I am hoping someone may be able to assist me. My husband remembers, as a child, visiting his great uncle who was the licensee of a pub in Croydon. This would have been around 1937-1938. He feels pretty sure it was The George Pub on the High Street. I have checked the internet and there is a George Pub on the corner of High Street & George Street, Croydon. His great uncle was Benjamin Revell and my husband can remember his great uncle had a business card with the words "Revell the devil" printed on it with a devil character on the card. Would someone out there have any information on The George Pub and who the licensees would have been going back to the late 1930s. Living in Australia, it is very difficult to source this type of information. Any assistance with this research would be greatly appreciated. Desley Revell Brisbane, Australia

Hi Desley You're quite right, The George seems to have been on the corner of George St/High Street where the NatWest bank now stands. However, I have a 1927 Street Directory for Croydon and your Benjamin G Revell was landlord of the George IV public house at 94 George Street. He was still there in 1938 (entry in telephone directory). Long gone, I'm afraid but if you Google Streetview it, walking up George Street from High Street/North End, you cross the junction with Wellesley Rd/Park Lane and it would have been on the right - before you get to East Croydon Station on the left. Somewhere where the AIG building/Croydon College is now, I would think - near the statue of the man on a horse. It was next door to the Fairfield Mission Hall. I've got quite a lot of books with photos of old Croydon - I'll see what I can find. Alison ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desley Revell" <[email protected]> To: "Surrey Digest" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: [SRY] Licensee of The George Pub, Croydon, Surrey >I am hoping someone may be able to assist me. > > > > My husband remembers, as a child, visiting his great uncle who was the > licensee of a pub in Croydon. This would have been around 1937-1938. > > > > He feels pretty sure it was The George Pub on the High Street. I have > checked the internet and there is a George Pub on the corner of High > Street > & George Street, Croydon. > > > > His great uncle was Benjamin Revell and my husband can remember his great > uncle had a business card with the words "Revell the devil" printed on it > with a devil character on the card. > > > > Would someone out there have any information on The George Pub and who the > licensees would have been going back to the late 1930s. > > > > Living in Australia, it is very difficult to source this type of > information. > > > > Any assistance with this research would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Desley Revell > > Brisbane, Australia > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3722 - Release Date: 06/23/11 >

To one and all Maureen's query has been at the back of my mind. I wondered if Surrey or any other UK F.H.Society recorded talks of general interest for the use of members or small groups. I belong to a small group that meets at our local Community Centre, and we have limited funds, which makes it difficult to hire a speaker more than once in a while. I'd welcome your observations, off-list. Daphne Harvey (in Bournemouth)

Hi Paul As I posted previously The 1921 census is intact and will be released 100 years after it was taken so a little while to wait yet The 1931 census books & schedules were completely destroyed in a fire in 1942 (not enemy action) So no 1931 of any sort, likewise no 1941 as it was not taken Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Is that a fact that the 1921 and 1931 censuses were partially or wholly destroyed?

Hi Colin, Your graves and burial postings lately have been great. Thanks But Now's the time to fess up.....where are you hiding mine??? Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Hi here is another batch of grave names with photo's if needed. I will > post on other sites like findagrave soon. > > Aaron Holland 5th May 1934 > Ada Lucy Elliot 24th Jul 1916 > Alfred Robinson 18th Mar 1925

Thanks Nivard, at least I will be able to see my parents' census. Paul --- On Thu, 6/23/11, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SRY] Records for households 1914-1920 To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 9:25 AM Hi Paul As I posted previously The 1921 census is intact and will be released 100 years after it was taken so a little while to wait yet The 1931 census books & schedules were completely destroyed in a fire in 1942 (not enemy action) So no 1931 of any sort, likewise no 1941 as it was not taken Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Is that a fact that the 1921 and 1931 censuses were partially or wholly destroyed? *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  [email protected]   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I still think it strange that we have to wait 100 years. I now live in the States, in California, where you would think they would be paranoid about releasing personal information yet here we can see the censuses after 70 years so we already have the 1930 on line at ancestry. Wouldn't it be wonderful to see our census with our name on it with our family? Oh well I'll wait for the year 2051 same as Lord - I might be alive at 105 but I don't know if I will be kicking. Is that a fact that the 1921 and 1931 censuses were partially or wholly destroyed? --- On Mon, 6/20/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected]m <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SRY] Records for households 1914-1920 To: [email protected] Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 10:16 AM Hi there, You could try electoral rolls, local directories and telephone directories  to begin with. Don't hold your breath waiting for the 1921 and 1931 census as WW11 put  paid to most of those records, there wasn't one in 1941 as the country was  otherwise engaged so we now have to wait for the 1951 census which probably  won't be released until 2051. I won't be alive by then so maybe SKS will dig me  up when it is released. lol Regards Lord Martyn *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  [email protected]   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All Not strictly a Surrey question but here goes. Does anyone belong to a UK Family History society that records or videos the talks given at meetings? If so, please could you let me know, Off List, who they are. Thanks very much. Maureen -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Hi here is another batch of grave names with photo's if needed. I will post on other sites like findagrave soon. Aaron Holland 5th May 1934 Ada Lucy Elliot 24th Jul 1916 Alfred Robinson 18th Mar 1925 Ann Maria Cooper 9th Jul 1915 Annie Elizabeth Taylor 20th Oct 1916 Arthur Edward Doran 5th May 1920 Arthur Joseph Smee 28th Oct 1918 Benjamine Smith 15th April 1925 Caroline Walter 23rd Dec 1935 Collis Thomas Lambert 21st Jan 1927 Edgar Murray Cheshire 6th Mar 1918 CWGC Edward A. V. Sturton 12th May 1924 Edward Davey Smith 28th Jan 1919 Edward Jack Reid 9th Feb 1937 Elizabeth Ann Harvey 27th Mar 1935 Elizabeth Pooles 25th May 1940 Ellen Louisa Green 17th Aug 1936 Elsie Hutchins 14th Apr 1930 Elsie Maud Bridger 16th Apr 1942 Emily Rule 26th Oct 1906 Ethel Victoria Beer 8th Jan 1920 Ethel Wooding 1st Jul 1936 Frederick George Bisley 1900 - 1978 George Bennett 29th Dec 1938 George Mayer 20th Oct 1934 George Norton Banks Aug 1907 Harriet Ellen Reeve 3rd Feb 1918 Jeannie Patterson 26th Apr 1924 Leonard John Peacod 19th Feb 1929 Louisa Batchelor 20th Dec 1918 Margaret Esther Rogers Oct 1931 Martha Williams 16th Apr 1965 Mary Ann Burnett 12th Sep 1921 Mary Awcock 13th Feb 1902 May ? 16th May 1901 Nettie Stanistreet 10th Apr 1928 Percy F Bunyard 28th July 1937 Philip William Redford 19th Oct 1942 Robert Laurence Work 14th Aug 1932 Sarah Ann Chatwick 2nd Oct 1926 Stephen Grimes 17th Jan 1929 Sydney Chapman 4th Oct 1935 Thomas Lham 13th May 1915 Walter Arthur Walker 193? Colin P.S. if anyone wants photo's I can email them.

Thanks Ann. Another clue to investigate. Denise On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Ann Sargeant <[email protected]>wrote: > There is a birth registration for a Herbert Evans in Surrey in > 1858:- > > Evans Herbert Edward Camberwell 1d 496 > > Ann > > > > >

Hi Paul I have seen Herbert May from Horley but I am quite confident that it is not our fellow. Our understanding is that only Herbert migrated to Australia and I have heard that he never made contact with his family in England after he came out here. We'll just keep on searching and one day something may turn up that ties all our ideas together. Thanks for your reply. Denise

Hi Peg Thanks for the complimentary comments. I will pass them on to our chairman/woman? to see if something can be done about this. I have mentioned the possibility of video's or recordings, at a previous meeting, but no joy so far. Watch this space!!! Regards and thanks again Maureen On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Peggy Oberbeck <[email protected]>wrote: > What a wonderful list of lectures! Wish I could hop a plan to be there. By > any chance, are there notes or videos available for the lectures? Maybe via > a membership? > > Thanks, > Peg > Wisconsin, USA > > Researching Spice and Dobson in Croydon > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Maureen Burton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Non members are welcome to attend the any or all of the following > > meetings:- > > > > Lingfield Group - Meetings are held on 4th Wednesday of each month, > except > > August & December at 230pm. Doors open at 2pm > > Lingfield & Dormansland Community Centre, High Street, Lingfield RH7 6AB. > > Google maps will give directions. > > > > June 22nd - London Maps - Alan Rushton > > > > July 27th - Land Tax Assessments - Eric Probert > > > > September - To be advised > > > > October 26th - Livery Companies - Peter Lusty > > > > November 23rd - Stuart London - Ian Bevan > > > > Maureen Burton > > > > > > -- > > Maureen Burton > > Member ESFHS > > *************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

It is very nice of you to post your list of graves that are in danger of being swallowed up by vegetation at Mitcham Road Cemetery and generous of you to offer to provide further info and photographs of graves. However,you may also wish to consider posting your list on Find A Grave _http://www.findagrave.com/_ (http://www.findagrave.com/) where you may be able assist many more people who may not be subscribed to the Surrey Lists. Find A Grave already has details of 368 graves at Mitcham Road Cemetery (aka.Croydon Cemetery and Crematorium) but a random search of around ten of your names suggests that none of your names are listed so far. Find A Grave is a free to use site and maintains itself with limited advertising and donations. Anyone searching for the resting place of their relatives in the Mitcham area would greatly welcome your additional graves - particuarly as it would appear that they may soon be hidden from view. Best wishes, David

What a wonderful list of lectures! Wish I could hop a plan to be there. By any chance, are there notes or videos available for the lectures? Maybe via a membership? Thanks, Peg Wisconsin, USA Researching Spice and Dobson in Croydon On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Maureen Burton <[email protected]> wrote: > Non members are welcome to attend the any or all of the following > meetings:- > > Lingfield Group - Meetings are held on 4th Wednesday of each month, except > August & December at 230pm. Doors open at 2pm > Lingfield & Dormansland Community Centre, High Street, Lingfield RH7 6AB. > Google maps will give directions. > > June 22nd - London Maps - Alan Rushton > > July 27th - Land Tax Assessments - Eric Probert > > September - To be advised > > October 26th - Livery Companies - Peter Lusty > > November 23rd - Stuart London - Ian Bevan > > Maureen Burton > > > -- > Maureen Burton > Member ESFHS > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Non members are welcome to attend the any or all of the following meetings:- Sutton Group Meetings on 1st Thursday of each month at 8.00pm. Doors open 7.30pm. St. Nicholas Church Hall, Robin Hood Lane, Sutton, SM1 2RG Google street view - the entrance to hall is on LHS by the white railings Gibson Road car park is on the RHS St. Nicholas website July 7 - Jeremy Harte - Nonsuch Jeremy is the Curator of the Bourne Hall Museum, Ewell. Aug 4 - Chris Pocock - My Ancestors Abroad - Looking at Emigration Sept 1 - Stephen Humphrey - Medieval Churches in England Stephen worked for many years in Southwark Local History Library and gives talks and guided tours about the history of the London Borough of Southwark. Over the years he has taken photographs of churches, cathedrals and abbeys all over England. Oct 6 - Ian Waller Victorian Shopping Ian is an author and family historian. Nov 3 TO BE CONFIRMED Dec 1 TO BE CONFIRMED Maureen Burton -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Hi all This was for Dorset list, but I thought it would be of interest to SRY & MDX as well as there are connections within both of these counties. "This is my first foray into Dorset, having been on other lists since 1993. At present I am attempting to track down some descendants of Bennett people from St. Anne Soho 1700's. I appear to have done so within the past couple of days. My g.grandfather, Frederick Bennett emigrated to Australia c.1852 and during the 1990's I found his parents and siblings at Soho, Westminster on the 1841 census etc., found marriages for most of them from original parish registers, children and grand-children. Frederick's sister Emily proved difficult. She had married a George Wiltshire, carpenter/painter at St. Anne's in 1865 and by 1872 they had four children - James 1865, George William A 1868, Frederick Benjamin 1869 and Emily Ellen Eliza (named after her Bennett aunts) 1872 - all born Marylebone. Sadly George Wiltshire had died prior to the 1881 census and I was stuck with Emily and her children (surname changed to Willsher) living at 5 Saville Row, Marylebone, not found in 1891,1901 or 1911. For about 15 years, nothing found until now. Almost by accident, attempting to correct a FindMyPast census page, I found that the surname had been changed again, to Willshen. And what happened next was what all genealogists wish for -- virtually only two families by that surname in the whole of England. 1891 found the family in Kingston upon Thames and to cut a long story short, George William A Willshen had married Alice Hannah MERCER 1893, then six children - one in particular William Leslie R Willshen married Alice M Hill 1930, Bournemouth, two known children, boy and girl both born Bournemouth district, (May not be able to mention them as they are probably still living!). Again, Edith Ada Willshen b. 1894 had married Frederick A.J. SARGENT, Kingston 1920, two male children born 1922 and 1920, Christchurch, the first child marrying a lass named DRAYTON 1943, Bournemouth. Once again, Hettie Willshen b. 1902 appears to have married (as far as can be gathered) a gent surname of WRIGHT 1928 Bournemouth and two 'known' children from that marriage, a girl 1930 Bournemouth and a boy 1934 Bournemouth. As this early information is only gleaned through FindMyPast and FreeBMD some of it is open for questioning. I have not been able to find a probable marriage for James or for Frederick Benjamin Willshen, though there is a death of a Frederick Benjamin 1908, age 39, which fits perfectly, and as he was 32 and single in the 1901 census, seems not to have married. Another surname that is connected to the Willshens is HOUSTON, so if any of this rings bells with anyone on this list, please email." Cheers Graham Melbourne Australia

Non members are welcome to attend the any or all of the following meetings:- Southwark Group - Meetings are held on last Monday of alternate months at 12 noon. Doors open at 1130am Southwark Local History Library, 211 Borough High Street, SE1 1JA Entry is from Borough High Street via John Harvard Library Google maps will give directions. June 27th - Was your Anecstor really married? - Dr. Colin Chapman, author & lecturer on family history. Marriage Laws, records & customs. August 8th - Members Meeting Sharing problems, solutions found, helpful & interesting webites. October - To be Advised Maureen Burton -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Non members are welcome to attend the any or all of the following meetings:- Richmond Group - Meetings on 2nd Saturday of ALTERNATE months at 230pm Hall opens 2.00pm Vestry House, 21 Paradise Road, Richmond upon Thames, TW9 1SA Google maps will give directions. July 9th - English Occupational Records - Chris Watts September 10th - Manorial Records - Paul Blake November 12th - Turning your tree into a tale - writing up your family history - Kathy Chater Maureen Burton -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Thank you all for your suggestions. Being in N.Z. dosnt help with all the going too places, I will try to see what I can find from here. From a cold cloudy New Zealand.

Non members are welcome to attend the any or all of the following meetings:- Lingfield Group - Meetings are held on 4th Wednesday of each month, except August & December at 230pm. Doors open at 2pm Lingfield & Dormansland Community Centre, High Street, Lingfield RH7 6AB. Google maps will give directions. June 22nd - London Maps - Alan Rushton July 27th - Land Tax Assessments - Eric Probert September - To be advised October 26th - Livery Companies - Peter Lusty November 23rd - Stuart London - Ian Bevan Maureen Burton -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS