 [12-17] St Andrew Lambeth Aug 28, 1859 - May 10, 1861 p.7 [64-65] St Andrew Lambeth Aug 5, 1866 - Oct 2, 1866 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1861 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [2-5] All S, L'lham January 27, 1861 - Dec 28, 1862 p.3/5 [16-21] St Andrew Lambeth Oct 17, 1860 - Jan 29, 1862 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1862 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [4-7] All S, L'lham Oct 24, 1861 - Sep 6, 1863 p.3/7 [20-29] St Andrew Lambeth Oct 3, 1861 - Mar 8, 1863 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1863 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [6-9] All S, L'lham Dec 28, 1862 - Apr 17, 1864 p.3/7 [28-37] St Andrew Lambeth Dec 21, 1862 - Feb 28, 1864 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1864 p.1/2 [8-11] All S, L'lham Oct 11, 1863 - Aug 6, 1865 p.3/9 [36-49] St Andrew Lambeth Nov 18, 1863 - Feb 19, 1865 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1865 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [10-13] All S, L'lham May 1, 1864 - Jly 22, 1866 p.3/7 [48-57] St Andrew Lambeth Nov 13, 1864 - Dec 24 1865 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1866 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [10-13] All S, L'lham Sep 17, 1864 - June 30, 1867 p.3/8 [58-69] St Andrew Lambeth Jan 21, 1866 - Jan 27, 1867 my wee Alice Beavis is to be found here also, dig.p.6 :-) though doesn't appear in the search index. All Saints, Laleham SRY 1867 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [14-17] All S, L'lham Jly 22, 1866 - May 24, 1868 p.3/10 [68-83] St Andrew Lambeth Nov 25, 1866 - Feb 19, 1868 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1868 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [16-19] All S, L'lham Oct 6, 1867 - Jly 7, 1869 p.3/11 [82-99] St Andrew Lambeth Dec 29, 1867 - Feb 21, 1869 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1869 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [18-21] All S, L'lham Jly 19, 1868 - Mar 6, 1870 p.3/12 [98-117] St Andrew Lambeth Dec 20, 1868 - Jan 1, 1870 All Saints, Laleham SRY 1870 electronic page [register page] p.1/2 [20-23] All S, L'lham Jly 25, 1869 - Feb 26, 1871 p.3/20 [116-219] St Andrew Lambeth Dec 5, 1869 - Jan 7,1871 p6 [pps.122/3] untitled but in right order to be St Andrew Lambeth p.16 [106-107] St Andrew Lambeth Sep 20, 1876 - Oct 15, 1876 p. 17 [148-149] St Andrew Lambeth Apr 28, 1878 - May 26 1878 p.18/20 [202-219] St Andrew Lambeth Jan 18, 1880 - Sep 5, 1880 That's it folks for the time being folks :-) le durachd Fionnghal *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. 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In 1871 Rose Adelaide WHEELER lived with her husband, William DOWNS in St Mary's parish, Brixton. Her father was John Baldwin WHEELER. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <jmb@netspace.net.au> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] new member interestS WHEELER > Philip, > > I have quite a bit on this family, as I confused it for a while with my James > Wheeler (born Farnborough, Berks) who married Susannah (can't remember surname). > > Happy to exchange details. > > My James Wheeler lived in Camberwell for some time with his daughter Alice > Purchess, and his sons lived in the area in as well. > Currently on holidays, so don't have detials to hand. > > Regards > > James Butler > > Quoting Philip Maddocks <listenat@talktalk.net>: > >> My Wheeler family was based in Camberwell in 1847 when Thomas Wheeler was >> born. >> His father Thomas may have been born in Kent; his mother Susannah or Susanne >> Rolls or Rolls was from Farnborough Kent. >> >> Thomas b1847 had at least five siblings as there was a sizeable gap I >> suspect more or a previous marriage >> John about 1843 Mary 1852 George 1854 James 1856 Susannah 1860 >> >> No one called Eliizabeth though. I have not been working on this branch for >> over a year so it is possible that more sources may be available now. >> >> Philip Maddocks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- Original Message ----- >> From: "jo mason" <jo.mason@swsmail.net> >> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [SRY] new member interestS WHEELER >> >> >> >I have Elizabeth WHEELER bc1818 Middlesex m Henry FOOT in Farnham, Sry 1 >> > Apr 1836, all children b Farnham [Hogshatch] >> > >> > Cheers >> > Jo >> >> >> *************************************** >> Wishing all Surrey Listers a peaceful Christmas and a bright New Year. >> >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Julie I forgot to mention that when you have found a relative, go back to the search page and enter just the Cemetery and grave no - this will give you everyone else in the grave. Debbie Julie Goucher wrote: >> http://www2.kingston.gov.uk/GraveRecords/ >> >> Which is both Kingston and Surbiton cemeteries - you can view and save >> the actual burial register entries >> Debbie >> > > Thanks so much for passing this site on. I now have the name of the undertaker > who dealt with the funeral of my Great Great Aunt Eliza PARSLOW nee ELSTONE. > > --- > Regards, > Julie Goucher > anglers.rest@virgin.net > http://www.anglers-rest.net > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Philip, I have quite a bit on this family, as I confused it for a while with my James Wheeler (born Farnborough, Berks) who married Susannah (can't remember surname). Happy to exchange details. My James Wheeler lived in Camberwell for some time with his daughter Alice Purchess, and his sons lived in the area in as well. Currently on holidays, so don't have detials to hand. Regards James Butler Quoting Philip Maddocks <listenat@talktalk.net>: > My Wheeler family was based in Camberwell in 1847 when Thomas Wheeler was > born. > His father Thomas may have been born in Kent; his mother Susannah or Susanne > Rolls or Rolls was from Farnborough Kent. > > Thomas b1847 had at least five siblings as there was a sizeable gap I > suspect more or a previous marriage > John about 1843 Mary 1852 George 1854 James 1856 Susannah 1860 > > No one called Eliizabeth though. I have not been working on this branch for > over a year so it is possible that more sources may be available now. > > Philip Maddocks > > > > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "jo mason" <jo.mason@swsmail.net> > To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: [SRY] new member interestS WHEELER > > > >I have Elizabeth WHEELER bc1818 Middlesex m Henry FOOT in Farnham, Sry 1 > > Apr 1836, all children b Farnham [Hogshatch] > > > > Cheers > > Jo > > > *************************************** > Wishing all Surrey Listers a peaceful Christmas and a bright New Year. > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au

> http://www2.kingston.gov.uk/GraveRecords/ > > Which is both Kingston and Surbiton cemeteries - you can view and save > the actual burial register entries > Debbie Thanks so much for passing this site on. I now have the name of the undertaker who dealt with the funeral of my Great Great Aunt Eliza PARSLOW nee ELSTONE. --- Regards, Julie Goucher anglers.rest@virgin.net http://www.anglers-rest.net

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, September 24, 1825; Issue 3778. DIED At Ramsgate, Elizabeth, wife of the Rev. J. LEGREW, of Caterham, Surrey.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, May 31,1823; Issue 3657. DIED Very suddenly, at his nephew's house, on Sion-hill, Bath, in the 80th year of his age, John BALLY, Esq., late of Kingston-upon-Thames, and for many years in the Hon. East India Company's service.

Hi Barbara The baptism for Ulrica is there on Ancestry transcribed as follows Name: Ubrica Eleonora Clayton Record Type: Baptism Date: 15 Jan 1823 Mother's Name: Catharine Anastasia Clayton Parish: Saint Mary At Lambeth Borough: Lambeth County: Middlesex (which in fairness is what it looks like on the page) The only thing extra I can see is under "Abode" which looks like "Marsh" Re Williams father as given on his marriage cert This may be worth pursuing >From the National Archives, downloadable for 3.50gbp Description Will of James Cowdry, Farmer of Horne , Surrey Date 22 August 1845 Catalogue reference PROB 11/2022links to the Catalogue Dept Records of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury Series Prerogative Court of Canterbury and related Probate Jurisdictions: Will Registers Piece Volume number: 13 Quire numbers: 601-650 Image contains 1 will of many for the catalogue reference Number of image files: 1 Image Reference Format and Version Part Number Size (KB) Number of Pages Price (£) 242 / 212 PDF 1 1 138 2 3.50 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Thank you Caroline and Nivard for the information you posted for Sebina. > I was puzzled as to why I couldn't find Baptisms for any members of the > Cowdry family-thank you for enlightening me re the Baptism policies of the > Baptist Church. > On Sebina's marriage certificate, her father's occupation was given as > "Dissenting Minister"-what does this imply? > I have also found the following entry for Ulrica Eleanora Clayton, > christened 25 November 1823, St Mary's, Lambeth, Surrey, on the IGI., > Her mother was Catherine Anastasia Clayton-the baptism doesn't appear on > ancestry.who should I contact regarding the possibility of finding > further > information being recorded in the Baptism Register? > Barbara > Australia

Hi Barbara As Pam says, "Dissenting Minister" implies a minister in a protestant, but not Anglican, church. It would cover a Baptist minister, which is what censuses give for Sebina's father. Ulrica's baptism was on 15 January 1823 (not 25 November). Ancestry have mistranscribed her name as "Ubrica". HTH Caroline > > > > On Sebina's marriage certificate, her father's occupation was given as > "Dissenting Minister"-what does this imply? > > > > I have also found the following entry for Ulrica Eleanora Clayton, > christened 25 November 1823, St Mary's, Lambeth, Surrey, on the IGI., > > Her mother was Catherine Anastasia Clayton-the baptism doesn't appear > on > ancestry.who should I contact regarding the possibility of finding > further > information being recorded in the Baptism Register? > > > > Barbara > > Australia > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Also try http://www2.kingston.gov.uk/GraveRecords/ Which is both Kingston and Surbiton cemeteries - you can view and save the actual burial register entries Debbie Jim Robbens wrote: > A Great Site: > > http://www2.richmond.gov.uk/burials/regenq.asp > > Found a couple of my relatives in minutes - what a wonderful service. > > Jim Robbens > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Good Morning Caroline Thank you for taking the time & trouble to reply. Yes I have the Marriage cert for Thomas & Caroline and the birth cert for Thomas, Thank you. I have spent practically the last 48hours on this line, having given up once before on them, because I couldn't find what I was looking for. I have now managed to progress, through census, another 2 generations back to 1796 and am in the process of ordering half a dozen certs to make sure I have the correct family. Thanks again for your interest and Happy New Year. Regards Maureen On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Caroline Bradford < caroline.bradford@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Hi Mo > > There is a death for a Robert William THORNHILL in Camberwell in Q3 1860, > which may explain why he cannot be found in 1861. I cannot find any trace > of Thomas or Marian, but then nor can I find a marriage for her and Robert > - > have you got Thomas's birth certificate? It is possible that she and > Robert > never married and that she either reverted to her maiden name or married > someone else under it. > > I think I have located Thomas's marriage in 1869 to Caroline CLARK - I can > send you the image if you need it. > > In 1861, little Rosina (now spelt Roseanna) is with another uncle - William > Bradshaw - in Great Driffield, Yorkshire. > > HTH > > Caroline > > > > > Hello again > > > > I am struggling to find any mention of Robert William & Marian > > THORNHILL in > > 1861 Census on Find my Past. Has the 1861 been completed or is there > > still > > some missing? Can anyone help, please? > > > > I have given below the details from 1851 Census in the hope that it > > will > > help. > > > > > > 1851 Census HO107 piece 1570 folio 51 page 42 > > Parish of St Mary Lambeth > > Ecclesiastical District All Saints > > Borough of Lambeth > > Address 2 Griffin Street > > R W Thornhill Head Married Age 22yrs Brushmaker Journeyman born > > Middlesex St > > George in the East > > M Thornhill Wife Married Age 24yrs Brush Makers wife born Surrey, > > Wonish > > T Thornhill Son Age 8mths Brush makers son born Newcastle under Lyne > > Rosina Fentiman Niece Age 5 born Surrey, Egham > > > > Many thanks > > > > Mo > > > > > > -- > > Maureen Burton > > Member ESFHS > > *************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Richard I know a little about my Wheelers. My greatgrandmother Lily Francis (born in Croydon) had a sister Eliza Rosina (married CUTTS) and I have contacted her grandson. Eliza Rosina was known as Rose and her grandson could not find her birth because of this so I do not think that this is the same as Elizabeth. The brothers were Walter, Herbert, George and Willie (William). Willie we know about as living aunties knew him; he is remembered for moving to Southend Essex and running a cinema and a furniture shop as well as being involved in amateur dramatics. I believe George (married WATERS) went to Kent near Erith and had a small-holding cherry orchard. Walter (married EGAN) was working at New Cross at the end of the war narrowly surviving the V2 that hit Woolworths. James is this the same family? Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard M Brown" <brownrichardm@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] new member interests (Philip Maddocks) WHEELER > Philip & Carole, > > I have WHEELER interests in Lambeth. There was a particularly notorious > event which affected Elizabeth Wheeler (nee CATHIE) If this hint rings > bells, then we will have a definite connection!! WHEELER descendants > emigrated to Alberta, Canada. The CATHIE line was in the Licensed Trade in > Southwark, Lambeth and North of the Thames. > > Richard Brown Bromley, Kent > U.K. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 07:44:44 -0000 > From: "Philip Maddocks" <listenat@talktalk.net> > Subject: [SRY] new member interestS > :==>< SNIP > Also interested in CHOWN/CUCKOW in same area in 1870s > HARRISONs and WHEELERs in Camberwell/Lambeth. > > Philip Maddocks > > > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:10:46 -0000 > > > :==>< SNIP > > I am researching the surname Wheeler in the City of London, Southwark area > in the 1800s. > > Carole Brett > Happy New Year all > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Jim I found most of my HEDGES family there Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Robbens" <jim@robbens.freeserve.co.uk> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:27 AM Subject: [SRY] Cemetery Surrey >A Great Site: > > http://www2.richmond.gov.uk/burials/regenq.asp > > Found a couple of my relatives in minutes - what a wonderful service. > > Jim Robbens > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Philip & Carole, I have WHEELER interests in Lambeth. There was a particularly notorious event which affected Elizabeth Wheeler (nee CATHIE) If this hint rings bells, then we will have a definite connection!! WHEELER descendants emigrated to Alberta, Canada. The CATHIE line was in the Licensed Trade in Southwark, Lambeth and North of the Thames. Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 07:44:44 -0000 From: "Philip Maddocks" <listenat@talktalk.net> Subject: [SRY] new member interestS :==>< SNIP Also interested in CHOWN/CUCKOW in same area in 1870s HARRISONs and WHEELERs in Camberwell/Lambeth. Philip Maddocks Message: 8 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:10:46 -0000 :==>< SNIP I am researching the surname Wheeler in the City of London, Southwark area in the 1800s. Carole Brett Happy New Year all