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    1. Re: [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Nancy You are most welcome Santa is a tad late but may be dropping something down your chimney around now <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS you don't want to make rash offers like that re USA , I might just take you up on it :-) > > Holy COW!!! I wasn't even dreaming that you'd find anything--just hoping > to get some instruction on how to do the preliminary work, and here you've > found more in one hour than I've found in years!!!! How did you DO > that???!!! >

    01/05/2010 12:40:24
    1. Re: [SRY] ADMIN re Surrey Burials
    2. jan royal
    3. thanks Ann, I'll send my request again - with appropriate headings, Jan > From: ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com > To: ENG-SURREY@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:35:02 +0000 > Subject: [SRY] ADMIN re Surrey Burials > > Please put surnames in capitals the subject lines of these requests, just > as for any other kind of message - eg: > > Surrey Cemetery Burial - FANACKAPAN > > Whilst you may be interested in the burial information, others reading the > message subject lines may spot names of interest - and it may avoid messages > being deleted unread. > > Although Ian hasn't said so, I believe patience will be the order of the day > as he is unlikely to be able to respond to all requests immediately so > please allow at least a few days. > > Many thanks. > > Ann > Surrey Admin > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar NOW! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/

    01/05/2010 12:39:13
    1. Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' - Example w/BATCH #
    2. geniebugged
    3. Last line entry - C stands for Christening - I only used her name and parents fist names [Duncan] as she m. James Miller and mother of the Captain JOHN MILLER Somerset who named George of Surrey in his will as did his brother .... ******************** Birth: Christening: 27 JUL 1757 Saint George In The East, Stepney, London, England Death: Burial: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Parents: Father: JOHN DUNCAN Family Mother: JANE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C055781 1729 - 1747 0578786 Film 6902328 Film C055781 1747 - 1779 0578787 Film NONE ********************************* W/O Batch number to work with - this disclaimer >>Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Film Number: 183588 Page Number: 888 Reference number: 31611 << -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2548 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    01/05/2010 12:35:45
    1. Re: [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. I fully intend for you to take me up on it! I would be proud to help you in any way! Don't hesitate to ask. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Jan 5, 2010 1:40 pm Subject: Re: [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Nancy You are most welcome Santa is a tad late but may be dropping something down your chimney around now <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS you don't want to make rash offers like that re USA , I might just take you up on it :-) > > Holy COW!!! I wasn't even dreaming that you'd find anything--just hoping > to get some instruction on how to do the preliminary work, and here you've > found more in one hour than I've found in years!!!! How did you DO > that???!!! > *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/05/2010 12:35:31
    1. Re: [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups?
    2. I did notice that. One of their daughters, I believe, married one of the sons. I'm not sure how/if the Archer that Sarah married in 1859 was related to them, but I'm likely thinking they were. If I only had my other hard drive, doggone it, I could tell you. Again, thanks for your lovely and kind help. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Jan 5, 2010 12:30 pm Subject: Re: [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups? Hi again Forgot to mention, did you notice that there is a family of ARCHERs next door to Sarah in 1851 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, and thanks for the generous offer! I'm quite unfamiliar with the > documents and systems that would let me know where and when my relatives > in Surrey were buried. How might I get the prerequisite information in > order to request a lookup? This is an open question for any kind member > of this list. *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/05/2010 12:20:04
    1. Re: [SRY] Surrey Burials - Lookups
    2. jan royal
    3. > Hello Ian, very kind of you, I'm looking for a burial of gr grandfather x 3, Edward Trotter Brafield, he died 5 Ebenezer Place, Neckinger Road, Bermondsey on 19 September 1860 age 78 - long ago gave up hope of finding his burial place but with your help, you never know, regards, jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ian simpson > Sent: 04 January 2010 09:58 > To: surrey listR > Subject: [SRY] Surrey Burials - Lookups > > > Over the years my group has collected information on burials in Surrey > CEMETERIES (not churchyards hence mainly post 1850). We have about 300,000 > names from burial registers, memorial inscriptions, newspaper obits and > lists on websites. Where websites have fully searcheable facilities, such as > Kingston & Surbiton, we have obviously not duplicated this work however > there are quite a lot of other partial lists which we have collated. > > > > I am willing to do searches of our databases for individual names with full > date of death and preferably age at death. > > I cannot however do blanket one name searches nor partial name/date > searches. > > > > Ian > > Friends of Surrey Cemeteries > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ A world FIRST in property search has arrived! Check out Domain Radar NOW! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/

    01/05/2010 12:15:37
    1. Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' - NOT always a batch number
    2. geniebugged
    3. There isn't always a batch number - Ever since they began allowing anyone and everyone to put any thing up there - w/o sources no batch or even film numbers given Send me off list what U searched - name - location etc and I'll run it Mimi geniebugged@cox.net -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:23 PM To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' - Hi, If I may jump into this conversation------ I can only get to #5, where it says 'batch number'. I don't see any batch #. What am I missing or doing wrong? Maureen From: "geniebugged" <geniebugged@cox.net> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' - > > Using IGI for jump start in Parish/and other records available – > > *********************************************************** > International Genealogical Index > > Gender: Male Marriage: SEP 1722 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint > Marylebone, London, England > > > > 1] www.familysearch.org > > > > 2] up under srch/choose ‘advanced’ form opens > > > > 3] on left select ‘IGI’ > > > > 4] fill in at least surname and areas if known – [and event to narrow > srch] > > > > 5] results will show BATCH number if one [scroll down] > > > > 6] click on that and then key the ‘surname’ back in > > And that will bring U to a list of all in the area selected > > > > I used MILLER and London Greater for following. > > > International Genealogical Index > > Gender: Male Marriage: SEP 1722 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint > Marylebone, London, England > > ****************************************************************** > > Since LDS allows submissions by anyone w/o any confirmation as to source/ > even accuracy – but U may just get a clue or two > > > > I was able to find 2 of our MILLERS including marriage dates AS WELL > AS CHRISTENINGS/BIRTHs OF THE CHILDREN AT St. Edmund, The King and > Martyr – London – > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Mimi Taylor *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2548 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    01/05/2010 12:12:24
    1. Re: [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups?
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi again Forgot to mention, did you notice that there is a family of ARCHERs next door to Sarah in 1851 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, and thanks for the generous offer! I'm quite unfamiliar with the > documents and systems that would let me know where and when my relatives > in Surrey were buried. How might I get the prerequisite information in > order to request a lookup? This is an open question for any kind member > of this list.

    01/05/2010 11:30:26
    1. Re: [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups?
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Nancy I can see your lot in 1841 under DURNER on Ancestry (a correction has been added) I take it you have the marriage 13 May 1825 in Paddington (funnily enough indexed under Raddington Somerset in the Pallots index <g>) Both made their mark rather than signing Sarah and family are at 7 Bedford Court in 1851 under the name DRUMMOND >From the GRO Deaths Dec 1850 DRUMMOND Samuel Lambeth 4 163 And from Ancestry burials St Mary at Lambeth 1850 Samuel DRUMMOND Bedford Court Oct 7th (age) 49 A NUDGE? (minister) It does look like Sarah remarried to a James ARCHER in 1859, both made their mark and there was a David DRUMER (sic) as a witness (in a very poor hand) Sarahs father is given as Charles MARTIN a Gardener Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, and thanks for the generous offer! I'm quite unfamiliar with the > documents and systems that would let me know where and when my relatives > in Surrey were buried. How might I get the prerequisite information in > order to request a lookup? This is an open question for any kind member > of this list. > > In specific, I've looked up death information in the BMD sites for my > ggggrandfather Samuel Drummer. His name has also been written as Durner, > Dumer, Dummer, Drummers, Drummell, Drummells, etc. His birth year was > 1801, and he died between 1841 (Hammersmith census) and 1851 (when his > widow and children are in the Lambeth census--anyway, I think it's > Lambeth, but don't have the info right at my fingertips). I've spotted a > few people who might be him, but it could get quite expensive, sending out > money for death certificates that are so iffy. I know where he was > married, and where his children where christened--might this be a good > indicator? Also, he was a humble brickmaker then laborer, so don't think > he had much in the way of property to dispose of, and maybe not even a > will--I've done some cursory searching but don't even really know where to > start. > > His wife, my ggggrandmother, was Sarah Martin Drummer (etc. with the > surnames). I think she remarried to an Archer, since my gggrandmother, > Sophia Drummer, was in service in 1861 with a Sarah Archer that was born > the same year and place--Hammersmith--as her mother. There was also a > Sarah Trummer who married an Archer in what would have been the right time > and area to have been her. > > I'd welcome any help with this. I've been extremely fortunate in finding > information on the siblings, their spouses, etc. But no luck whatsoever > in finding probable descendents, documentation, etc. As a friend likes to > say, "Genealogy without documentation is mythology"... > > Thanks for any help given here. I'd be glad to reciprocate with American > records, if anyone needs help in that department. We have a fine > genealogy library and a nearby NARA:-) > > Nancy Merrill Sayed

    01/05/2010 11:28:23
    1. Re: [SRY] Surrey Burials - Lookups
    2. cynthia daniels
    3. If possible I am seeking information on Rebecca Dorothy HOULDSWORTH, 1st August, 1951, address 3 Knox Road, Battersea, age 65 years. Cynthia in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian simpson" <izsimp@hotmail.com> To: "surrey listR" <eng-surrey-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:58 PM Subject: [SRY] Surrey Burials - Lookups > > Over the years my group has collected information on burials in Surrey > CEMETERIES (not churchyards hence mainly post 1850). We have about 300,000 > names from burial registers, memorial inscriptions, newspaper obits and > lists on websites. Where websites have fully searcheable facilities, such > as Kingston & Surbiton, we have obviously not duplicated this work however > there are quite a lot of other partial lists which we have collated. > > > > I am willing to do searches of our databases for individual names with > full date of death and preferably age at death. > > I cannot however do blanket one name searches nor partial name/date > searches. > > > > Ian > > Friends of Surrey Cemeteries > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access > both > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/05/2010 08:30:23
    1. Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' -
    2. Maureen
    3. Hi, If I may jump into this conversation------ I can only get to #5, where it says 'batch number'. I don't see any batch #. What am I missing or doing wrong? Maureen From: "geniebugged" <geniebugged@cox.net> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' - > > Using IGI for jump start in Parish/and other records available – > > *********************************************************** > International Genealogical Index > > Gender: Male Marriage: SEP 1722 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint > Marylebone, London, England > > > > 1] www.familysearch.org > > > > 2] up under srch/choose ‘advanced’ form opens > > > > 3] on left select ‘IGI’ > > > > 4] fill in at least surname and areas if known – [and event to narrow > srch] > > > > 5] results will show BATCH number if one [scroll down] > > > > 6] click on that and then key the ‘surname’ back in > > And that will bring U to a list of all in the area selected > > > > I used MILLER and London Greater for following. > > > International Genealogical Index > > Gender: Male Marriage: SEP 1722 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint > Marylebone, London, England > > ****************************************************************** > > Since LDS allows submissions by anyone w/o any confirmation as to source/ > even accuracy – but U may just get a clue or two > > > > I was able to find 2 of our MILLERS including marriage dates AS WELL > AS CHRISTENINGS/BIRTHs OF THE CHILDREN AT St. Edmund, The King and > Martyr – London – > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Mimi Taylor

    01/05/2010 08:22:58
    1. Re: [SRY] Surrey Burials - Lookups
    2. Peter
    3. Hello Ian, I have a death certificate for a Richard Whittington dated 20 DEC 1908 aged two years, district Southwark sub district St. Geo. The Martyr West. Parents Henry and E Whittington of 35 Morecambe Street Southwark. I am trying to establish if the child had a second given name, hopefully Victor. Respectfully Peter Whittington Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-surrey-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ian simpson Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:58 PM To: surrey listR Subject: [SRY] Surrey Burials - Lookups Over the years my group has collected information on burials in Surrey CEMETERIES (not churchyards hence mainly post 1850). We have about 300,000 names from burial registers, memorial inscriptions, newspaper obits and lists on websites. Where websites have fully searcheable facilities, such as Kingston & Surbiton, we have obviously not duplicated this work however there are quite a lot of other partial lists which we have collated. I am willing to do searches of our databases for individual names with full date of death and preferably age at death. I cannot however do blanket one name searches nor partial name/date searches. Ian Friends of Surrey Cemeteries _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.125/2600 - Release Date: 01/04/10 19:35:00

    01/05/2010 07:03:00
    1. Re: [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. Holy COW!!! I wasn't even dreaming that you'd find anything--just hoping to get some instruction on how to do the preliminary work, and here you've found more in one hour than I've found in years!!!! How did you DO that???!!! I made the correction under Durner, I believe, but can't verify it until I got to the library, where they have the edition that I use. As for the marriage, I knew it was in 1825 in Paddington (and have gone under, over and around with ancestry about correcting the Raddington mistake, to no avail). But I didn't know that it was on 13 May. Again, my deepest thanks for that. I knew that they were in the 1851 census as Drummond, and at 7 Bedford Ct.--they're living with/near family in both the 1841 and 1851 censuses. But I didn't know that Samuel died/was buried as Drummond, since they'd used so many other names. Since they "made their mark", as you say, I'm guessing that neither one knew how to read or write--perhaps that's why the spellings are so erratic). My grandmother Sophia's (their daughter's) signature was very shaky even near her death in 1929, so I suspect that she probably couldn't read or write, either. Also, I think that the David Dumer who was a witness to the marriage, was Sarah and Samuel's son. It's so hard to find them, with the different spellings of their surnames. I believe that I've found one of their children (George) with his grandchild in a later census, one aurnamed Drummond, the other Drummer, or some such (it's hard to tell right off the top of my head, since the greater part of my information is on a hard drive that I can't access right now). I suspected that Sarah was Charles' daughter, from the christening records, but wasn't sure. Now, not only have you given me a name but an occupation. You're amazing, Mr. Ovington!!! Absolutely uncanny how you found all of that so quickly. Do you research for a living? Don't want to get all mushy or anything, but I just feel like crying, to know now where my ggggrandfather is, and am so touched to think that it might actually be possible one day to lay a wreath on his grave. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. And please keep me in mind if you need any American research done. It would be my honor to help you in any way. Nancy Hi Nancy I can see your lot in 1841 under DURNER on Ancestry (a correction has been added) I take it you have the marriage 13 May 1825 in Paddington (funnily enough indexed under Raddington Somerset in the Pallots index <g>) Both made their mark rather than signing Sarah and family are at 7 Bedford Court in 1851 under the name DRUMMOND >From the GRO Deaths Dec 1850 DRUMMOND Samuel Lambeth 4 163 And from Ancestry burials St Mary at Lambeth 1850 Samuel DRUMMOND Bedford Court Oct 7th (age) 49 A NUDGE? (minister) It does look like Sarah remarried to a James ARCHER in 1859, both made their mark and there was a David DRUMER (sic) as a witness (in a very poor hand) Sarahs father is given as Charles MARTIN a Gardener Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

    01/05/2010 06:48:31
    1. Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' -
    2. That's a terrific set of instructions, and thanks for taking the time to write such detailed information! I've often used the IGI, but never have I seen some of those tricks and turns. I'm just itching to get started. Thanks for your kindness and consideration! Nancy -----Original Message----- From: geniebugged <geniebugged@cox.net> To: eng-surrey@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Jan 5, 2010 11:00 am Subject: Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' - Using IGI for jump start in Parish/and other records available – *********************************************************** International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: SEP 1722 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England 1] www.familysearch.org 2] up under srch/choose ‘advanced’ form opens 3] on left select ‘IGI’ 4] fill in at least surname and areas if known – [and event to narrow srch] 5] results will show BATCH number if one [scroll down] 6] click on that and then key the ‘surname’ back in And that will bring U to a list of all in the area selected I used MILLER and London Greater for following. International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: SEP 1722 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England ****************************************************************** Since LDS allows submissions by anyone w/o any confirmation as to source/ even accuracy – but U may just get a clue or two I was able to find 2 of our MILLERS including marriage dates AS WELL AS CHRISTENINGS/BIRTHs OF THE CHILDREN AT St. Edmund, The King and Martyr – London – Hope this helps Mimi Taylor -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2547 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/05/2010 05:47:37
    1. [SRY] Prerequisite for burial look ups?
    2. Hi, and thanks for the generous offer! I'm quite unfamiliar with the documents and systems that would let me know where and when my relatives in Surrey were buried. How might I get the prerequisite information in order to request a lookup? This is an open question for any kind member of this list. In specific, I've looked up death information in the BMD sites for my ggggrandfather Samuel Drummer. His name has also been written as Durner, Dumer, Dummer, Drummers, Drummell, Drummells, etc. His birth year was 1801, and he died between 1841 (Hammersmith census) and 1851 (when his widow and children are in the Lambeth census--anyway, I think it's Lambeth, but don't have the info right at my fingertips). I've spotted a few people who might be him, but it could get quite expensive, sending out money for death certificates that are so iffy. I know where he was married, and where his children where christened--might this be a good indicator? Also, he was a humble brickmaker then laborer, so don't think he had much in the way of property to dispose of, and maybe not even a will--I've done some cursory searching but don't even really know where to start. His wife, my ggggrandmother, was Sarah Martin Drummer (etc. with the surnames). I think she remarried to an Archer, since my gggrandmother, Sophia Drummer, was in service in 1861 with a Sarah Archer that was born the same year and place--Hammersmith--as her mother. There was also a Sarah Trummer who married an Archer in what would have been the right time and area to have been her. I'd welcome any help with this. I've been extremely fortunate in finding information on the siblings, their spouses, etc. But no luck whatsoever in finding probable descendents, documentation, etc. As a friend likes to say, "Genealogy without documentation is mythology"... Thanks for any help given here. I'd be glad to reciprocate with American records, if anyone needs help in that department. We have a fine genealogy library and a nearby NARA:-) Nancy Merrill Sayed

    01/05/2010 05:09:21
    1. Re: [SRY] - ................ Using IGI for 'clues' -
    2. geniebugged
    3. Using IGI for jump start in Parish/and other records available – *********************************************************** International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: SEP 1722 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England 1] www.familysearch.org 2] up under srch/choose ‘advanced’ form opens 3] on left select ‘IGI’ 4] fill in at least surname and areas if known – [and event to narrow srch] 5] results will show BATCH number if one [scroll down] 6] click on that and then key the ‘surname’ back in And that will bring U to a list of all in the area selected I used MILLER and London Greater for following. International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: SEP 1722 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England ****************************************************************** Since LDS allows submissions by anyone w/o any confirmation as to source/ even accuracy – but U may just get a clue or two I was able to find 2 of our MILLERS including marriage dates AS WELL AS CHRISTENINGS/BIRTHs OF THE CHILDREN AT St. Edmund, The King and Martyr – London – Hope this helps Mimi Taylor -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2547 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    01/05/2010 05:00:13
    1. Re: [SRY] ancestry burial query
    2. BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } hi Caroline I hadn't thought that there would be a physical grave or headstone still intact but just to know that my people were buried in the church yard is wonderful so if we have time we might still do a visit cheers kas On Tue 05/01/10 7:49 AM , "Caroline Bradford" caroline.bradford@btinternet.com sent: Hi Kas Whilst finding the *record* of your ancestor's burial is indeed very satisfying, you should not necessarily assume that there will be a physical grave for you to visit, let alone a legible headstone. The churchyard at St Giles Camberwell does still exist (though like many it is now effectively a public park), and I believe many of the stones have been removed. I wouldn't want to deter you from visiting the site - just don't raise your hopes up too high! Best wishes Caroline > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com [1] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com [2]. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY- > request@rootsweb.com [3] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com [4]. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com [5] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---- Message sent via Adam Internet WebMail - http://www.adam.com.au/ Links: ------ [1] mailto:ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com [2] mailto:Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com [3] mailto:request@rootsweb.com [4] mailto:Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com [5] mailto:ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com

    01/05/2010 02:53:25
    1. [SRY] Burial look-ups
    2. carole_ watts
    3. I'm looking for the burial of WILLIAM CHARLES LOVETT who died aged 81 on 6th July 1954 in Putney Hospital having lived in Battersea most of his life. Thank you for taking the trouble to look this up Carole  Carole Watts carole_watts@talk21.co.uk

    01/05/2010 01:35:26
    1. [SRY] ADMIN re Surrey Burials
    2. Ann Sargeant
    3. Please put surnames in capitals the subject lines of these requests, just as for any other kind of message - eg: Surrey Cemetery Burial - FANACKAPAN Whilst you may be interested in the burial information, others reading the message subject lines may spot names of interest - and it may avoid messages being deleted unread. Although Ian hasn't said so, I believe patience will be the order of the day as he is unlikely to be able to respond to all requests immediately so please allow at least a few days. Many thanks. Ann Surrey Admin

    01/05/2010 01:35:02
    1. Re: [SRY] ancestry burial query
    2. kas
    3. Hi Nivard yes that's him , my ggg gfather Edward TANNER and I am thrilled to bits to find his burial and also his wife Sarah TANNER in 1849 at St Giles I'm coming to london end of jan so might be worth a visit thanks for the web sites cheers kas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <eng-surrey@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] ancestry burial query > Hi Kas > > I would say so yes > > Interesting address isn't it ! > > Burials in the Parish of St Giles Camberwell in the County of Surrey in > the > year 1845 > > Edward TANNER - Pudding Lane London - 19th May - 52 yrs - H W C HYDE > Curate > > Is your Edward TANNER the one in 1841 enumerated as a Ship Agent ? > > A couple of interesting sites on St Giles > > http://www.stgilescamberwell.org.uk/ > > <http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/english-gardens/saint-giles-churchyard-gardens.html> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: Eng-Surrey-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SURREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/05/2010 01:10:24