Hi again again I have just received two death certificates and I find that I wonder about the place that they both died. One certificate lists the death as being in the "Little Almshouse, Croydon". Later, her daughter died in the "Almshouse, Croydon". As I understand it, an almshouse was different from the work house and were there to help the poor. But, the first death was for the same Ann Dalton that I earlier posted a question about and mentioned parts of her husbands will in which she was left an interest in several houses and the grocery store. Unless something very unfortunate happened to that wealth was there another reason that she (and her daughter later) were in the almshouse? Could it have been also something along the line of a nursing home where one could live out their last few days? Bill in sunny Gig Harbor

Hi Denise You need to consider the possiblity that the names people used were not necessarily the first names registered at birth, or that no name had been decided upon and the child was simply registered as "male" or "female. Freebmd has for example:- Births March 1858 May Robert Herbert Thanet 2a 632 No other MAY births with Herbert as part of the name, were found in 1858 or March 1859 (which would include some births from late 1858). There were two MAY "male" births registered in 1858 in Devon & Cornwall. There were 11 Sarah MAY births registered in 1859/Mar 1860 including among others:- Births June 1859 May Sarah St. George S. 1d 114 (Southwark was then in Surrey) May Sarah Ann Farnham 2a 66 MAY Female Guildford 2a 48 Births Dec 1859 MAY Sarah Alice Newington 1d 195 There were 21 MAY births where the name Jane was used in 1863/Mar 64 including:- Births March 1863 MAY Marianne Jane Guildford 2a 45 MAY Mary Jane Wokingham 2c 378 Births June 1863 MAY Sarah Jane Reigate 2a 138 Births Sept 1863 MAY Clarissa Eliza Jane Newington 1d 235 MAY Emily Jane Windsor 2c 378 Births Dec 1863 MAY Jane Henley 3a 500 MAY Jane Camberwell 1d 520 1865/Mar 66 has 7 MAY births where Amelia was used including:- Births March 1865 MAY Amelia St. Giles 1b 462 MAY Amelia Farnham 2a 81 MAY Emily Amelia Elham 2a 856 MAY Female Reading 2c 365 Births Dec 1865 MAY Female Henley 3a 523 (NB These entries have been typed by me so please check against Freebmd before relying on the details. Typos a distinct possibliity!) If you would like the complete list of all the MAY entries extracted from Freebmd, please let me know. This can be sent off list. Unfortunately it is always possible that the births were not registered, or that the registrations got lost in translation between the local register office and the GRO, but it would be surprising to find four in the same family affected in this way. Family stories can be unreliable too and recollections of dates and ages. You may need to look at a wider range of dates I hope this helps in some way. Best wishes David Bexhill, East Sussex, UK > ------------------------------ > >Original Message: > > From: G May <[email protected]> > > > I am searching for William & Eliza MAY with the following children > Jane,(1863) Sarah (1859) and Amelia (1865) and Herbert 1858. There may have > been more and we only have the names of the sisters from family stories > along with possible birth dates. > > Herbert indicated that he was born in Surrey in 1858 and his Australian > death certificate gives his parents as William MAY and Eliza EVANS. I have > not been able to find any Herbert MAY whose birth matches this date anywhere > in UK. I have also searched for Herbert EVANS birth in Surrey. > Also I have searched for this family in all censuses in Surrey from 1861 to > 1881 with no success. By 1889 Herbert was in Australia and is believed to > have migrated in 1883. > > I have found a William MAY & Eliza EVANS married in Redruth in 1858 and a > couple of the same names in 1881 Gloucester census but none of the > children's names match. > > > ------------------------------

Hi again I have just gotten a birth certificate and have a question about the place of birth. The information reads "5 Portland Mansions, Portland Road U. D." What does that U. D. mean. I have also found that same notation on another cert from Worchester County. Bill in now sunny Gig Harbor

I wonder if anyone on the list has had trouble with emails bouncing? It took me three goes to subscribe as the first two requests bounced and then I had another bounce when I tried to post a message to the list. Nothing else is bouncing - just the occasional email to the eng-surrey List :-| Cheers MaryB.

Thanks heaps Mo, I can certainly use these entries for my ONS as I have seen BRETTELL transcribed as BRETTEN and BRETHELL a number of times. Cheers MaryB. On 16/06/2011 6:27 PM, Maureen Burton wrote: > Hi Mary > I have just had another look at the cd and there is one I missed > Elizabeth BRITTLE > Baptised 2 April 1786 > Father Thomas > Mother Ann > > On another cd St Mary Lambeth Marriages August 1820 - May 1831 > there is a marriage between > Joanna BRETTEN spinster and Daniel KEEBLE bachelor > 26 Jun 1825 > Witnesses Jas. JONTON& Mary INSTON > > On yet another cd St Mary Lambeth Marriages April 1770 - January 1796 > there are these > 24 July 1770 > John BETHELL > Susanna BURN > Witnesses John WATSON& Andrew CUTLER > > 3 June 1792 > Martha BETHELL Widow > John DALRYMPLE Widower > Witnesses William COULES& James SINGLETON > > On St Mary Burial cd February 1777 - Dec 1819 > there is > Catherine BETHALL Abode Princes Street 63 years old buried 1 April 1817 > > That's about all the "near" matches I can find, so I hope they are of > interest. > > Good Luck > > Mo > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Mary Brettell<[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi Mo, >> >> Thanks for this information :-)... Just out of curiosity, I imagine you >> looked also for BRETTELL or BRITTLE on your CD? >> >> Cheers from sunny but a rather chilly Aus (chilly indoors that is) ... >> >> MaryB. >> >> >> On 15/06/2011 7:39 PM, Maureen Burton wrote: >>> Hi Mary >>> According to St Mary Baptisms cd 1746 - 1804 transcription produced by >> East >>> Surrey FHS, >>> Ann BRETTLE born: 7 November 1797 >>> Baptised: 5 January 1798 >>> Father: George BRETTLE >>> Mother: Ann >>> >>> This is the only BRETTLE Baptism on this cd. >>> >>> Hope this helps >>> >>> Regards >>> Mo >>> *************************************** >>> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >>> superfluous old messages in replies. >>> >>> List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> *************************************** >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** >> superfluous old messages in replies. >> >> List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Hi Mo, Thanks for this information :-)... Just out of curiosity, I imagine you looked also for BRETTELL or BRITTLE on your CD? Cheers from sunny but a rather chilly Aus (chilly indoors that is) ... MaryB. On 15/06/2011 7:39 PM, Maureen Burton wrote: > Hi Mary > According to St Mary Baptisms cd 1746 - 1804 transcription produced by East > Surrey FHS, > Ann BRETTLE born: 7 November 1797 > Baptised: 5 January 1798 > Father: George BRETTLE > Mother: Ann > > This is the only BRETTLE Baptism on this cd. > > Hope this helps > > Regards > Mo > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Nivard, John and Judy. Yes, Nivard, I had realised that I had only the Pallots Index, but didn't know it was on separate cards. We are back to 1801 for the marriage. I had wondered at the big gap between the issuing of the licence and the marriage: Judy you had it as 1802 - a mistranscription? Now it's only a few days - very quick, for whatever reason. Nivard and John, the "John Bilsher" witness, is probably John Oldis Boucher, Mary's father ( I found her baptism at St. Clement Danes, Westminster) Numerous spellings occur of both Oldis and Boucher. There were at least two families of Pavey's in Kingston, I believe, just to muddy the waters, and, rather unusual, another Lazarus lurking in the wings. I once found a record of his death, but nothing else. Thank you, Nivard, for getting me back on track; you are very good at that, I've noticed. Daphne

My husband's family came from England, and my research has found a possible connection to a Roger C. P. Wigfield who might have been in Sutton, Surrey in 1982. I believe he was b. 1945 in Darlington, Durham. If anyone could suggest a source for me search in an effort to locate him, I would sincerely appreciate it. Thank you. Mary Lu Keef

There is a birth registration for a Herbert Evans in Surrey in 1858:- Evans Herbert Edward Camberwell 1d 496 Ann From: G May <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:10 AM Subject: [SRY] MAY brick wall I am searching for William & Eliza MAY with the following children Jane,(1863) Sarah (1859) and Amelia (1865) and Herbert 1858. There may have been more and we only have the names of the sisters from family stories along with possible birth dates. Herbert indicated that he was born in Surrey in 1858 and his Australian death certificate gives his parents as William MAY and Eliza EVANS. I have not been able to find any Herbert MAY whose birth matches this date anywhere in UK. I have also searched for Herbert EVANS birth in Surrey. Also I have searched for this family in all censuses in Surrey from 1861 to 1881 with no success. By 1889 Herbert was in Australia and is believed to have migrated in 1883. I have found a William MAY & Eliza EVANS married in Redruth in 1858 and a couple of the same names in 1881 Gloucester census but none of the children's names match. Any ideas on what to try next would be welcome. Regards Denise Qld Australia

Bob By co-incidence, since sending this (below) the British Postal Museum and Archive have announced their new website which might hold particular of interest at: http://www.postalheritage.org.uk/page/telecommunications Ann From: "Ann Sargeant" <[email protected]> > From: "Bob Brock (general mail)" <[email protected]> >> All this talk of the telephone directories has reminded me of a loose end >> in >> my own family tree. I know my grandmother, Marjorie Emily Bavridge (born >> 1898), worked as a trainee telephone operator at the Croydon exchange at >> the >> outbreak of WW1. Does anyone know if employee records are available, and >> if >> so where? > > Bob > > As you'll know, Telecommunications used to be under the umbrella of the > GPO > however, since privatisation, records are with the BT Archives. I don't > know whether this would include any employee records but an email there > might, in any event, be useful as their online catalogue shows they do > hold > quite a few records (44) relating to Croydon. > > Employees of the Post Office prior to privatisation were in some respects > classed as a category of civil servant but I'm not sure whether they > would > be included in any of the Civil Service Staff Directories. TNA will be > able to advise on this. > > Others may be able to offer more suggestions. > > Ann

Glad to be of help. I certainly know what you mean about variations of a name. My research has me looking for NICHOLL and THORNHILL. Try the variations of those and see how many there are:-)) Good luck anyway Mo On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Mary Brettell <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks heaps Mo, > > I can certainly use these entries for my ONS as I have seen BRETTELL > transcribed as BRETTEN and BRETHELL a number of times. > > Cheers > > MaryB. > > On 16/06/2011 6:27 PM, Maureen Burton wrote: > > Hi Mary > > I have just had another look at the cd and there is one I missed > > Elizabeth BRITTLE > > Baptised 2 April 1786 > > Father Thomas > > Mother Ann > > > > On another cd St Mary Lambeth Marriages August 1820 - May 1831 > > there is a marriage between > > Joanna BRETTEN spinster and Daniel KEEBLE bachelor > > 26 Jun 1825 > > Witnesses Jas. JONTON& Mary INSTON > > > > On yet another cd St Mary Lambeth Marriages April 1770 - January 1796 > > there are these > > 24 July 1770 > > John BETHELL > > Susanna BURN > > Witnesses John WATSON& Andrew CUTLER > > > > 3 June 1792 > > Martha BETHELL Widow > > John DALRYMPLE Widower > > Witnesses William COULES& James SINGLETON > > > > On St Mary Burial cd February 1777 - Dec 1819 > > there is > > Catherine BETHALL Abode Princes Street 63 years old buried 1 April 1817 > > > > That's about all the "near" matches I can find, so I hope they are of > > interest. > > > > Good Luck > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Mary Brettell<[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Hi Mo, > >> > >> Thanks for this information :-)... Just out of curiosity, I imagine you > >> looked also for BRETTELL or BRITTLE on your CD? > >> > >> Cheers from sunny but a rather chilly Aus (chilly indoors that is) ... > >> > >> MaryB. > >> > >> > >> On 15/06/2011 7:39 PM, Maureen Burton wrote: > >>> Hi Mary > >>> According to St Mary Baptisms cd 1746 - 1804 transcription produced by > >> East > >>> Surrey FHS, > >>> Ann BRETTLE born: 7 November 1797 > >>> Baptised: 5 January 1798 > >>> Father: George BRETTLE > >>> Mother: Ann > >>> > >>> This is the only BRETTLE Baptism on this cd. > >>> > >>> Hope this helps > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Mo > >>> *************************************** > >>> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > >>> superfluous old messages in replies. > >>> > >>> List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> *************************************** > >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > >> superfluous old messages in replies. > >> > >> List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Hi Mary Its not just you or just the Surrey list, its happening intermittently on all lists Its rootswebs spam filters, they can't seem to get the balance right Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I wonder if anyone on the list has had trouble with emails bouncing? > > It took me three goes to subscribe as the first two requests bounced and > then I had another bounce when I tried to post a message to the list. > Nothing else is bouncing - just the occasional email to the eng-surrey > List :-| > > Cheers > > MaryB.

Hi Mary I have just had another look at the cd and there is one I missed Elizabeth BRITTLE Baptised 2 April 1786 Father Thomas Mother Ann On another cd St Mary Lambeth Marriages August 1820 - May 1831 there is a marriage between Joanna BRETTEN spinster and Daniel KEEBLE bachelor 26 Jun 1825 Witnesses Jas. JONTON & Mary INSTON On yet another cd St Mary Lambeth Marriages April 1770 - January 1796 there are these 24 July 1770 John BETHELL Susanna BURN Witnesses John WATSON & Andrew CUTLER 3 June 1792 Martha BETHELL Widow John DALRYMPLE Widower Witnesses William COULES & James SINGLETON On St Mary Burial cd February 1777 - Dec 1819 there is Catherine BETHALL Abode Princes Street 63 years old buried 1 April 1817 That's about all the "near" matches I can find, so I hope they are of interest. Good Luck Mo On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Mary Brettell <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Mo, > > Thanks for this information :-)... Just out of curiosity, I imagine you > looked also for BRETTELL or BRITTLE on your CD? > > Cheers from sunny but a rather chilly Aus (chilly indoors that is) ... > > MaryB. > > > On 15/06/2011 7:39 PM, Maureen Burton wrote: > > Hi Mary > > According to St Mary Baptisms cd 1746 - 1804 transcription produced by > East > > Surrey FHS, > > Ann BRETTLE born: 7 November 1797 > > Baptised: 5 January 1798 > > Father: George BRETTLE > > Mother: Ann > > > > This is the only BRETTLE Baptism on this cd. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Regards > > Mo > > *************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Yes Mary I did look for all variations of the name. The only other name near yours was BRETT. I will go through and have another look, but am certain that Ann was the only one to show. I will let you know later. Mo On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Mary Brettell <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Mo, > > Thanks for this information :-)... Just out of curiosity, I imagine you > looked also for BRETTELL or BRITTLE on your CD? > > Cheers from sunny but a rather chilly Aus (chilly indoors that is) ... > > MaryB. > > > On 15/06/2011 7:39 PM, Maureen Burton wrote: > > Hi Mary > > According to St Mary Baptisms cd 1746 - 1804 transcription produced by > East > > Surrey FHS, > > Ann BRETTLE born: 7 November 1797 > > Baptised: 5 January 1798 > > Father: George BRETTLE > > Mother: Ann > > > > This is the only BRETTLE Baptism on this cd. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Regards > > Mo > > *************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Good morning listers My name is Stephen Westley and I am searching for information on my Great, Great Grandparents. I believe that they may have been transient workers, as I am finding it very hard to fill in the gaps in their lives. Thomas Westley & Phoebe Davis were married on the 23 January 1821 at St Leonards, Shoreditch, London, Middlesex. Originally, I thought that they were "natives" of London, but after considerable searching and professional research, I can still find no sign of them until 20 February 1833 when their so called youngest son William was baptised at St Marys, Islington. He was 1 month old when baptised and may have been born in another county, although his parent's address was listed as Payne Street. At the age of 16, William migrated to New Zealand, so I have quite a lot of information on his life, however Thomas and Phoebe once again managed to disappear. Maybe a family from this list has a Thomas and Phoebe Westley that were not married in the area but who have children born in the parish or elsewhere. I have decided to spread my search out from London by posting on a number of lists beginning with Surrey, Kent and Hertfordshire I look forward to hearing from a cousin!!! Cheers Steve Westley Grafton NSW

Hi Fionnghal and all, A friend of mine has this book and it does not help ... it states his origins are unknown and deals mainly with the industry and his business life. A 2nd book has jut been launched (in Belper on Friday last, 2 days after I had visited there) and I don't yet know if it will throw any more light on the parentage of George (my friend is going to buy a copy of the book). George really is a bit of an enigma. If I could find his parents perhaps I could work backwards from there to see how he fits in the big ONS picture. ... and thanks heaps for all of those newspaper/journal entries - George's first child, Mary, who married Rev Charles Jollands, was christened at Arnold, Nottingham in 1813 and now I know what happened to his daughter Emma who was indeed christened 1815 at St Mary's Lambeth. ... and son George Henry was indeed christened at St Mary Lambeth 1819 Ann. He had another two sons, Edward (who according to the 1861 census was 2 years older than George Henry) and Albert (who in 1851 was 3 years younger than George Henry). They are mentioned in George snr's will but I have not been able to find their birth records. If George was from the 'moneyed' side of the family they were always literate and spelled their name BRETTELL and so I just can't imagine George BRETTLE having his name mis-spelt in his business dealings if he was from that side of the family. Brettle is the 'Black Country' pronunciation of the surname. George Brettell married a Mary and the most likely marriage I have found was between George BRITTLE & Mary HORTON at Birmingham in 1809. George Brettell was certainly 'worth' a lot of money when he died - I have a copy of his will and he was talking of amounts in tens of thousands going here and there - but I'd like to know whether he was well off before getting into the business or if he made his fortune solely through the business. I know he went into the business when it was not doing so well with Mr Ward as sole owner. Cheers MaryB Brisbane, Aus On 15/06/2011 9:56 PM, Fionnghal wrote: > Wow! what a find. I'd call that 'winning a watch' as we say! > > :-) > > Fionnghal > >> From: Chris Townsend<[email protected]> >> Hello Mary, >> >> In family history research, a question worth asking >> yourself is "Has it been >> done before?" To this end, I find there's a recent >> book "Brettles of Belper". See >> >> http://www.belpernews.co.uk/news/local/book_to_tell_story_of_historic_brettles_1_3390120 >> >> "Set over more than 200 pages, 'Brettles of Belper' will >> cover the history> of the hosiery manufacturer from its >> very beginning to the present day" etc............ > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There are no English records for any of the names children within a 20 year scan and certainly no censuses and May doesn't seem a name that would have been changed. I did find a Herbert born in Horley, Surrey 1866 at Ardingly school in Sussex in 1881 but couldn't find him in 1871 and I think I am clutching at straws but maybe the Mays were in Australia much earlier and then came back for a short while between censuses? I couldn't find any details of immigration of anything else in Australia on ancestry. As you live in Australia I think your best best bet is to find the immigration - I am presuming the whole family moved - if so you should at least get the ages and occupation. Paul ________________________________ From: G May <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:10 AM Subject: [SRY] MAY brick wall I am searching for  William & Eliza MAY with the following children Jane,(1863) Sarah (1859) and Amelia (1865) and Herbert 1858. There may have been more and we only have the names of the sisters from family stories along with possible birth dates. Herbert indicated that he was born in Surrey in 1858 and his Australian death certificate gives his parents as William MAY and Eliza EVANS.  I have not been able to find any Herbert MAY whose birth matches this date anywhere in UK.  I have also searched for Herbert EVANS birth in Surrey. Also I have searched for this family in all censuses in Surrey from 1861 to 1881 with no success.  By 1889 Herbert was in Australia and is believed to have migrated in 1883. I have found a William MAY & Eliza EVANS married in Redruth in 1858 and a couple of the same names in 1881 Gloucester census but none of the children's names match. Any ideas on what to try next would be welcome. Regards Denise Qld Australia *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  [email protected]   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From Whitehall Evening Post or London Intelligencer ( London, England ), January 14, 1749 - January 17, 1749; Issue 458. Last Night was brought under a strong Guard, from Godalming in Surrey, one John WILLIS , an Outlawed Smuggler, and committed to the New Jail, Southwark.

St Matthews Church, where the inscription below is located, seems to have opened in 1824 so I need to know what parishes would have been around in the area in 1778 and how to get hold of them. Cheers Mary B Brisbane. Aust. On 15/06/2011 5:08 PM, Mary Brettell wrote: > Hi All, > > I have just re-joined this list. I am doing a one name study on > BRETTELL/BRETTLE and variants. > > At present I am searching for information on George Brettle who owned a > hosiery factory (England's largest at one time) in Belper. > > I have the following information: > > Some very handsome monuments and inscribed tablets are affixed against > the walls of St. Matthew's Church at Brixton. At the east end, the most > remarkable are those commemorative of George Brettle, Esq., of Raleigh > Lodge, Brixton-hill (born 1st Jan. 1778, died 18th Oct. 1835)... > This was obtained from > http://www.archive.org/stream/historyandantiq00tansgoog/historyandantiq00tansgoog_djvu.txt > > I am trying to discover who were the parents of George Brettle of > Raleigh Lodge Brixton Hill born 1st January 1778. > > Regards and thanks > > MaryB. > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: E[email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am searching for William & Eliza MAY with the following children Jane,(1863) Sarah (1859) and Amelia (1865) and Herbert 1858. There may have been more and we only have the names of the sisters from family stories along with possible birth dates. Herbert indicated that he was born in Surrey in 1858 and his Australian death certificate gives his parents as William MAY and Eliza EVANS. I have not been able to find any Herbert MAY whose birth matches this date anywhere in UK. I have also searched for Herbert EVANS birth in Surrey. Also I have searched for this family in all censuses in Surrey from 1861 to 1881 with no success. By 1889 Herbert was in Australia and is believed to have migrated in 1883. I have found a William MAY & Eliza EVANS married in Redruth in 1858 and a couple of the same names in 1881 Gloucester census but none of the children's names match. Any ideas on what to try next would be welcome. Regards Denise Qld Australia